The resurrection of the 6th form common room for those inbetweeners who are TTC/PG after mc and are too long in the tooth to fit anywhere else

As suspected FF has removed crosshairs! Pleased I didn't get my hopes up!

< waves at cariboumoo > How are you? Not will of steel- just no hope! Pretty sure FF is wrong! I'm thinking annovulatory

Just thinking A&R & Velvet weren't you both Smeggers? Where's your white coat & clipboard A&R We need stats!

Just a quickie to say a big hurrah and well done to Velvet and A&R, great to see double BFPs. izz, I got a BFN at 9 dpo before followed by a BFP 3 days later. Just sayin... Loola you've got a will of steel holding out for so long! I would wait a wee while if I were you mummy, honest I would!

YRMOTB at least your work is done now, no more pesky sex! Battery no wonder your doc was left scratching his head!!

Wiggle that's ludicrous. I was told by my GP 12 months before investigation.

wiggle I was told at least 18 months too although I thought that might be different when I passed the 35 barrier (in March). Apparently not.

Anyway the nhs here won't fund us for any testing (even basic progesterone despite my crappy cycles) because I already have two children ( but fair enough when resources are limited). DH also won't fund it for the exact same reason. So I'm afraid it's just down to Mother Nature here. And so far she's not playing ball

Wow fantastic news a&r & velvet So pleased for you!

wiggle can't believe they told you to wait 18months Do as the oracle says!

Izzy & battery Got my FX for you both!

yrm Whoop for crosshairs!

mummy Your pic is in a strange place, did you do the weight ticker instead of the charting ticker?

Still no POAS here! 16DPO, but feeling very irritable and spotty today so it can only be a matter of time for af!

Izzy Yes, could be. Did she have mad hair?! I had to stop myself from saying 'thank you very much for your expert medical advice' on the way out, sarcasm probably won't get me pregnant.. sigh.

Mummy Thanks for the info, as always! I have already bookmarked that link, v useful! Seemingly if I was in the US or Germany, I'd be probably be on meds for thyroid because the accepted levels there are more conservative than the UK. You are a great example of how to not settle for one opinion if you have a feeling that something's not quite right. It's totally out of character for me but I'm going to pester them until I get the answers I feel I need!

wiggle 18 months ????????? silly woman. I was told 6 and I am 38. I hate seeing locums - all good intentions and all that but it is rare you get a good one.

izzy I am not due AF till tuesday but have been having cramps so I am hoping it is a little mini- hen snuggling down but we will see. I know I shouldn't test early but got a BFP at 10dpo with my last pregnancy.

mummy I would lay money on it too that you don't last the day :) - will PM you later too when I am home.

Just been in to see my Dr - asked his advice about trying to shift OV as I tend to OV mid week and only see DP at weekends. Think I have left him very puzzled!

just a quick on for GetaWiggle

request a copy of your medical notes, in most cases they just charge a few pence for photocopies, but some buggers charge 10 or 15 quid. Start a folder with all your info and take it to every appointment.

Check your blood results for yourself here
www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female

and if any are borderline push to get the tests repeated.

That doctor sounds thoroughly useless, dont let it put you off getting the help you need. Glad you havent lost your sense of humour though, your posts do make me

wiggle sorry you didn't have any luck at the dr - I reckon you saw the same one I did a few months ago! .

battery I didn't realise we were cycle twins! I share your pain, but we are both being ridiculous in our impatience! (me, even more so since I have definite signs of af!)

So, when are you going to poas next?! Judging by my last cycle, af should be arriving tomorrow so I'm going to leave it till Sunday at least (if she's not here).

Woah! Multiple BFPs today! Congrats velvet aandr and squeaky*

Izzy and Battery It's not over yet. FX for some more good news this weekend.

Izzy I've never had brown goo before af until recently (probs last 3 cycles) Drives me crazy each month. I hope yours turns out to be the bean-snuggling variety though and not af .

Mummy Yes, 7dpo is early but you know that anyway. I bet you 10 wet haddock that you can't keep up the restraint til the end of the day! I know I wouldn't be able to! I got v early bfp with DD.

My appt with GP yesterday was an absolute frickin disaster slightly disappointing. I could've asked a total stranger in Starbucks and got a better response. It was a locum GP and she was pretty clueless about all things fertility related. She says my thyroid is within acceptable NHS limits (although she admitted she doesn't know much about thyroid and ttc/pg) She didn't even discuss other results (FSH, LH etc) she only seemed interested in progesterone which suggests I'm ovulating (thanks, but I knew that from temping)

She said that she would expect us to have been trying for at least 18 months (yes, that's one eight) before they'd investigate further. I'm 38 years old.

TBH I felt like an idiot in there. I'd love to know what she wrote on my notes as she certainly didn't have a clue what to say to me.

She also muttered something along the lines of "just try and relax, stress won't help etc' and 'miscarriages are v common' Again, the total stranger in Starbucks could've told me this much.

Roll on appt at fertility clinic. I just feel that, even for peace of mind, I want to see an expert. Dachs I have a feeling it may be your clinic I'm going to. Are you at same place as Pink?

Hooray for BFP's that really is lovely news.

I am just slinking in - am same as izzy - I POAS today at 10 DPO and mid morning too not FMU - and got a big BFN. Had a bit of a weep :( Serves me right for being so damn impatient. xx

Hi BB No, didnt test, decided to be restrained (7DO - riduculous right?) but now I am wishing I had because I want to be part of the action and will probably spend all day wondering about it! Wish I hadnt just seen a thread on conception where someone got a positive at 7DPO too...

YRMOTB Whoop! for crosshairs the piccies are not on your chart, but it shows up when I look at my friends list. Yours has got a sky scene, with two suns rising over the clouds and a plane flying past. Izzy's and loola 's have (different) flowers and mothergoose (is that you BB? I have forgotton already!) has a snail on it. Have I got pictures on mine now?

Izz Spotting for you must be pretty torturous then, if in the past its signified both things, so really that means it doesnt signify anything!! I never get spotting before AF, it just arrives very suddenly, its always a big shock, but at least the news is definite and there is no doubt. Go away Izzy's AF! Come on BFP!!

AandR still for you !!

Velvet brilliant news!!! Am so glad there is someone else with me at this end of the freaking out - keep looking at the read out and checking knickers

. Woo hoo for crosshairs! I'm 10dpo today - which is an achievement in itself - but feeling completely meh about it, partly because I was stoopid enough to poas today with no hope of a bfp and partly because I have distinctly more brown gunk (sorry tmi but no other word for it!) so af should be here tonight or tomorrow. The stupid thing is that I know this heralds the onset of af every month but because there were three times in my life when it heralded a bfp part of me can't help but getting hopes up every cycle. It's infuriating.

Anyway I'm going to go for a run then tonight I'll take my bfn down the pub and that should make things seem better

Keeping my fx for you (and mummya ) who will be coming up to test before you know it. Hope you're keeping hopeful x

I have cross lines! Yey. 3 dpo today. Closely following you mummya- you're 6 right?

BTW do I have tickers on my FF chart? God knows how that happened, does it look like izzy's?

How's it going izz?

ooh thanks for asking that BB I was a bit confused too but didnt want to say anything in case I was missing something obvious!

logged in as soon as I woke up to see how you are doing...

Velvet and AandRMum OMG!! Well done ladies!!! I am so happy for you!!!!

Velvet my own theory on the AF-due-bleed is that it means your lining is so huge and cushy that spare bits get shed when bean squishes around. All good things I think.

Izz still no AF then? When is it actually due? I shall leave one set of suspenders on just in case, if Velvet has brown stuff, then yours could be something similar?

at BlackKat hope you are OK, say hi to everyone on the other thread for me.

hi squeakytoy congratulations on your BFP

oooooohhhhhh velvet ! Yay!!!!!! I had loads of brown goo, don't worry - it seems to be a common theme in the Freak Out room, perfectly normal for beanie to be snugging down. :) :) :) :) :)

just passing by (hope this is ok) to offer non-alcholic fizz or similar to A&R and Velvet such brilliant news!

whoop whoop
BFP extravaganza!!!! Big congrats!!!

I am still refusing to get excited as I have convinced myself it is wrong.

When would be the best time to do another test? Is it better to wait a few hours or till tomorrow morning.

Thats if I havent got AF already by then... which I am still fully expecting to happen. (although all the cramps that I had last night seem to have gone today)..

This is only our second month of TTC so I really dont expect it to happen this quickly.