Feck off with your babydust - The hut of gl/doom, home of inadequate reproduction

Sorry pooch >hugs< . Go on as much as you like, we all have our days and need to vent x

My update: i got +opk on Tue so DTD Tuesday and yesterday so again we wait and see... (my opk says dtd two days following +opK as the LH hormone levels start to rise, which gives the +OPK, just before the egg is released)

Off to do 21 day blood test on Tuesday...

Ohhhh Ninja... Oldie sounds so bad doesnt it... I'm there too, fast approaching 36 >gulp

Thanks Ellan Ninja - it doeesn't matter how many times I tell myself 'I am not PG' during the 2WW there's still always that hope then inevitable feeling of despair when it doesn't happen. Ellan good advice re swimmers though DH tends to sort himself out daily!! DH is of the opinion that he needs to build up if SWI is on the cards but will make sure he doesn't build up for too many days! One of my friends came over in the week, she had a couple of MC's but now has 3 under 5's and laughed at me when I said I was on CD24 and desperate to do a pg test - she's clearly forgotten the stress involved.
G&T ready, bottle of vino just gone in fridge.

don't be too hard on yourself pooch, have some time off while you have af and get your head together for next month. It sucks, I know, but we'll get there one day x

I'm sorry Pooch, that's really crappy for you. You're not going on, you're disappointed and that's only natural. Have a good swear, we'll close our ears...
Apparantly if your man goes too long without, ahem, releasing the swimmers, it really affects the quality and takes a few goes to clear out the old ones, so if you ovulate early in the cycle maybe bear that in mind? I read something about in one of the zita west chronicles. I have the opposite problem, quite often don't ovulate until day 21 so prob exhaust DH's supply of swimmers too early :o

Have been taking BBT, POAS, eating healthily, exercising etc etc but red tide started today - had had a BFN this morning but still held out a glimmer of hope that it may be + ve. All my imaginary symptoms on hold for another month. The times I have conceived have all been when we've DTD before I've ov'd so think this is the way forward for me. Only DTD once this month (v poor effort - combination of stress at work and sickness) but was on +opk day. Like all these books say you need to know your body - ewcm etc but as our little eggs only last 24 hrs and his zillions last up to 7 days I'm going to have to up the ante and insist on SWI on day 10, 12, 14 as I've had 3x25 day cycles now and not wait until +opk when it might be too late. Sorry for going on, just really pissed off and want to get my head around the best way forward to try and lift my spirits.

if you only get a couple of days of ewcm it says to dtd on the 2nd day as the last day is your most fertile, if you have ewcm for a few days dtd every other day so that it works out that you dtd on the last day also i.e. 5 days of ewcm would mean days 1, 3 and 5.

Im charting temp now so while temp is low I must dtd every other day, once the temp goes up ive already ovulated but you could still dtd that morning as a bit of extra trying!

Im on cd5 now and have already started trying this cycle as last cycle was 25 days so probably ovulated earlier than expected so taking the every other day approach at least till temp goes up.

I read that thrush can affect things so im off to buy a pessary, amongst all these fertility tests I thought that was the least of my worries...

I take EPO- it's supposed to help with EWCM I think. Google the plan- there's lots of info out there. basically dtd every other day from after your period. When you get +opk do it that night and the following two, then miss a night, then do it again, then wait! Can't do any harm surely? The time before ovulation is more important than the time afterwards. My friend got pregnant from having sex 5 days before ovulation only!

what is the Egg Meets Sperm Plan?
I think one of my friends has this book so I may ask to borrow it.
we just try to dtd every other day at least from ewcm onwards! I'm considered an oldie in fertility stakes (I'm 36) so I only get a couple of days of ewcm. Although i definitely think I need to drink more water as a general health rule, I'm sure it would help!

That sounds interesting bossy, I hope I've got it right! Maybe I'll be looking at that book now! Want to sum it up for me? I get about 5 days of EWCM, I start testing with OPK after a couple of days of it. Usually after I get a +ve result, everything dries up not too long after, so I figure I ovulated prob the day after +ve OPK usually. We carry on dtd anyway just in case! We've been using the Egg Meets Sperm Plan to cover all bases. What would your book say on the matter?

The book is great, helping me to understand what is going on in preparation for the results from these tests. I have never charted before but always checked cm so know I get ewcm for a few days though it doesnt rule out that im not ovulating. It is worth a read to understand my own body better whether ttc or not, I m hoping to see a pattern between ewcm and temp. Will be glad to get the vaginal scan out of the way. In fact im glad to be getting a full MOT as ive been concerned for ages something wasnt right with me.

Oh and a key point of the book is that loads of people ttc for a year or more and think they are infertile but in fact they just arent doing it at the right time. I thought I was clued up on when my right time is but after reading the book I found im not! There are lots of examples of people who have been ttc for over a year and after a couple of months of using tips in the book they miraculously fall pregnant!

its already booked for the 18th ellangirl!

Go bossy, it's all happening! You have to join in now ninja, get your bloods done too. Clearly it's the thing to be doing this season.

good for you bossy how do you feel about it all?

update from me, had day 4 blood taken, booked in for day 20 as 21 is a saturday, last cycle was 25 days. Having a scan in a months time and off to fertility clinic the end of march to discuss all the results.

In the meantime 'taking charge of your fertility' book has arrived and wow what an impressive size! So at least I can be doing something in the meantime.

annie! how lovely to see you xxxx are you well? hows everyone else doing? i am avoiding mn at the mo, but shall try to keep popping into the hut.

Bisou was just thinking of having a big glass of G&T but am due to test Fri (which will become Thurs/Wed), am in an unbelievably bad mood and my boobs are hurting more than they ever have before so as I'm going to get a BFN should reach for the Gordons and drown my sorrows now. for BFN for gin.

Hey there gals!! Hope everyone is nicely numbed up on gin!

Hi annie!

I'm on the up of the TTC rollar coaster. SWI big time tonight as i got a smiley face on my OPK this morning. This rollar coaster is getting pretty crazy, so if there is no BFP this month it's gonna be one almighty downer!!

ellan it was £25 for initial consultation and £35 for acupunc but was in there for over 2 hrs, he said next session would be @90 mins (at £35) so not bad. I try and equate the cost with what I'm saving on not boozing 2 weeks out of every 4! Even my mum who is the most cynical, anti-alternative medicine person in the world said she thought acupunc might have something in it...

How much does it cost for your acupuncture pooch? If you get a bfp on Friday I'll be down at the acupuncturists pronto!

ninja haven't tried the nuts/berries combo yet, if I did I think might turn into a squirrel and start running up trees.

ellan I had acupuncture with the only pregnancy I've had that's been successful so am a bit biased. But as am now part-time and skint paying nursery fees can't really afford it but having had 2 mc's ttc#2 so thought 'what the fuck'. Have only seen him once but it felt great!! The stuff he said about bbt, energy flows etc made more sense than anything my GP or MC Consultant have advised me. Have next session on Fri, same day I will be testing.
I'm in double figures this month with all my imaginary symptoms, have to keep slapping myself and repeating mantra 'you are not PG you stupid cow'. Maybe a bit harsh but get annoyed with myself obsessing about it! Have G,T,ice,lemon all ready for Fri night followed by bottle of chablis...

hello annie how lovely to see you!
how is your not so little bundle?
is dd1 all grown up now?
our dd is very grown up
glad you worked out who i am had to do the whole name change thing as i accidently put my wrong email address in and emailed all my mn details to some random unknown. as you know, i tell me deepest darkest fertility secrets on here that i generally don't even tell my best friends, so had to namechange
it really is good to see you. i have often wondered how you were and what you're about these days.
don't stay away so long next time, my friend (although, i do hope you don't have to come back here for any other reason than to say hi).