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TTC while breastfeeding - Part 2

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silkenladder · 16/12/2010 19:22

This is the place to come to share the frustrations of ttc while still nursing.

Many of us are sleep-deprived, some of us don't even know if we're ovulating and none of us know whether taking agnus castus is a good idea or not. We all just want to do the best by the children we already have, but would really like to be pregnant again. Quickly.

Part 1 had plenty of graduates . Here's hoping Part 2 will be equally successful and supportive!

OP posts:
thegauntlet · 23/12/2010 20:39

thanks for the encouragement. Sadly I can't quite sleep during the day when she does ( not much anyhoo) as I am back at work and have been for 3 weeks and am a dentist so it could be a bit dangerous mid drilling Grin!!

I have been feeling a little desperate about night feeds this week ( especially as I have worked 4 days and feel beyond exhausted) thanks for the advice about shortening feeds.... I worry that shortening feeds may lead to even shorter intevals- but it is worth a try right?! ( she doesn't feed very long anyway and it has got more since starting work as she is wanting to reconnect I think )

On a plus note.. my skin is still appalling and I had period type pains today... hummm

pookamoo · 22/12/2010 22:44

Thanks everyone.
We just shortened the night feeds, queenfee a little at a time. Instead of feeding until DD dropped off by herself, I took the initiative and stopped the feed when she started to nod, replacing with a cuddle until she had settled, then popping her in her cot.

The feeds just got shorter and shorter, til one day DH was able to go and just give her the cuddle without the feed.

We started to leave a beaker of milk handy for her in the night, too, if that's an option you could consider!

QueenFee · 22/12/2010 21:37

pookamoo thanks for adding me to the list and congratulations on the bfp!
I'm still sitting on my hands trying not to test. Admittedly in my heart of hearts I know i'm not so would just be a waste.
I looked into angus cactus and decided it wasnt for me I prefer to just let things take their course. However, I do believe it has worked for quite a few.
Anyone got any tips for gentle night weaning?

silkenladder · 22/12/2010 21:19

Congratulations pookamoo Grin Hopefully the first graduate on the new thread. Am crossing everything for you.

Glad to hear that the scan brought good news, LadyGG Hope you can enjoy Christmas, even if you are still feeling rough.

Manda I had been googling agnus castus just before reading your last reply. It sounds like it corrects a high oestrogen/low progesterone imbalance, which I don't think would be right for me, since I think the reason I'm not ovulating yet is that I'm not producing enough oestrogen. It is supposed to reduce prolactin levels as well though, so possibly of interest to others on here.

Lovely to see so many new posters on here . I shall add myself to the stats list:
Thegauntlet: 25 BF DD 7months TTC#2 No AF yet
Pookamoo: 31 BF DD 24 months TTC AF since February
Poppet: 32 BF DS 16 months, TTC#2, no AF, don't know about ovulation....
Mamafoof: 30 DD 13 months TTC#2 first AF
Queenfee: 29 Bf ds 17 months TTC #4 no af yet
Silkenladder: 32 BF DD 19 months TTC#2 first cycle but no ovulation yet

OP posts:
pookamoo · 22/12/2010 12:31

no tips, sorry mamafoof I have a pack of 3 more tests which I will be taking over the next week or so just to make sure! Grin I hope the new year brings you some happy news too!

Mamafoof · 22/12/2010 12:20

wow - congrats pookamoo!! hope it's a sticky one and wish you all the best! Any tips for us ladies??

thegauntlet - know how you feel. My periods didn't come back till after my MC. Got pg before having one but knew i was ovulating and my night feeds had slowed down somewhat but my DD was coming up to 1 and at 7 months, i was still nightfeeding lots too. It will happen - don't worry - your turn will come!

pookamoo · 22/12/2010 10:23

Poor gauntlet I feel your pain!

My DD didn't sleep through until 15 months, by which time I had been back at work for 3 months, and she was still having night feeds then. It will happen one day, then you won't believe it!

Does she nap in the day? Can you get some sleep when she does (obvious things, I know).

For me, AF came back when I went to work, literally one month in. I think you're right and the significant reduction in BF is what does it.

on another note... I know I am not due to test until Christmas day, but.... I got a BFP today! Grin Keeping fingers and toes crossed it is a sticky one!

thegauntlet · 21/12/2010 19:50

just thought I would message as I am feeling irrationally jealous of AF!! I run a mums group today and 2 of the mums were going on about there hellish periods, and their babies are 3 months and 5months and both BF.
AND my sister ( baby 3 weeks younger than mine) has had one too....

Its all about the night feeding I think as their babies all sleep thru... as they delight in telling me.Envy

Feeling pretty sorry for myself and getting myself ready for a night of feeding every 2 hours again. Sad

pookamoo · 21/12/2010 18:02

Thegauntlet: 25 BF DD 7months TTC#2 No AF yet
Pookamoo: 31 BF DD 24 months TTC AF since February
Poppet: 32 BF DS 16 months, TTC#2, no AF, don't know about ovulation....
Mamafoof: 30 DD 13 months TTC#2 first AF
Queenfee: 29 Bf ds 17 months TTC #4 no af yet

QueenFee · 21/12/2010 14:37

sorry on my phone so can't copy and paste but if someone could add me to the list please
Queenfee 29 Bf ds 17 months TTC #4 no af yet
Thanks
Mamafoof thats good news!
Poppet I had heard that also. We are taking the just keep at it and hope approach. Maybe once he is 2 I will take a more dedicated approach. Tbh I am still doing a lot of night feeding so not expecting anything soon. I didn't get af back till I completely weaned the other 2 albeit they were slightly younger. I have a feeling I will be feeding ds for a while yet :)

Mamafoof · 21/12/2010 10:56

Welcome lovely ladies - this is a great thread - lots of genuine support, it's fab Xmas Grin

Am so so so happy for you LadyGG Xmas Grin Xmas Grin Glad you can enjoy now and wishing you all the very best hun xx

Good news from me. My AF turned up today - just when I was expecting it and with a LP of 14 days so hopefully I am back to normal now and we can start trying again soon. (For those who don't know, had a MC last month so am hoping to start trying again soon).

here are my stats: Mamafoof

Thegauntlet: 25 BF DD 7months TTC#2 No AF yet
Pookamoo: 31 BF DD 24 months TTC
Poppet: 32 BF DS 16 months, TTC#2, no AF, don't know about ovulation....
Mamafoof: 30 DD 13 months TTC#2 first AF

LadyGoneGaga · 21/12/2010 08:54

Thanks ladies! MS is yucky - not actually being sick but the constant nausea is quite wearing. Hopefully will ease ina few weeks though.

Poppet you could try charting temps but you could be charting for quite a long time but that would tell you, when you see the temp shift that you have ovulated. Have you been having egg white cervical mucus? That is a sign that your body is gearing up to ov. In my case I just waited til a period to arrive which it did when DS was 20 months old without having to change anything. But I wasn't desperate to TTC at that point.

Poppet45 · 20/12/2010 22:21

Oh forgot to add.... I heard that if you're still nursing beyond a year you're more likely to ovulate first then have a period. Sooo how do you know if you're ovulating? It's been so long, if I ever knew, I've forgotten. :)

Poppet45 · 20/12/2010 20:48

Oh I'll add my details to the list:

Thegauntlet: 25 BF DD 7months TTC#2 No AF yet
Pookamoo: 31 BF DD 24 months TTC
Poppet: 32 BF DS 16 months, TTC#2, no AF, don't know about ovulation....

I thought something momentous might be about to start this week as I thought I saw some pinkish discharge (sorry for way tmi) but we were hit by a stomach bug shortly after and DS has been feeding for britain so probably scotched that.

Normally we're on morning feed, nap, bedtime and one in the night (which I'd like to drop first, yawn, but that's another story).

And congrats to the graduates, Pookamo I think that sounds very promising too btw!

QueenFee · 20/12/2010 20:23

ladygg thats great news!

Fingers crosses gauntlet that the dropped feed works. Were feeding more than a newborn atm as ds is poorly.

thegauntlet · 20/12/2010 19:12

Well done !!
8 week scan... man that is so exciting. I remember the little jelly bean at 7 weeks in my belly.

So..I have read today that Fenugreek can cause periods/ ovulation to start. This is v.confusing, as I thought it was a galactagogue, and surely if you are getting more milk/ prolactin you are less likely to ovulate?

It has been a tough week so far, last week was my first week back at work, and so dropped a feed quicker than i had hoped, as she just isn't interested when i come in at 430 as she is eating more lunch without me. Big fat sore norks. But maybe it will tip me over to burst out some super eggs? Heres hoping.

How much is everyone else feeding?

NotAnApple · 20/12/2010 13:20

So, so pleased for you LadyGG Smile. You must be so relieved!

Enjoy your Christmas now and relax until your 12 week scan. I have heard the same thing about the risk once you've seen the hb at 8 weeks. I think it drops to about 4% which is pretty great.

How's the ms?

LadyGoneGaga · 20/12/2010 13:00

Hi All,

Sorry not been around for a little while.

Back from early scan.

Little wriggly, baked potato with a heartbeat of 176. Measuring just about spot on (one day out, 1.9cm!) so feel very reassured and going to try and enjoy this now. Blubbed my head off. Then blubbed again in supermarket at all the Mum's with two children happily playing with each other. Wahhh.

Just got 12 week scan to get through but apparently risk of mc drops a lot once you have seen a HB at 8 weeks - I know there are no guarantees but much, much happier.

NotAnApple · 20/12/2010 12:00
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wetwelly · 18/12/2010 23:28

Hi all.. Hope you don't mind me joining - I have attempted to read through the old thread but it was taking weeks and weeks and not even half way! Lots of useful info though.

I am currently ttc #5 (!) but still bf #4 who is 14 mths and stubbornly demanding at least 3 feeds a day/night. Wondering if I possibly just ovulated for the first time and getting quite excited!

If so, then on 5dpo.. time will tell

pookamoo · 18/12/2010 22:26

Thanks silken
Marking my place.

Following on from Gauntlet:

Thegauntlet: 25 BF DD 7months TTC#2 No AF yet
Pookamoo: 31 BF DD 24 months TTC

Actually, I am feeling a little bit of a fraud here now... last week DD declared "bubboo broken mummy" and seems to have self weaned overnight. Am a bit Sad about it but am taking the "don't offer, don't refuse" line, so I don't consider myself to have weaned her... I hope I'm still allowed on this thread! Grin

On the plus side, I did wonder if just maybe the reason it is "broken" is because of some kind of hormonal thing and maybe, maybe, maybe... we'll see.

Anyway, am still trying to hold my nerve and not test until Christmas day when AF is due!

thegauntlet · 18/12/2010 21:30

yay! thiss is a little more manageable for newcomers....
DD 7 months, BF morning and evening and 2-3 in the night.
We are ttc#2 coil has been out for 5 weeks, manky spotty skin etc...

Feeling a bit sad really to think that I might be stopping/ cutting down BF further to conceive; We are moving to Mozambique in June 2012 and I would really like to have another, and for it to be at least a little less 'newborn' by then...

Can we start doing what they did in the last thread to keep track?
Me: 25 BF DD 7months TTC#2 No AF yet

Poppet45 · 18/12/2010 21:18

Hi all I'm a newby on the conception boards but finally thinking about having baby 2 if I can convince a halfway there but still very sleep deprived DH, but still BFing DS1 (16months). Conceived DS the first time we tried but haven't had AF and am not even sure I'm ovulating. Or how to find out... or what lots of the above acronyms mean POP, SBF, SWI, CDxx so lots to learn.
Settles in with comfy chair and alcohol free beer (sigh, still).

QueenFee · 18/12/2010 19:47

hi nutty one good luck. I love having kids close in age so am a bit sad that the 2 year gap has already passed for me this time.
Thanks silken for the shiny new thread I can now see it on my phone again!
I had some ebay cheapy tests arrive in the post today and am trying to resist trying one! My monthly just in case test is not due till christmas day but the temptation...
I am off to google angus cactus as I need some help getting af to arrive

nuttyone · 17/12/2010 15:56

Stopped POP yesterday, it took 3 weeks to be brave enough to stop. A bit nervous about balancing pregnancy with 9 month old still BF and a demanding job. Now waiting for a period, never thought i'd actually be desperate for one again!! Already desperate for another baby...