By hook or by crook we will shag our way to victory - thread for the JSing viroids

star. Going to Nando's and the cinema in a minute. Not exactly seductive (we're probably seeing Monsters) but it is the kind of date that sixteen-year-olds go on, so p'raps it'll be conducive. Just depends on the amount of hurling that's involved at my end...

Good luck not unwrapping those presents!

ttl maybe you should try the failsafe 'beef stew' method of getting some

vallinnapod I have nothing but respect for you and your DH, as I do anyone who goes through the IVF/assisted process. You are amazing

Truffkin good call on the cake etc. I made beef and ale stew on Friday night and DH practically swooned. It's always a winner.

Mog be careful on the double ice layer! Thank goodness all our snow and ice has melted at last. It's surprisingly pleasant to be able to see the street again (and take the car out).

Sounds like everyone is having a lazy Sunday Same here; DS is watching Night Garden, DH and I are lounging around. The ILs have just dropped by with our presents - two enormous piles of wrapped boxes, how will we ever keep our hands off?

milanomum that is awesome! Such great news. Merry Christmas already

Oh my God I want pie and cake now. Just throw it in the hole here: -

truffkin loving 'sex week'. Sex moment would be good in this house atm . At least it might stop me copping off with strangers in my dreams (I actually had a hot affair last night and got caught by an ex-colleague about to shag this guy in a restaurant. There really is something wrong with me.)

Anyone else watching Nine Months on TV at the moment? It is unbelievably shit

Welcome tory79 and happy shagging!

Welcome tory...as NMCB said, come and play!! If you're like I was, you've been lurking for a while and already feel like we're friends...I promise it is even more fun when you join in! I was not one of the original JSers, but think the others would agree that we don't insist on pure JSing. The sentiment is there...but considering I'm on clomid and am as specific on shagging as you can get, Vallinna is having IVF, lots of others are OPKing and temping, etc (or did that and got their BFP) the rules are there to be broken!

Escape - that is utterly insane. I'm not even sure I believe you. Surely these women are not confined for 40 days with no one allowed!!!???!!

Glad to have you back Truffkin. I love the sound of your baking. I wonder once I have children if I will suddenly turn into a domestic goddess...would be nice, but honestly don't hold out much hope. Will have to virtually eat your cake instead!!

Am currently curled up on the sofa, snuggled under a duvet. Had that Sunday dose whilst DH watched rugby....love that feeling! Off to my works' Christmas meal this evening. At a nice pub, and OH's are invited too. Really looking forward to it, as I work with a nice bunch. Food should be good too.

Vallinna - how were your bloods today? I so hope you've had more good news and are feeling a bit chirpier. I so appreciate your advice on bits and pieces clomid related. You are amazing to be doing as well as you are considering the road you've travelled so far. :) and to you.

Where's BB? You alright darling? No more spotting, I hope.

Glad you got a lie in Mog - and hope you went with the shortcake for breakfast. No brainer to me! Not long til you have more time off for Christmas.

Sorry I've been AWOL for a few days, crazily busy times IRL - most inconvenient

Congratumulationz Milano hope you are feeling well and still in your post-BFP cloud!

Mog your breakfast sounds like a great idea. I didn't actually get up until noon and DH has only just joined me on the sofa so very lazy Sunday for us.

I'm about to pop to the shops to pick up a couple of things for making a cake. Am feeling domesticated and as we're not having a tree this year (we have a real tree and will be away from 23rd - 30th December it feels like a waste) I'm channelling my inner Nigella! DH is most excited as I'm going for chocolate fudge cake, his favourite. Next week is 'sex week' (TM) so am making sure he's feeling the love

Vallinna I can't believe how great you have been through the whole journey you are still on. Sorry that sounds so sappy but you shouldn't feel bad at all, you've been brilliant.

Loving the sound of your garland SnowyMiff my Mom has something similar around her fireplace. Very festive. I'm with you on the date confusion as well, my cycles have been getting more predictable but I'm certainly not a mythical 28 dayer! If I do ever manage to win my baby I'll be interested if the dates change at the first scan.

Your sonographer sounds annoying NoMore as if you can override your GP when your cycle feedback was ignored! At least you get another scan though, which is the silver lining

Right then, I'm off to purchase ingredients. Will try not very hard to avoid distraction from the lovely little boutiques on the way. Well, if I arrive home with some new boots or a cardigan, I can distract DH with beef & Guinness stew and chocolate fudge cake

Oops, yes outed myself as a lurker there!!

Its cycle 4 for us and I am desparately trying to pretend IT DOESN'T MATTER, I'm calm, taking things as they come....

But that would all be a big fat lie! Plus I am charting and just started with opk's this cycle so figured I wouldn't be allowed on here in the first place

takethatlady they DO keep you in confinement for 40 days after the birth, during which time you are not allowed to leave the house and/or have visitors!!!!!

milano yay yay yay!!! Great news.

vallinna allow yourself to be down, to be stressed etc etc, You have done so bloody well so far, you are allowed some down time too. I am sure shagging by numbers is no fun at all - i find sometimes even the every-other day shagging sometimes gets too much. Chin (and legs) up... and fingers crossed!

BTW it has got a bit colder here, wearing wooly jumper finally!!! Very cripsy day, took all dogs out today, including our little pup, for whom it was first walk! :)

Whoop! Two clear lines milano! Yay

You're right Miffles, your decorations are an investment. That is what I will be saying to DH later anyway... We had rain too yesterday, but then this morning it is freezing again so now it looks like we have ice on top of ice. Skid-tastic! Managed to get sleep yesterday and had a lie-in today until 9am (that is amazingly long for me).

NMCB I would love to be a real-tree type, but I am too lax with cleaning to deal with all the dropping needles . I love the smell of them though.

Vallinna hope you have some less-stressed shags.

Right, need to buy a warm & long coat today for when I'm in the playground. Can smell the Thorntons caramel shortcakes that are within arms reach, might have them for breakfast....

milano that's amaaaaaazing! You must be pretty darn pregnant to have lines that dark! Congratulations and lots of cellotape and blue tack coming your way to stick it in :)

miffles yep, that's right. 28 day cycle if you conceived 10 weeks ago you're 12 weeks preggo. In fact, no matter what the cycle is if you conceived 10 weeks ago just add 2 weeks (because it's based on the mythical 28 day cycle that nobody has ).

escapeartist I can NOT believe that about Greece . Are they kidding???! Next you'll tell me they keep you in confinement for a month after the birth. Sounds suspiciously misogynist to me ...

Hmm tory79 are you a lurker? Come and play

Thanks for the follicular congrats one and all!

Milano whoop whee whoop!! Fantabulous

miffles the clomid shagging is incredibly stressful - far more so than IVF has been so far, we had quite a few arguements over 'having' to shag. Not meant to be a downer but just try and talk to DH. I basically said 'look, this is shite and methodical but think of why we are doing it.' I don't think the guys really how stressful it is fir us either.

I haven't slept very well, think it is all getting to me at the moment. At least it's Sunday. Feel hungover which is unfair considering I am 5+1 (that's time not drinking ) I hope today's scan/bloods so some more positivity so my mind shuts off and gets some rest

Sorry for being the pessimist today! On a happy note we are off to get our Christmas tree! I have Muppet's Christmas Carol on record to watch while we decorate!

Sunday hugs x

Milano!! I've seen your pee!!! , seriously though that's great news. .

SnowMiffles yes I have forgiven DH (after giving him a peice of my mind). I have far better things to be utterly pissed off-- annoyed at

We're not doing a tree this year. We're going away for Christmas so have decided to save our money (we're real tree types ). The in laws will have a tree though so we DS won't be missing out

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Oh hurray hurray hurrah!! That is brilliant news, milano. Congrats! Here's to this one being sticky. The lines look so dark as well. I was obviously predicting something when I added you to the graduate list!!

WOOHOO Milano !!!
Took me an age to work out that I should look at your profile. Congrats lovely.
Now, have some ready-to-roll-icing as a sticky substance (have just been icing some Christmas cakes for church. It's very sticky stuff!)

Milano yeee fuckin ha .

Sticky sticky thoughts. I have some syrup to hand, use that as a starter :)

I think if you look on Milano's profile you will see the pic she is referring to!

At least it was Saturday today, Mog so no school children. Hope you had a lazy day and caught up with yourself a bit. Still feeling mooncup shudders!!

I've had our tree 4 years (pretend one, obviously!) and not really got many new decorations since. But this is the first year in our house (not flat) so looking forward to putting the garland up the bannisters. DH rather reluctant for me to spend money on other decorations....but I think I might have to sneak some more in. They're an investment, surely, as you use them year after year! We're on a money saving exercise, you see.

Poor you escape my heart goes out to you - 17 degrees!! Actually we've have torrential rain all day, so all the snow gone. Feel a bit safer, actually.

NMCB - have you forgiven your DH yet? Hope all well in your household.

And for the record - nicklel the children's bookshop owner was lovely. Very helpful and knowledgeable. Although she could do with a cordless phone!

Milano you can't do that!!! What was the pic?!!! Please be a positive PIAR stick!!

Argh! Milano it said "Sorry we couldn't find that picture"...

That just seems v odd to me, escapeartist. Why stay in the house? It's not like they can get drunk or anything !

SnowMiffs Gillian got voted off. Shaun was hilarious when they got the news. Final today .

We're thinking about getting a new tree and baubles too Eskarina. I bought mine when I lived with my ex about 5 or 6 years ago...... so it is probably time!!

Nickel, at least you know where you are in your cycle now, even though you are probably at missing out on POAS. Well, I would be anyway, I am still at the stage where I find it exciting and would PO-lots-OSs if I was rich enough even if I knew there was no chance of upduffage. You know, just to check they are accurate... !

The way of counting weeks since conception seems totally crazy! Gah to the HCP who ignored you TTL, and then again to the one who told you off for being (not) late. .

Milano how are you doing?

In Mooncup experimentation land (that just sounds wrong) all is going well. It is actually better than I expected!

I gave up caffeine around the time I joined the thread but last night I drank a litre of diet coke. I couldn't sleep at all. In the end I came downstairs at 1.30am and did school work until about 4am. Then I got a bit of sleep whilst the cat kept jumping on me. So knackered now [ftired face] That's the last time I do that!

I'm sorry this is so short and I promise I'll come back soon but...look!

Awesome news about follicles vallinna and also great that they are open Sundays! Sounds like a good place. (Private i am guessing...)

Weather finally a bit colder here (by which I mean 17 degrees... ) and suspicion of rain, but walking the dogs tonight got us chilly. (Though I realise that you are all freezing over in the UK and it doesn't compare to my vaguely cold hands. Still can't wait to wear some winter clothes...)

Boo for ERTD nickel
And what great news for scan NMCB - did you get a little picture to take home? (or is that much later and I know nothing??)

So... AF should be here. Had some cramping a few days ago and thought yay! I will have a 31 day cycle again (normal, as opposed to last two of 35 and 36) but it's gone again... No chance of being upduffed, so no excitement :( Just want to start my cycle!

Any news from milano? Did she/didn't she POAS?

Planning to have some friends over for my Bday (30th!!) on Wednesday and sent out an email to everyone. Have only been in Greece for year and a half two years so have few friends - have invited about 8 girls (and a gay friend) for a girls night in with wine and nibbles... Then got two of my friends, who are pregnant, saying they are not leaving the house still! One friend is 5 months and has not left the house since she found out (and does nothing!!!) as she thinks she will harm the baby and the other again does not want to leave the house until 12 weeks!!! Also a few months back I was running with an American friend of mine who was visibly pregnant (i think around 6 months) and we got several people telling us off! Pregnancy is like a disease in Greece... you are not meant to do anything! Am I being unreasonable thinking that is v wrong??

Can't wait to continue to be (about as) active when I get pregnant...

miffles you're so sweet!
can't believe how nervous you were! how scary can a woman who runs a children's bookshop be?

thank you, you made me very happy

Tee hee Nickel!!!! I feel like a naughty school girl