TTC after MC, ERPC anyone want to join me??

Have decided to get more festive by changing name from wonnaywombat to winterwombatland

Hi beesok - agree with you re: the NCT thing - seems most insensitive.... maybe they have a policy for that sort of thing that they don't put any notes in for anyone. Anyway, I know I'd be the same as you. Very much with you on the gym/fat thing - I seem to have put on 2kgs which won't go. I think even though my gym effort has been good, I've been allowing myself more treats - "I've been through a tough time therefore I deserve them" type thing.... hope the gym is good therapy for you.

Really finding it hard to be at work with all these Christmas reminders - just want to go out and buy presents and make mince pies!

Hi Ladies!! Sorry haven't been on mumsnet much - hard to believe but I have been really busy at work (end of term, kids going to school etc TONS of paperwork!) and then was spending a lot of time in the gym - I am so angry at all the weight I put on in my short lived pregnancy - I mean how unfair is this - the fat I keep but no baby? (sorry for bad humor hope am not offending anyone!) and then was just collapsing in bed - exhausted.

Sorry that some of you still have ups and downs - well, I guess it's normal - I had a major "down" when I got an email from Bounty - I would have been 10 weeks this week :(

Also I got a cheque with the refund from NCT but - and maybe I'm overreacting - it was just a blank cheque with no note or anything, no email response or call back - now I am not THAT sentimental but if I worked at the NCT and someone emailed me saying they had a miscarriage and were wondering if they could cancel their place and get a refund I would have slipped in a "sorry for you loss" one-sentence note with the cheque? Maybe I am overreacting :)

Also news from my end - the spotting FINALLY stopped and we did it :P I was a bit scared of the whole thing but also missed it so we just went ahead...tbh it's weird I am not monitoring my ovulation etc - I think subconsciously I need a break from all the pressure of pregnancy and I just want to let things happen - at least for now...

Hope you all have a wonderful Sunday! xxx

Hi all - hope those of you with snow haven't been hit with cabin fever yet and if you have you're making the most of it, all tucked up in bed !

Sorry to hear that there have been some ups and downs this last week - these wretched dates are a real pain sometimes. While v hard at times, I guess it's good to work through it and feel as if there is some healing going on. Thinking of you all.

Like yellowtomato I've had EWCM for about 5 days too which is most unusual for me. We DTD for the first time on Thurs and it was fine (very nice in fact!) We're not actually taking precautions though - is anyone else...? While I said that I wanted to wait until after first AF to begin ttc, clearly I'm not! . I am enjoying the benefits of not being PG but feel like I want to get PG asap.....

hi ladies, just thought id pop in and say hi, been abit distracted the last week with work, so not been on mn for neally a week now....
Tough week last week, pg people everywhere i look, and yesterday i found out via a stupid pampers email that i would of been 6 months pg now!!! Which was really tough, but on the other hand i feel ive come a long way in neally three months, dates, times and my memory is fading...(a little)
this is going to be my first month of ttc am a little apprehensive as i know thungs like this can become an obsession for me, temping, ov sticks are all at the ready!!

My question to you ladies is, ive been temping since my last period and as of yest havent used my ov sticks, do i start using them when ff predicts my fertile window is??
And as for my temps, there all over the place no real pattern... Ekkkkkk help!!!

kitkey I know what you mean re cost of CBFM but on amazon they're less expensive than in boots, less than £60 and I figured I was spending 20 odd quid a month on CB digital tests anyway so I managed to justify it to myself Mind you I guess with the cost of the sticks too it does all add up... I just found a thread on here for people using it though and I feel slightly less optimistic than when I read the amazing amazon reviews. I know I said that I knew it wouldn't be a magic wand to pregnancy but I guess I was kind of hoping it was, yet it seems like loads of people on here have been using it for ages . Anyway, apologies for going on and on - I'm not helping your desire for a distraction am I - you can see I'm just as obsessed!!

Sorry about your dates brought - I've just gone past the would have been 12 weeks in the last couple of days, it royally sucks doesn't it. I guess I'm waiting for my period too. You know what, I'd kind of forgotten to expect it after being without it for a few months. I think it'll still be a shock for it to arrive though. After the ordeal of my 'natural' mc I've seen enough of that type of stuff to last me a lifetime I think! I'm going to try to be positive and see it as my body working properly though. Might be easier said than done but I guess this month at least I know 100% that I'm not pregnant so it won't come with feelings of disappointment.

Morning ladies.
Sorry about your bad time yellowtomato, hopefully it will be easier now you can start trying again properly and I too think lots of EWCM is a very good sign. It certainly doesn't sound like you need preeseed but it's not going to do any harm either!!

kitkey I wish I could help with your obsessivness, it is exactly how I get and why I am not doing the whole POAS daily, maybe christmas could be just the distraction you need, have you got any excuses to get pissed get togethers happening?

sparkly I was sad to read your downbeat post you are usually the most upbeat from the lot of us, with you been a bit further down the road than us since your MC I guess we are seeing our down days are not over .

I would have been 12 weeks today and it is now 28 days since my MC so I am now looking out for AF I had EWCM at around the usual time. My AF is usually very light so I am interested to see if there is any difference now.

Hi Ladies -

Sorry you feel a bit down yellowtomato - it is only natural to dip at these sorts of dates.

koolforcats I think a cbfm would be a good investment - I would love one but have already spent a small fortune of ov tests.

DTD - it was same as before so no different down there since ERPC. Finally got BFN just this am so am starting to DTD a lot from now on , checking for EWCM and POAS daily - I have a lot of cheapies and a clearblue digital pack of ov test. Also I often get AF type pains around ov so know when it's time - just seems a long way off right now - my body feels- well I'm not sure how to describe it out of order/ barren/desert like!

I need a distraction as I'm becoming a bit obsessed with getting up the duff ASAP so much so that I'm not really participating in real life and when i see a pregnant woman my heart sinks.

Hi it's meltobe with my new name - figured at last that I'm not tobe anything right now so I'd have a change! Mind you I guess I could be to be...about to eat chocolate, to be....about to read grazia etc etc so I guess it could still work. Too late now, I'm wittering.

Oh sparkly it's sad to hear you sounding low - significant dates are really difficult aren't they. I do hope you're feeling brighter today. Sending big hugs your way.

Kitkey sorry that you're feeling so worried about it all, it's a difficult thing to feel relaxed about isn't it? I do hope you're ok.

Which leads me to admit to giving in - I've ordered a CBFM - I know it's not the magic answer but I'm looking upon it as taking charge of my fertility rather than a tool to feed my obsession! I jusr can't be doing with it taking a year again and hope that this just might help.

yellow I think you were thinking of getting one too, let me know if you do! . I too am slightly dreading Christmas. We're going back to the UK for a a couple of weeks and were so looking forward to sharing what would have been our happy news. about your EWCM - what's that all about? They do say you're more fertile after mc so maybe you really are! I hope you're making the most of it!!

Hi sparkly really sorry that you are having a bad day....it's horrible when dates pop out at you and also difficult to see other pregnant people. At least it's the weekend now so you can have a little time to recover. I hope you feel better soon.
In other news I still have EWCM......that's FIVE days of it, I only usually have it for one day....what does it mean? Normally i know that 48 hours later I'll ovulate......I can't ovulate all week!!!
I am pleased it's the weekend, time to relax.
I am dreading Xmas a bit cos I'd planned exactly how I was going to tell my parents the news (and my in laws) so when I'm there I'll remember the conversation I had imagined I'd be having.
broughthim what a bonus from the snow...rumpy pumpy.....well done!!
kitkey how did dtd go? (I don't need all the details!) How are you feeling? Hope you are feeling a little more relaxed?
My pre-seed hasn't arrived yet, I thought they said 24 hours or something. Hope it doesn't get lost in the post.....or get damaged so they open it and deliver in a clear package.....arggh that could be embarrassing...... should have just gone to Boots..would have been safer.
How is everyone else? Any snow dramas?

Bad day today, suddenly thought this morning that it's been 8 weeks to the day since my scan, and I'd probably be at my 20 week scan today or thereabouts, excitedly finding out whether I was going to have a little boy or girl. Having had a couple of weeks of feeling fine, I now feel horribly fragile and keep getting weepy at work. Not good as I've also cocked up made a minor error so need to be professional in front of really senior people.
The girl at work who's had 3 miscarriages is starting to show. I thought this morning, godammit, you've got my bump!
Just needed to unburden, and as with all things it will pass, hope you're all doing a bit better than me! x

Got to be quick - going to DTD tonight TMI sorry. Nearly got a BFN today - line barely visible - used up all my cheapies nearly so not going to buy anymore as I am addicted to poas. Brought Yes she showed be what she used and it was just a large plastic vibrator shaped syringe type thing and that was all she used - it took less than 10 mins. I hope it will be OK. I am a real worrier - always have ben -it is annoying to be such a worrier.

Well ladies I have enjoyed this snow day! DH got turned back from work so he came home and suggested we went back to bed!! we had a rumpo session in the day! with the kids playing downstairs!! I do believe this experience has brought us closer together, and I have to say for someone who is usually very careful with his little swimmers he was being remarkably relaxed ( we have successfully used the whip it out method for 9 years) as we have decided to put ttc on hold until feb because of our orlando holiday!

The snow has been a real pain her today tho......the A1 got closed right near out house causing absolute mayhem.

kitkey did you say you had the vaccum method of erpc? as that is alot better than the scraping method for not causing ashermans.

mel I like star havn't had problems conceiving so not used fertility friend, but I do tend to get obsessed with things and don't think it would be healthy for our relationship!

yellow christmas break already!!!!

Star that is HILARIOUS! Gosh lucky you, I wish I could get pregnant quickly. I wouldn't go there with the cycle stuff if you don't need to - I'm sure it's enough to drive anyone slightly crazy

Having said that....yellow I too have been dabbling with the idea of a CBFM. I find it a really fine balance between wanting to know what's going on and getting obsessed though! And I really wonder whether it's less likely to happen if it's all I think about?! Also, I'm really pleased that you were able to talk to your tutor. I know you can't control what your clients talk about but right now you need plenty of looking after and less exposure to potentially upsetting stuff.

Hope everyone else is doing ok today

Damn it.....i want some EWCM!!!!

Got to confess, all this stuff is new to me. I've never taken notice of my cycle and as i got pregnant quickly, never really had to. I do find it all fascinating though. I fancy taking more of an interest next time....it'll keep me busy :)

I'll try Sparkly's husbands approach with DH tonight......are you horny, lol!!! Better than DH's occasional seduction technique of slapping it on me, with a semi on, hoping for a bit :o

Hmm sorry for writing so many long essays!

Afternoon all

Thanks for the kind words and support, I new you gals would understand. I am calmer now and the training today was good and took my mind off it. It is sometimes good to be busy. I did tell my tutor after cos she is my overall assessor for the year but only assesses me every 4 weeks so wanted her to understand what went wrong. We only had about a minute before the next session but she was sympathetic. Unfortunately you cannot control what your 'clients' talk about. Well I'm on Xmas break now until 10th Jan so will be stronger by then. Not really looking forward to seeing her pregnancy progress and knowing that is the stage I should be at but at least it's only once a week. Just hope she's not in my small skills group next year..there are 24 of us and 5 groups.....what are the chances???

wonnay thanks for the EWCM info, I have some, bit less than usual but sounds like you def won't need any pre-seed!

kitkey really sorry that you are having so much anxiety. I haven't read anything about it so don't really have anything useful to say to make you feel better. I tend to think it must be fairly rare or more people would have heard of it. I really have no idea why there would be so much discrepancy but maybe Ashermans society only deal with those that have it and so don't know about all the people that don't? Just ignore me if that's not helpful......

meltobe I tend to ovulate 48 hours after I get EWCM, I know this through ov sticks and when AF appears. So you might be about to ov. I tend to time things to the day after I get EWCM and 2 days after that. It took me a year to get pg both times so I feel your pain. I've not tried ff but I didn't think I needed anything else to stress about. i did have 3 sessions of acupuncture last time, have now bought pre-seed and I had been considering a CBFM but wondered if that might be going a bit too far.......

sparkly we have similar conversations here. Except when it gets to the crucial time of the month when it's like 'ok neither of us want to but let's just get on with it' oh the romance......

Got sent home an hour early from the course because of snow but it's not even settled! Well at least I'm nice and cosy at home and could put a washing on and catch up with you guys. [grins}

Sorry, meant to also ask if anyone uses fertility friend? I wasn't sure because of the not wanted to get too obsessed thing (I am already tho!) but I wondered how easy it is? I only looked at the site briefly but I wondered if it looked a bit complicated?

kitkey waffle away, that's what we're here for - let's face it, where else can we talk about hcg, ov sticks and EWCM without people thinking we're off the wall?!!

Speaking of EWCM, wonnay.....!!!

I'm worried....I know this is a ttc thread and even though I'm a born again virgin (it would seem) I do want to ttc. My problem is the all consumingness of it all. No sooner had I noticed some EWCM this morning than I was doing an OV stick (which was negative so perhaps it wasn't EWCM after all?!) and it just reminded me of that anxiety that I went through every month for almost a year until I finally got pregnant. I'm far from blessed with an active sex life so for us life really felt like it started revolving on when we 'had' to dtd which takes all the fun away from it and just adds to the stress of it all. It all came flooding back to me today . Grrrr!

It's £180 or thereabouts for a private gynae scan here in London. I could get one but not sure how much reassurance it would provide as I think HSG is the best way to diagnose and although ultrasound can highlight problems it is not the best way to check! hmmmm I want reassurance but don't want to spend £180 to still be in a stress - I could save the money for an early reassurance pregnancy scan if i was to get so lucky again. I'm starting my hunt for EWCM in the next few days and going to DTD tomorrow as it will 2 weeks after. I think best thing for me to do to stop this flippin worry is track for ovulation - I've got a million ov sticks and then if I get ov but no af - straight to Dr/private gynae - my DH has promised me this if I have got problems as i have driven him loopy with my incessant worry the last 2 weeks (seems much longer than 2 weeks ago that I was told no heartbeat) AS a nurse I never thought ERPC would trouble me and cause worry but you cannot get a straight answer from anywhere about how common asherman's really is. The organistation would have you believe it is very common. My consultant said it was very rare - Why such discrepancy - I always look for research on medical stuff and never before have i found such discrepancy. Sorry for the waffle - DH sick of listening x

thanks for the update wonnay!

thanks for the percy pigs meltobe! Good news re: your decreasing HCG (again a bit ironic....) and re: the EWCM - while I don't know my HCG levels, I seem to be producing enough EWCM auction it on e-bay at the moment! Anyone else? (sorry if TMI....)

I know I shouldn't be jealous of your snow, but I am!

Thanks for the tips on pre-seed everyone - we can get books through Amazon delivered here but I'm not sure about other stuff. May get the next visitor coming through to smuggle some into their suitcase....

Yellowtomato - I can't begin to imagine how hard that must have been last night. Well done for even keeping it together during the class. I'm so sorry you had to go through that - sending hugs.

kitkey - good to see you posting here and v glad to read you are feeling a bit more positive - a bit ironic I guess as the PG line becomes less positive.... sorry to read that Ashermans is worrying you so much - a scan may be just the thing to put your mind at rest. Mine was exactly 2 weeks post ERPC and they do it via an internal scan. I signed the receipt for that plus the culture test and it came to around 120 quid, from memory (but that is of course here, not in the UK). Hope that helps. I wish I could offer something else to help with your anxiety.

sparkly - you do make me chuckle - I think I have repeated / will repeat the same conversation here!

sparkly your posts do make me chuckle!

I'm jealous of all you you have dtd! We've still not and in fact haven't since I got pregnant as I felt so rough so in fact it has been......3 MONTHS! Quite worried that DH doesn't seem interested, I'm hope that this whole episode has put him off.

I'm interested in the preseed stories too - I might get some but my problem tends to be that when I find out about something which might increase the chances of conceiving I really get my hopes up. I guess there's no harm in trying.

Since my last bloods, I found out today that my hcg has gone from 2000 last time to 500 this time so I'm not quite there yet but heading in the right direction I guess. Oddly though I'm sure I had some ewcm today but do you think that's possible if there's still some hcg in my system?

wonnay and brought thanks for your AF suggestions, you both win an imaginary bag of percy pigs :)

Welcome kitkey I'm glad you're sounding positive.

yellow I'm so sorry about your evening, that sounded like quite the worst ordeal. Well done for just getting through it, you coped admirably.

Yellow, sounds awful, well done for getting through it! I hope your course today is not an ordeal, and gives you something to focus on. I'm much better when work is busy, when it's quiet I tend to take the piss lose motivation somewhat.
Well, we didn't do the deed last night;
DH (wearily) - "you horny then?"
Me - "erm, not really"
DH - "I'll get the tea on then will I?
Me - "ok then babes"
Settled down on the sofa and shouted at Nigel Slater's simple suppers; his fridge is full of useful 'leftovers', rather than stuff you just have in. Leftover marrow anyone?
We have snow!