TTC after MC, ERPC anyone want to join me??

or peckermylittleoldfriend and then we can call you pecker for short.

MrsB I can't believe you can do it 3 times in day......I remember this when I was a student but i just don't think either of us would be able to manage it now. Even every day is pushing it a bit!

worm that would be hilarious if you ever have to explain yourself!

manamana good to hear from you. Sorry you are feeling so tired, i think it's normal to feel nervous. Are you going to try to get an early scan or are you waiting until 12 weeks?

wombat so did you go for the 5am action? I have to say that would be impressive dedication to duty!

I'm on the lookout for EWCM then it will be GO, GO, GO....but with or without alcohol, that is the question!

how bout, mylittleoldfriendpecker???

Hello ladies, happy birthday sparkly.
Not been around for a while cos exhaustion has struck and am also feeling more wobbly as I get further on. Theoretically 7 weeks today so am just thinking not many more weeks to go till I know either way. Appt with gp on Thursday so been counting down to that and hoping I don't just cry on her- I do have a tendency to wail in the presence of drs!
Yellow, definitely liking the link between booze and pg, sounds like it would definitely be worth at least one month of heavy drinking to see if that will work again.
Wormshuffler, Absolutely loving the thought of your name becoming more widely know and people wondering where on earth it came from ;-)
Mrsb yes definitely something with pecker in it cos I haven't heard that from anyone else in a very long time!
Anyway, take care all. Good luck with the swi, if you managed the 5am then respect.

wombat i think i missed that one?? 5am?? Bloody ell!!! I thought having it three times in one day was commited! 5am god that has to be rewarded with a bfp
worm, that so funny it just made me laugh out loud, i still cant get the images out of my head!!! Lmao...
I need to change my name i think, new year new start, has to involve pecker and my little friend any ideas ladies??

Hey.........someone just said I had a great name on another thread-----> runs off giggling behind hand. If only they knew pmsl xx

Hi ladies
Good look with all the SWI, I wouldnt worry about not being there on OV day Mrsb, as isnt it better to have the little fellas there inside ready to pounce when the egg comes out ? The egg only stays alive a few hours doesn't it, wheres the little fellas last longer??
Nice to see you again nurse good luck with the 2ww.
One of my friends has just announced she is PG even though only 7 weeks it is on facebook! It is her 3rd and she wasn't trying.........
I'm crossing everything yellow that your tests were wrong, as you have been PG twice!! and if drinking seems to work for you then I suggest you do it every OV week!
Hope the 5am fornicating worked out for you wombat ! that is commitment!
Hi sparkly Brown wave!!
xxxx

oooohhh how exciting!! Just hope the peak isnt sat as im not going to be there!!! Shit.....
I ov,d on the 1st last month, so hopefully its the same this month..
Lets keep our fingers crossed, lets be on symptom watch together yellow. Good luck, pre-seed at the ready!!! Lol x

Actually MrsB we're in sync........i've due to ov about Saturday so will be 'in action' from Thursday.

me me me, my fertile days start thursday through to the 2nd, so planning some serious swi action!!! Im away sat night at a hen night in manchester, so at least dh can recover his sperm content!! He he he...
Believe it or not af is due on valentines day, so im hoping i get a extra special valentines prezzie this yr, and its a sticky one!!
Welcome back nurse youve been missed, yellow keep us upto date with your alternative theropies, sorry spelling is terrible, no spell check on my phone.
Waves to all xx

Hello nurse

Thanks for the positive stories. I think I'm still feeling limbo/shock and not sure whether to to the positive and optimistic route or the realistic pessimistic. I have acupuncture booked and am drinking green tea right now so we can see which way I'm going!

My advice would be don't test early if you can manage not to. Just because I hate to see a bfn although your symptoms are sounding hopeful. Not too long until Sat...fingers crossed.

Morning all

MrsB that is so funny, I guess they didn't listen at all in biology at school! It's lucky they don't feel the need to check the info that they are given with Dr Google!

I'm ok, feeling a little bit in limbo. I am waiting for the results of the last tests which should come through 'early this week' which are checking AMH again, FSH and something else.....as soon as I've got these I'm going to make an appt with GP to see what I can get out of the NHS. I won't hold my breath there though cos even if they are prepared to see me I imagine it would be quite a wait.

Re alcohol I generally have a lot more than the occasional glass! I tend not to drink Sunday to Wed but Thurs/Fri/Sat I could drink from half a bottle up to a bottle and a half each night. having said that the twice that I've been pg I ovulated 3 days after a 10 day drinking binge holiday in China and the second time I ov'd and went on a weekend bender trip to NY the next day. So make of that what you will!

The recurrent mc ladies are lovely but they have mainly all bonded in the way we have so they are welcoming but I feel a bit awkward cos I don't know their history/what they've been going through individually.

wombat no we haven't done any positive visualisation stuff, doing Freud at the moment who has some interesting ideas....

Come on sparkly tell us about your b'day

Who is on the 2ww...who is SWI we need action around here!

Morning all - hope you're having good starts to your week so far.
mrsb - your antics / non-antics with DH made me laugh - you can tell them anything!

brownb - good to see you on here and yep, I'm with you and yellow on the drinking thing too - this ttc lark can be sooooo stressful that a wee drink now and again is definitely what's needed to keep the sanity levels in check. As my DH often says, everything in moderation, including moderation!

sparkly - what did you get nice for your birfday?

yellow - look away from the mirror! It's almost as bad as Dr Google! I'm just as guilty myself sometimes and have to tear myself away reminding myself that no-one else ever looks at me so up close and for so long so they won't see what I see - easier said than done though! In your counselling work, what have you learned and experienced about PMA and visualisation? have you seen it help others? I can really understand about not wanting to get your hopes up, but your DP has a very valid point re: you being PG just 2 months ago.... sorry if you've already told us, but what are your dates for your next lot of appts, tests etc? (other than accupuncturist this Thurs). Have you had any more interesting responses from the lovely ladies on other threads? I see you had a lovely welcome from the recurrent mc board. Hope you're doing ok.

Nothing much to update from this end - AF should be ending tomorrow. Poor DH is desperate as due to thrush then AF, he hasn't seen any action for almost 3 weeks. He sent a text this morning requesting 5am action tomorrow - highly unlikely methinks especially as I'm out with girlfriends tonight at a ladies night that offers 3 free glasses of bubbles - remember wombat, everything in moderation, including moderation

Yellow hope you're okay. Can definitely recommend TCOYF. As for the drinking, I find this very hard too...

hi ladies, hope you all ok, sorry for late update, been at a shop opening set up today so early start late finish and am knackered!!!
happy birthday sparkly hope youve had a fab day!
yellow how are you my lovely??

Quick update, me and dh have had no ttc action since the 2nd of jan as the way i look at it we swi for those two weeks every day or other day depaendant on mood and thats all thats needed for that month!!! Its such a bloody chore!!! Lol
poor dh cant last that long, so this weekend that all his wanted to do!!! Bloody men.
Well any way sunsday we went and brought a new rug and he insisted on shagging on the new bloody rug!!! I managed to convince him that he had to save it all up till friday otherwise the sperm content would be reduced!!! The poor bugger only went and fell for it!!! Men are so gullable!!!! He he (evil laugh)

waves to all. X

Happy Birthday Sparkly I think it is a very good idea to make the birthday last as long as possible. You are only 37 once! I think a 'birthday week' is entirely reasonable! You were nearly there with the Zita West thing..I'm impressed with the literary references, I'd never heard of the other bird!

Re the wine.....I think it is a bit mean if they only bought 3 bottles between 5 of them. I would always take at least one bottle for me but have been known to take 2 just in case.

your description of 'being bored and wanting a cup of tea' really made me laugh....oh the joys of ttc.......re EWCM get yourself some pre-seed...job done!

wombat thank you for the links/advice/research really very helpful. At the moment my head is all over the place. I kind of wake up with a 'thud' remembering how gloomy the doctor was and so convinced the only chance was donar eggs and he is meant to be a specialist and I think i should try to accept it. But on the other hand DP pointed out that I was pg just 2 months ago...so something worked....and the bits of books I've skimmed through all seem to say that a positive mental attitude and visualisation is very important. But obviously don't want to keep hopes up if there isn't hope iyswim......so I feel very torn. I am going to make and appt to see acupuncturist this Thurs and see what he says.....

DP isn't really mad keen for children, he was only at about 55% so it is much easier for him to be philosophical about it. Also i guess it feels worse for me that it is my problem. I've been staring at my face and i feel like I can feel wrinkles appearing and that I look old. It's depressing.

Anyway........I'm going to go to the library and look at the books they have. And I might splash out and get a book. The 'take charge of your own fertility' does seem v popular on here but 'the fertility plan' I skimmed in Waterstones seemed good. I think some of the advice is contradictory though so could end up even more confused than now! It does seem though that cutting down/out alcohol is universally recommended which would be the hardest thing for me. If I knew it would guarantee success then no problem..it's just that you don't know! grrrr

What did everyone get up to at the weekend?

at 'happy birthday tingly'. I-phone by any chance? I read a thread where someone had meant to say 'get home' and the phone predicted 'gerbils'. Thanks star!

Zita West, that's the bird, thanks wombat. Was nearly there! Apparently her vitamins are a right royal rip-off but she has some salient advice. Might be worth a browse yellow.
Couldn't sleep so thought I'd pop on and catch up. Wanted to research whether ewcm was essential for conception, as I don't seem to have any! Not that ttc is taking over or anything
Ooh, can I just clarify that I didn't drink 3 bottles of wine, I meant that my tight-arsed frugal friends didn't bring enough booze with them so they raided my stash! Don't know how it happens on telly but for our CDWM we've brought our own, as we're all a bit skint and them scallops aint cheap! So I was feeling a little churlish about that, but hey ho. Think I probably had a couple of bottles worth though. Seem to be drinking a lot at the moment, the dehydration won't be helping the cause. The idea is to detox from tomorrow, which will be too late for this month but get me on track for next. Famous last words....I'm thinking of charting or temping or something next month, to gain a bit more control, but am afraid of getting too obsessive. DH was saying last night that he is enjoying the swi, because a lot of the time normally we can't be arsed and this gives us an incentive. Tis always enjoyable once you get going!
Anyhoo, have a lovely day everyone x

Ah jeez......massive typo disrupted my singing....damn the I phone. Tingly??? Haha!!! Xx

Happy birthday to you, happy birthday tingly, happy birthday dear Sparkly, happy birthday to youuuu!!!! :)

Hi again - just doing a quick search here on mn for Zita West and there are loads of topics with her name in it..... one that caught my eye was this one re: egg quality. Yellow - I know you're confused (as we all are I think) about AMH and whether it's about quality or quantity or both and if you are feeling in an up moment and wanting to do something else along with the gree tea etc., there are some interesting views in here. I'm sure you've done loads of searching already so sorry if I'm sending you stuff you already know or sorry if you've logged on here for some fun reading about sparkly's post-coital glowing positions and here I am waving the AMH stuff in front of you..... hope you're doing ok x

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SPARKLY - here's to a wonderful day full of sparkly things and wormshuffling (should you feel the urge!) I positively hooted with laughter at the thought of Vita S-W doling out advice on EWCM and then you having to suppress the giggles while DH was performing!

I think the lady you are referring to is Zita West - here's the website - can certainly understand the confusion with Vita S-W (who was also a keen horticulturalist, just in case you were interested ). I think I saw a post here on the Conception board about someone who didn't have a very good experience there which generated a few comments. The one fertility book that seems to be universally supported here on mn is Taking Charge of Your Own Fertility - I believe there is a US and a UK version and the the latest US version is the newest, if you can lay your hands on it. Hope this helps yellow - can understand the up and down-ness entirely and I'm glad to read that you're going to ask for the full set of results. How's your DP doing with all this? Hope he's ok too.

I think I'm beginning to think the same as you re: temping - the last few mornings, I have been half awake at around 4 and started thinking about it and then get more awake and then you're supposed to have at least 3 hours sleep before you take your temp so when we wake properly at around 6.00, I haven't had those 3 hours. This morning I thought I would take it if I woke up at 4, which I did and then I dropped the wretched thing and woke up DH! It's a real faff! Think I will stick with the OPKs and EWCM look-out this month and hope my cycle is back to normal

Waves to all!

Think you are still pissed sparkly and not surprised after 3 bottles!!!! Happy birthday for tomorrow :)
Good luck at the docs yellow I don't blame you for being up and down.xxxx

Just googled Vita Sackville West, she was Virginia Woolf's lesbian lover. I don't expect she has much to say about ewcm and charting......

Hi yellow , crossed posts! Not read any fertility books, people on MN seem to chat on about someone called, erm, is it Vita? I have Vita Sackville West in my head but think she's a suffragette. Can't search as on the laptop and don't know how to open another window . It's that 'taking charge' one.
That's not v informative is it?
Big hugs x