TTC after MC, ERPC anyone want to join me??

Hey star I forgot to say......I went to one of those butlins adult weekenders a year or so ago. If you are awake early watch out of the window at all the people going back to their rooms after a night of lust, still in last nights costumes, I spotted a wonder woman, a manquini, a smurf and tom cruise! was a great weekend.... just what you need!

ahhhh worm shoots like made me a little emotional, maybe its a sign?? I didnt do anything like that but my due date is looming, 22nd march, so my big sis is coming over from cyprus to help me through it.... Fingers crossed we will be preggers by then xx
star thats a very long time, i got my 5 weeks after but my doc did say it could take upto 12 weeks, so fingers crossed she arrives next week for you.
Yellow good luck with the gym session today, i dont know where you get the motivation...
Worm, laying there didnt help me at new year, so not holding out much hope, the only good thing about not going to the hen is im here for my ov peak, so fingers crossed i get that valentines baby.
Just wanted to add my dh friend wife is 6 weeks pg and i asked her last nyt when she thought it happened and she said it happened two days after her af as that was the only time they did it prior to??? Is that possible?? Maybe that where im going wrong?? Confussed.

No haven't seen GP - don't really like GPs or midwifes. I am a terrible patient for knowing best. Going to have a private scan at 8 weeks - my 31st birthday or thereabouts - 15 Feb. Am only 5+3 right now. I am so very tired and I have never had morning sickness so not sure why I am fussing about the lack of symptoms. Am just checking out best place to get a privt scan done in London - there are hundreds of place at least - around £100.

Nope. Defo not preggers. Did a test at the beginning of the week.

Hi ladies
Oh dear, looks like we are all having a down day......I was just pottering around the garden, and saw that the Rose bush I planted for my lost baby had some shoots on it so I was :) and :( all at the same time.
11 weeks of limbo is too long star could you be PG?
kitkey everything crossed for you....
nurse deep breaths its not over until the fat lady sings....
You never know pecker the just laying there stratagy could be a winning one.
The holiday tickets have come today so thats good.
Hugs to us all xxx

nurse I'm sorry you are feeling so anxious but it is totally understandable. i know if I ever get pg again I'd be a basket case. I'm heading that way as it is! What helps me is a relaxation/meditation CD....it does seem to calm down my thoughts..maybe worth a try? Please don't apologise for talking to us about it...we're here to hold your hand.

star i think you should def go and see the GP find out what's going on. 11 weeks is quite a long time...wow what a big step to move to another continent....but also what an adventure.

wombat thanks for the links, it's all so confusing...at the moment I am not going to see the GP or consultant as there doesn't seem to be much 'western' medicine can do for me if I rule out IVF/donar. I'm going back to see the acupuncturist a week on Thursday and will show him all the results and see what he says. I think Chinese herbs and acupuncture can have some success in lowering FSH but I also do have to start to accept that I really am in the last chance saloon.

You're fancy dress sounded great, 80s such a 'bad taste' era! We had friends over for dinner last night and I have got quite a hangover today. I will still battle on with the SWI however.

pecker might you have tonsillitis? Sounds painful but I am most impressed with your dedication to the cause.

kitkey big hugs to you, sorry you are feeling so anxious as well. have you seen the GP and are you having an early scan? I don't know that much about it but no symptoms in not necessarily a bad sign. Finger and toes crossed for you. The 2.7 puts me nearly in the next category up, the next one starts at 3. i think it is just looking at the odds....i am not in a very fertile situation and I am unlikely to be successful getting pg and if i do I'm much more likely to mc. but it could happen just not a very high chance. I wish I had a crystal ball.

Did temps again today, really not sure how it's going to work out because it's already doing my head in that taking the temp makes all this ttc business the first thing on my mind as soon as I wake up. Not sure that it's very healthy....

Right I'm going to go to the gym to try to sweat out some of this alcohol! And then SWI....it'll be a busy day!

11 weeks tomorrow Wombat.
I'm open to anywhere i think.
We have 2 sets of friends in Perth and another around the Central Coast north of Sydney. It would depend really where he can get a contract over there. He has a contact in orlando that he could use, if he ever wanted to coach after he's finished competing but not sure how the set up works over there so we probably wouldn't get to know until we started the process of actually moving there.
DS really doesn't want to go to Aus though but would happily go to US. Think he thinks that all the homes have gamesrooms and the kids don't go to school. He doesn't quite get that although we go to Disney on holiday, the kids that live there are at school, hehe.

yellow,nurse,kitkey, my positive thought are winging your way, not sure what else to say.
Im currently lay in bed with a throat infection, feel like im constantly ill at the moment, was meant to be at a hen weekend this weekend, but had to cancel last nyt as my throat got much worse as the nyt when on, almost closed it was that swollen?!!
Me and dh still managed a small amount of swi, which involved me just lay there!! Now thats commitment to the cause!! Lol
yellow im going to google whats happening with you as i feel i dont understand it enough to comment, but i can add im so sorry your having to deal with this ontop of everything else us ladies have to go through.
nurse fingers crossed the spotting is either the implatation or plain old blood.....
kitkey i think us ladies are programmed to worry especially after what weve all been through, how far are you now??

Waves to all xx

Hi nurse and sorry to read of your anxious moments - it's totally understandable given the history. Is there anything else you can do before the scan? e.g. Star's suggestion of some bloods at work (if you can do that without having to tell anyone....?) Keeping everything crossed for you and sending lots of warm thoughts x

And lots of thoughts to you too kitkey - it is such an up and down time. When is your first scan?

star - I probably would go to the docs if I was you - how long since your ERPC? You can at least get in the system to start having tests etc. done.

If it makes you feel any better we had a massive sandstorm yesterday - just horrible to venture out... and while I do consider myself extremely lucky to be here, it's not all a bed of roses! Whereabouts in Aus or the US are you thinking of trying out?

Try not to worry too much nurse. go home and rest and take it a day at a time. This is my fear with ttc again. I wished I'd started straight away in a way because I can feel the fear creeping in. I will be a nightmare. I find it barely possible to focus on anything other than pregnancies in those first few weeks as it is.....this is just gonna add to it. It does appear to be implantation though if it's at the same time your period would be due and you got a positive. Try to cling to that x

Hello all

Yellow Your results sound a bit better - does that AMH level put you in the "satisfactory" box - maybe it was the first result that was wrong - if you had got 2.71 first time round I wonder what would have been said.?! Sorry you are feeling upset about this - it is understandable.

Nurse Loads of people have spotting on BFP day or there about - implantation bleeding as Star said. I don't think it is unusual at all. Has your GP worried you? They are not great at the ttc lark or early pregnancy. Implantation bleeding is quite common. I don't think it is anything to worry about - I had spotting before this BFP. If it is not very heavy like AF and only lasts one day that is what it is - I have had it with all 4 pregnancy. If it is a mc it will be a chemical pregnancy so if the test is negative in a few days then yes but if still positive I'm sure everything will be grand.

Me - I am convinced that this pregnancy is going to fail. I have a really bad feeling about it - no spotting or cramping but no symptoms either. Got a 3+ on clear blue digital but did last time - time will tell - i can't face another mmc - just hope i start bleeding and have a full mc this time.

Just re read that. I meant our, not are!!! Don't think I can even blame that on my I phone.....shocking Star!!!

nurse is it possible that it could be implantation bleeding? Was yesterday your first bfp? When was the spotting? It is quite possible and are body's are a bit messed up so I would jump to a negative conclusion because we might throw up random signs and symptoms following the m/c. However, I completely understand the way you feel and regardless of what I've just said, would be exactly the same as you. Just try to relax and keep a note of any spotting if it makes you feel more in control. Another thing you could do is get a clearblue conception indicator as next week it should have moved up which could alleviate some anxiety. Will they not do your bloods on the sly at work? That would be the best option if they will do it for you but would obv mean telling someone. Lots of love your way. Thinking of you and hoping all will be well xx

Yes wombat, you seem to be having far too much fun in Dubai....not fair while we're back here freezing!!! :) Im always seeing pics of friends over there and it does seem to have a lively ex pat community. They're always at one social event or another. Their jobs all vary too. A few started on the airlines but settled and are now in real estate to one that works as a private golf tutor to some wedged Arab family.....they're definately living the dream. We're desperate to go and live abroad once DH finishes in his career. He will retire early cos he's in the sports industry, so we are considering the US or Aus to maybe finish the last few years and see how we like it. Think that's the only way we'd get on a visa.
My next big event is a butlins weekender so not quite as glamourous but should be interesting as never been before!! It's a friends 30th and the get up is school uniform and then a cheerleading outfit.......surely we're too old for all this?!!! haha.
Definately advising you to wait worm before you try :). Hope being away distracts you from the 2ww.
I have been spotting a bit of brown since the end of last week. When I wipe it appears bitty like watery with bits of tissue in it. Yesterday I had the slightest bit of blood amongst it as popped a tampon up so I could be disgusting and inspect it thoroughly! :) Would you guys go to docs as this has been way, way off a period although did have some cramping yesterday. Think my body is so f*ed up at the mo!!!
Hope you all have a great weekend xx

You do sound like you lead an interesting social life wombat good for you :) Off on hols 3 weeks today, AF due next sat, and starting trying straight after that (no not during star.....) So we will be on the first 2ww while we are there, now that is what I call a good distraction!!
I have nothing exciting going on here, last weekend the kids were both out during the day, playing around friends, and parties and things, so I said to DH what shall we do with ourselves, all I could think of was to either go to the pub or spend the days in bed, and I got turned down for both!! so I ended up on my laptop on the AIBU threads, while he was watching football. I hate it when the kids are out, the house feels soul-less. Only DS has plans this weekend, for a party laser shooting (wish there were parties like that when I were little)
Happy weekend ladies.
Hope you are ok yellow
xxxx

star - such a typical bloke response!

worm - great that DH is getting excited too! When is it your off on hols again?

yellow - sorry that you are feeling a bit down about the results. I googled the inter-assay variation to try and understand what that meant and from my very limited understanding of stats, it's about the margin of error (posh words = standard deviation) that has to be taken into account with any results i.e. how the samples were stored, transported, tested etc. so I think worm is right that the low reading could have been down to inter assay variations too. Just seen this on one website which seems like sage advice to me:
"Do not get carried away with the cutoff values shown here. For example, the difference between a 0.6 and a 0.7 ng/ml test result puts a woman in a "different box" in this table - but there is very little real difference in fertility potential. In reality, it is a continuum - and not something that categorizes well." - here's the link to the whole page - I'm sure you'll have done all your research already of course. What are your next steps in terms of GP / consultant?

Thanks so much for the offer of sending over a thermometer - so thoughtful of you. When I say I can't get a reading, I turn it on and wait for the beep, stick it in my mouth and on some days I have waited for 5 mins or more without the beep to say it's ready.... I think it doesn't beep because your temp has to remain steady for 30 seconds or something. It's really annoying and I think I can feel my temperature rising as I get more annoyed so not surprising I can't get a reading! I think I'm going to read the instructions again. Very interesting to read of that whole percentage point difference..... I assume the SWI went to plan for you and pecker?

In other news, we went to the fancy dress party in 80s gear last night - I managed a Desperately Seeking Susan Madonna look and was so chuffed to find a pair of genuine white stilletoes in the sale for about 4 quid!! Teemed with some black lace ruffle ankle socks, it was a great look!

Haha worm....yes, i think you definately set the benchmark there..no worries.

Yellow, yes it did get mentioned...just not in great depth....we airbrushed over the bad bits, acknowledged it and moved on. We were quite good friends actually and i have him on Facebook so can't have been too damaging. I do remember speaking of it with his best mate once who stated that on the first day he'd asked if he knew me and his responce was 'i think i shagged her' lol. Obviously didn't cement in his mind for too long then ;-)

They're everywhere... those pregnant ladies... grrr...

As for sex stories. Nope. None that are funny or otherwise worth sharing.

hmmmm yellow sorry for you it wasnt all a mistake and you are feeling so low....as is to be expected, but as a glass is always half full kinda girl, I would say those results are better than they were. Couldn't the low figure be due to this "inter-assay" thingy? I have no knowledge or experiance with fertility issues, but still think you should hang on to the fact that not so long ago you were PG!
Your FSH is no-where near that of menapausal women either. Was it the same consultant? have you been to see your GP yet?

Pecker I know what you mean with the other people getting PG, one of my facebook friends is 7 weeks ! and is posting on there all day with updates on her MS and posting this progress thing that shows the babbies progress. I think I may have to hide her for my sanity.

star love the first encounter story, bordering on TMI though...... (says me with my worm story HA)

Waves to everyone else
I have nothing to report, still can't wait to start trying again in 2 weeks and hubby is even sounding excited about it too, after me initially having to talk him around to trying for another. I feel so lucky every day to have the 2 I already have, and so sad for those of you who havn't been so lucky ........yet
xxxxx

so I got the results from the consultant today. AMH is now 2.71 so up from 0.85 but he said that would be due to 'inter-assay' variation whatever that means.

FSH is 16.6 which is high but much googling seems to show that it varies a lot but still def not in the 'good news' camp

FSH more than 12 mIU/ml suggests that the ovarian reserve is weakened. More than 25 mIU/ml is a confirmation of ovarian failure and most commonly found in menopausal women.

Feeling a bit down now.....i think I was kind of hoping it was all a big mistake...