Charter's Anonymous: Volume 3, here's to better luck this time for us all!

nix It obviously did the trick with you

well legs are a rather attractive white with zillions of red spots all over them now - nice! I look ready for stuffing now

Izzy looking at your chart, the temp dropping down after AF is normal - nothing to be concerned about. As someone else said I think it's as the progesterone levels drop, your temp drops as well.

It's great to see you had a normal LP last cycle. Things def. moving in the right direction!

getdown you need old holey ones with a fanjohole

Izzy: sorry for your losses. You have been so brave. Hope you have put all your sadness behind you now.
We are kinda living our 'philosophical' attitude at the mo. Going through motions, but not feeling that it will lead to anything. But it's not emotionally touching me as it once did. Everything else in our life is as perfect as I once dreamt it should be. Didnt dream the baby. Maybe that's why it didn't happen. We worked for everything else to happen- left this to chance/ luck/ kismet.... Hey ho

NIX !!!! how're you doing today? I'm hoping these knowledgeable ladies can help me make sense of my chart...

spilt thanks for your kind words, it is truly something no one should have to go through. I believe the technical medical reason we were given was "just one of those things, dear". I had had scans at 7+5, 10 and 13+1 weeks and everything was fine, then at 16 week appt, no heartbeat. Scan confirmed baby had died at about 14 weeks. We weren't offered tests as first mc. Maybe I could have pushed and got some done but tbh was just desperate to get the cremation etc over with. Five months on and coming up to the due date at Christmas, it still hurts but gets easier to deal with iykwim?

I read some of your earlier posts, and was really sorry that you lost Bobbie, it sounds like you've had a terrible time..,I'm so pleased to hear you've got your bfp now and hope you have a very dull and uneventful eight months...

fedup I really admire your attitude, although obviously I hope you never have to put your philosophical approach to the test. Fx the ivf works out for you.

Re waxing: I can stand it if someone else does it for me but cannot do it to myself. Tried to wax my own bikini line once - so painful! - ended up pulling it off too slowly as couldn't bring myself to do the all-at-once quick pull, thus ended up with huge bruising. That was attractive on the beach...

Go on... It is Friday night after all your legs are silky smooth( they will be, by the time you are ready to woo him!) and if not: put your stockings on!

yeah Just trying to work out if I can be arsed it's worth it.

Getdown: get some swimmers in there: knicker watching ain't gonna get you upduffed, dtd will give you better odds!

Thanks spilt. I've done my obsessing, to be honest. It didn't get me anywhere unfortunately. So, we're being sort of clinical about it, feel detached from it. Maybe it's a safety mechanism. It keeps me from being overly analytical or emotional. I used to get very involved. Used to question everything. But recently, I have this attitude that what will be will be. Still fantastic to have a baby though: charting is very very addictive: don't you find? Also gives me unfounded hope EVERY month, only for the RTD to rear it's ugly head! That's enough obsessing for me! Don't want to go raising the bar further than IVF!

nix surely the fluffy jim jams have to come off to Do the Deed? Or have you perfected the technique to DTD with jimmys still on, if so, secret please.

at the eggs and tadpoles doing a silly jig and salute! Oh Fedup!!! I know how you feel! Last cycle we timed it perfectly and still nothing. I can't understand it, what were the little swimmers up to?? There's only several million of them after all , surely ONE of them could get their act together

Well I just checked CM again. It's creamy but also had a little bit of twang to it - you know, a little bit of stretch.... what do you think, is that egg white, or not#?

I go by the motto that they keep my legs warm in winter..DH has no clue with fluffy jim jims on!!

Thanks mouse you take it easy m'love. x

NB: I personally think our eggs and tadpoles are all too tired and demented to KNOW what to do when they do get together! I imagine them doing a silly jig and a salute and then heading off their own way!

Thank you for the kind words ladies, it will indeed be dildo cam - oh the joy! Will be my 3rd visit in the space of 10 weeks. Hopefully this will have a happier outcome.

DH now knows Im going for a scan as the gp receptionist had left a message on 1571. I've just told him they want to check me over as I haven't had a period yet. He couldn't come with me either way due to work commitments.

I'm so pleased to have MN - you are all so great.

Fedup I hope the ap goes really well in jan xxx

Getdown: therein the problem lies. If it ain't broke how do ya fix it? There did come a point when I fervently prayed and hoped that they'd find something, fix it, then we could get on with it. But it was never gonna be that easy...

Spilt and Nix: don't worry about it. It's not your fault. I understand completely! I am to blame too... In that I've rather neglected this thread as been so rushed off my feet at work. And you girls certainly don't hang about, do you? It's so busy here! It's all good though.

x-post Fedup well you sound like you have a very sensible attitude to it all. Hope it works! The fact you've got no detected "issues" is surely a good thing.

Nix funnily enough as I looked at my pasty white legs covered red pluck marks this afternoon, it did remind me about getting the turkey in for Christmas

Thanks Getdown: yes, it will be our first round. We were very optimistic due to all the invasive tests done through the NHS coming back with fantastic results. The drs kept encouraging us to be patient. We've been married for 5 years now, not used any contraception in that time, hoping for a happy accident. Seriously ttc for 2. Now, we have accepted that it may never happen for us, but at least we will have done our best. However, we don't feel we can go abroad, look into donor eggs or anything further than the IVF. It is definitely horses for courses, and we admire all those people out there who can leave no stone unturned. We don't feel we'd be strong enough to open that can of worms ever, not just now. If it didn't happen with IVF, we would be sad, but we'd be able to live with it due to having lots of nephews and nieces on both sides and fantastic godchildren. We are also very career driven and motivated. Everything happens for a reason, so we have made peace with whichever hand we are dealt with. Although a baby would be the icing on the cake!

/fedup sorry if your congrats werent acknowledged! Cor busy on here! mouse everything crossed lovely x Izzy my darling wizzy* nice to see you on here, good charting advice for sure :) at the waxed plucked chicken effect legs... know it well!! I had to rush shave mine yest after i had an apt to go for a swab!! They were long and no time for waxing

thanks spilt how are you today, feeling suitably pukey?

Do you think I should start OPKing tomorrow? (CD11) the earliest I've ever ov'd is CD13 but usually a lot later than that.

I've got lots of cheapies though, so I suppose no harm in starting early.