Charter's Anonymous: Volume 3, here's to better luck this time for us all!

Hi Terrys. I think you're still establishing the bi-phasic bit. If you look on your chart overlay you're at about same level as last month. I think the triphasic thing happens after implantation when the pregnancy becomes properly established and starts churning out hormones so you're a bit early yet.

If it continues to go up and gets to another level of higher in a few days then I reckon you're in business. Is something to look out for!

Spilt take a bit more time and when you do go back, be gentle to yourself for a bit. Talk to your boss and ease back in gently, maybe half/short days for a while. It does get easier, I couldn't concebtrate on anything at all for a couple of weeks, just showed up and went through the motions but been a lot better the last couple of weeks.

spilt When I had my MMC and EPRC in Feb I found I lost a lot of confidence at work. I didn't go through anything like as traumatic as you did but I was off for a couple of weeks in total and found that when I returned to work I was just too emotional to answer the phone.

I was meant to be on a hotline but had to keep taking myself off the phone cos I was so scared of taking a call. I think my emotions were just so near to the surface that i feared one stroppy customer would tip me over the edge.

I even told my supervisor that she'd have to sack me cos I just couldn't take calls. She was very good and said I could do other stuff for a while. People kept saying to me, "But you're such a confident person!" And I am, usually, but I just can't explain why I was knocked for 6 by the whole experience.

After my early spontanious loss 3 months later I was ok about going back to work, so i can't explain why I was so shocked the first time. All I'm trying to say, in a very waffly-way is - It is normal to feel like you do after such an upsetting experience. Take it easy and don't expect to just spring back and be like you were before, it all takes time. I don't think i felt 'right' for quite a while. Thinking of you and sending my love. XX

Only 5dpo LadyG but have been reading about triphasic patterns so just wondering when it might happen. Also had a massive temp spike today which sparked my interest.

Here is my chart

Mind you, DS was a monster last night so was up at 2am and 3am but took temp at usual time of 6.30am so it was after 3 hours sleep.

Varies but prob around 10-14 days ish? Mine shot up on day 14 after falling massively the previous day. What dpo are you? Are you seeing good signs?

I think I'm ovulating today so bit behind you!

Quick question - if your chart is going to go triphasic, when would this happen??

spilt deep breath! You will cope with everything but don't put pressure on yourself to do it, just take one day and task at a time. If anyone gives you s**t then either tell them off or send them round our way! Maybe phone the church and explain that you can't commit to this stuff ATM and will let them know when you can?

FWIW - I think you are doing fab!

I feel rubbish today - my voice is almost gone due to yucky cold.

I also have backache and a wave of nausea - surely not PG symptom as only 5dpo?!?!

Very Impressed at your lunchtime SWI-ing mousebacon, TBH although I really really want to conceive this month, if we do get lucky, I will be forever at how we did it, twas on Saturday, we were going out for eve so knew we'd be too knackered then so had to be a daytime thing but DS doesn't nap anymore so we put on a DVD, gave him a bowl of raisins and told him Mummy and Daddy had to "do some work" (he's almost 2)!!!

Brilliant. That gives me hope - we've always been in tune digi

Maybe the lunch hour SWI will do the trick xx

night night ladies xxx

mouse yes i do think I ovulated on the 60 dayer. Wasn't charting temps but had a pretty heavy and painful period at the end of it. Had already tested bfn so knew it was just a period. My anovulatory cycles tend to end with 4-5 days of light brown bleeding.

hippy - I do mean everywhere too - I got stuck in my summer ball dress - the zip got stuck, and the only lubricant we had was pre seed .... - DP nearly killed himself laughing when he had to try and squirt it down my zip to get me out

Ahhh you lot are bringing back memories for me - I remember the whole mooncup thing the first time around.

battery LOL - we just go ahead and smear it every where - mind you don't slip on that big splodge on the floor now!

ifatfirst looking back at my last cycle most of our timely swi happened in the morning followed by a 30-40 minute run. I know my bfp wasn't sticky but you really don't need a mooncup or to stand on your head.

oooh, so exciting with the brand-spanking new thread :) Hope it's a lucky one!

Well, I'm on CD7 so SWI officially starts today. We're taking the docs advice and SWI every other day from CD7 (with a bit extra thrown in on CD15 for good measure). At least that way, we can say that his theory ALSO failed when we go begging him for help in a few months!
Have no OPKs this month so it's down to good ol' fashioned charting. Although, I'm giving the CP a miss as I don't think I'm interpreting what I find very well and it's just confusing FF.

I scoured the internet for hours last night about other people's views on using a mooncup when TTC, until I realised that was an obsession too far and too expensive (at the moment anyway).

I'm necking the grapefruit juice daily now hoping that if what I hear is true, will help my lack of EWCM (any other tips ladies?)

I am absolutley dreading tomorrow. We go to meet SIL's new baby and I don't know if I can face it (but I cant not go). Everytime I picture DH holding the baby I start welling up :( I'm not looking forward to the questions directed at us either. I've already asked DH if he can divert the conversation if it seems to head that way!

Ah, fedup that poem made me cry. It'll be a month tomorrow since the mc and I honestly don't know where the time has gone.

Not sure what's going on with my WTF cycle. I thought I had ewcm in the last couple of days but I'd be amazed if I was ovulating this soon. digi do you think you ov'd on your 60 dayer?

Anyway, we've been SWI every couple of days since the bleeding stopped on the premise that if we're lucky that'd be great and if we're not then at least we gave it our best shot.

Loving the shiny new thread xxxxx

Limbo is never a good place!

I also keep telling myself why next month is a nice month for a birthday, for example:

June - is a rubbish month because I don't know anyone I really like with birthdays in June (no offence intended) Oops, just realised FIL, SIL and Stepdad's birthday in June. Oh well, still need to excuse it!
July - good month as its my bday but I wouldn't want to share it.
August - rubbish for parties as no-one is about.
September - no one has any money left for presents as they've just been on hols.
October - its getting cold.
November - Far too cold and DS is born in this month so don't want to have 2 in one month.

You get the picture!!

terrys crossed post - I too am doing different things to make myself feel in charge. I am going to have acupuncture twice a month then reflexology once a month (funds depending). I still haven't got my taste back for wine which is good, but I am trying to be healthy. :)

Dp and I have decided to go ahead and plan holidays next year so we have stuff to look forward to. Hopefully I Iwll pg by then but I can't live in limbo - it will drive me mad!

ArrrgggggHHH - just did a long post for craptop to delete it all....

digi - i too went for runs to get things going - I really believe that if I get back into my normal routine then my body will too. Good news about the naughty dreams :) it's always a good sign - I love having those dreams and then waking up and giving DP a nice wake up call xx

Who was asking about lube??? I have some conception lube stuff and we just go ahead and smear it every where - more is the way forward IMO :)

ladyg - glad you have got your positive opk - in which case you should not be reading this - you should be otherwise engaged

So can I have some advice please? Its 2 weeks today that I had a small show of blood but didn't have the ERPC till friday. I really think my body is gearing up to something. Is is too early? Or about right? I never have lots of CM anyway - but have definitely had some in the past 2 days. I will POAS tomorrow but if I am working up to someting - then I want to hold off till the weekend when DP is home :) my temps have settled as I have been more strict this week.

I am picking dp up from the station and instead of going shopping we are doubling back home to SWI - needs must!

digi I think that is definitely the best course of action, do something each month to try and make it happen so you feel a bit more empowered IYSWIM. I am trying to change one thing each month after not conceiving - this month it was buying a proper thermometer and next month I will be trying the food stuffs suggested. SWI-ing is all the rage too

I had lots of rude dreams about when I was PG last time. It was quite fun!

I am feeling impatient/optimistic/pessimistic/obsessed with "find charts like mine" on FF - does this sound about right for the 2ww?!?!

One week till AF due, FF reckons I should test until 18th November but sod that for a laugh - why else did I buy a pack of 20 PG tests?!!?

ladyggg Yes, am too impatient to wait too. But yet to decide whether we properly go for it, or just don't actually prevent it from happening.

Worked out that if my cycles followed the same pattern as last time: 60 day WTF cycle, followed by 40 day cycle. That's 3.5 months till I can do the blood tests. Then 10 weeks to wait for the results. So from now that's a 6 month wait. Can't imagine waiting that long. I don't think it's very likely we'll get a BFP in the first two cycles anyway, but if we try then at least I can feel like I'm doing something. Also, knowing that I have tests coming up will soften the blow when AF turns up.

And hip hip hooray to your 35 day cycles! Would be very pleased with cycles that length.

Sounds like you're doing all the right things, Digi. Hope the bleeding stops for you soon and hormones start to get back to normal. Are you going to SWI this cycle or wait? I was far too impatient to wait...

It's a good sign I reckon that you're eager to get back on DH