Charter's Anonymous: Volume 3, here's to better luck this time for us all!

cheapish on amazon, a couple of the ladies have bought 2nd hand ones or have caught a copy on ebay :)

spilttea both... thereisa big section on avoiding pg :)

Iwish i have started with opks twice or three times a day coming into fertile time (cheapies of amazon 30 for a fiver)sometimes picks up a surge after lunch or about 4pm ish - they may be cheap but they do tend to work. Second TCOYF - its fab!

Thanx split and mrsa for the advice, you have been so helpgul and all seem so lovely.

My cycles do seem fairly regular thankfully. I was panicking about there being no smiley faces, i must b a real worrier. I was doing them 1st thing in the morning which could be where I've been going wrong. I was thinking about the temping but it seemed all very confusing, if we don't get lucky this time I may have to reconsider. I hope my little egg hurries up, I think one of my symptoms of O must be sore boobs because they are sooo sore and were the same the past few cycles. I'll be keeping up the SWI, poor other half is shattered lol. it does seem 2 have taken ages and I am so impatient so fingers crossed. I'm not using fertility friend but I have heard it mentioned, might have a little nosey on there and have a nosey at the book. Sorry I can't contribute much at the moment, still trying 2 learn the lingo 2 :)

Thanks ever so much ladies, your knowledge is fab!! Much appreciated. I did think day 19, but now i know a little more about it, im hoping it helps be a little easier moving forward :)

MrsA how can you tell!?!? I think I would be worrying (moaning ) if they were all over the place too!!

I meant to say Nickster, i agree it looks like CD19. On FF I use the 'research' method of analysis, not 'advanced', as my temps are slow to respond to my hormones so that confuses the 'advanced' method and i always got dotted lines. Using 'research' it gives me full lines (and you don't need to be a VIP to use it).
Maybe give it a try.

Terrys you are a worrier like me I think! I really don't think it's anything to worry about yet. You could be having a cycle of stable temps or sleeping better is helping. Wait and see what happens and do try not to worry. (Am impressed you have found your cervix btw!)

Hi Iwish welcome. I know it must seem an age since you started TTC but don't forget, most couples do manage to conceive within 12 months. It took DP and I 12 months to conceive DD and we've been TTC No 2 since July.
IMO you're doing the right thing charting as I think I know why it took us so long with DD - I didn't chart and assumed I ov around 14-16 CD. I now know I ov between 18 and 23, so probably most of our SWI was at the wrong time. It was only at xmas 2007 when we said sod it and ate and drank LOADS and shagged when we wanted that we conceived on xmas day! Looking at my cycle length fro then I must have ov CD 24.

Sorry, I've rambled on there. Are you using fertilityfriend.com? That's very good to help you see your cycles. And the opks are only positive if the 2nd line is a strong one (unlike a pg test ). Your body may be trying to ov but the only way you'll know for sure is if you chart your temps.
I also recommend buying the book Taking Control of your Fertility by (name escapes me - someone else here will know). It opened my eyes and is a really easy read.

Gonna shut up now - mega post bored at work

nickster hello! I am not an expert on charting but slowly getting to understand it more. I would guess that, as LadyG says, your temps aren't consistent enough to provide an accurate coverline so I would go with the other signs - CM, OPK, cervix and assume CD19.

MrsA you do have beautifully neat temp rises!! Fingers are crossed!

I am getting very worried/confused about my temps - it was the same again today!? Has anyone else had this before??

My chart

Hi all. I'm new to ttc (now on cycle #4) and have been reading your posts over the last few days and just wondered if I could join and have a bit of a rant. We are ttc #1 and have figured it isn't that easy! Since coming off the pill I have had a 27 day, 25 day and a 26 day cycle. I haven't used opks or tracked bbt but have noticed i had ewcm cd12 or cd13 on those cycles. This month I tried opks and nothing, no smiley faces! I bought some tesco opks when the clearable ones were gone and have had a very weak test line on cd15/16 and today cd17. Would anyone have any idea what's goin on?? Apologies for the very long post. :o)

Morning ladies. 10 DPO and temps still up - the next few days will be critical as last cycle I went 12 DPO. Am trying to prepare myself for the disappointment of a temp plunge.
Am feeling a bit crampy today, like my body is gearing up for af - so hopes starting to go.

Ah well, acupuncture later today....

Keep your fingers crossed.
chart here

Hi girls! Hope you're all doing well! No time to read from the beginning. At work. You have been very busy chatting here. Good luck to all- will catch up at some point soon. Xxx

Thanks ladyG i managed to leave my thermometre in a hotel for the week before OV and was waiting for another! I try to do it at 6.45ish but like this morning i woke an hour earlier, so took temp as soon as woke is that right?!

I now have a stash of therms, bedroom, car briefcase just in case i lose one again!

I didnt want to override using the OPK primary sign as i wanted to try to start to understand the temps, and use those.. using the opk as a secondary factor.

I thought 19 too but FF was still saying no ov detected on day 22 which threw me! All the fertile signs (ewcm/cervix/twitchiness/jellylegs) i got on 18 and 19 and nothing since :)

Thanks for your help :)

I'd say day 19, Nickster. You've confused it because you haven't put in enough data in the run up and it's not sure where your baseline temps should be. You can override it by asking it to use OPK as primary sign if you like.

Are you consistent with what time you take your temps?

morning ladies,

I was wondering whether i may ask for some help with reading my chart please? I am a regular over on the MC/TTC thread and have only just started to temp this month so am a bit of a novice. Any help you can give me in actually pin pointing the ov date i would be very grateful. Pos OPKS on day 18 and 19 but the coverline has been put at OV day 21. Have to say a few days i tend to take the temp when i wake (rather than at exactly at the same time each day...courtesy of DS!)

Any tips or help anyone could offer, would help me tremendously

my chart this morning

Massive congratulations LadyGG, wishing you a healthy and happy pregnancy xx

Great news there digi!

So glad your docs were so supportive spilt, it is quite rare.

7DPO here and desperate for symptoms,but nada!

BTW today would have been the EDD for the little bean that didnt stick, and I don't feel too bad (I actually forgot until I saw my discreet little asterix on my calendar at work).
In hind-sight, it was really early, and some of you ladies have had such a horrendous time in comparison, so I've made sure that I didnt dwell on it too much.

spilt hope the chat with the doc went well. Phased return to work sounds very sensible.

Haven't looked at anyone's chart yet as too many peeps in the office right now, but will have a squizz later.

Terry I wouldn't worry too much - as i'm learning, every cycle is different. In the summer my cover lines were around the 36.1 mark but this cycle it's around 36.4. Perhaps the effect of better sleep is stabilising you.
And some people (and some cycles of the same person) are more influenced by inconsistencies.
My temps rarely go up just because I'm drinking and I once re-took my temp around 9am after taking my BBT in bed at 6.30am, by the book cos I was nosey and it was exactly the same, despite me getting up and getting myself and DD ready etc.

There is nothing you can do anyway, just keep relaxed (ha - easy to say) and focussed on CM and temp shifts, not actuals.

I'm trying not to obsess atm, am CD 31. It took me another 2 weeks to get bfp with DD. i hate this waiting!