Charter's Anonymous: Volume 3, here's to better luck this time for us all!

Hello all, can i join in? I posted on the conception boards up until a couple of months ago and have had a bit of a break since then.

I have started charting again this month but its not a great month to start charting though as my temps are all over the place due to an upper respiritory virus - seem to just be coming out of the other side now though.

I am backing up with a cbfm too and got the go ahead a couple of days ago so think either today or tomorrow should be 1dpo, one thing i havent missed is the two week wait!

Well will read back a few pages and try and keep up with you all every day, heres hoping it is a lucky thread :)

nix - hah! I wish I had 10 hours sleep every night. I am actually a bit of an insomnic (we've got a massive long insomnia thread going over on the mental health section, on which I am a regular!)

I think sometimes though it all catches up with me and I have these massive long binge sleeps! The night before last I only got about 3 hours Plays havoc with your charts, I tell you!

thanks re. the mech sex thing. It's rubbish isn't it? I hate it. Sex when you don't feel remotely turned on just feels wrong somehow. But I know it's a necessity Still, it's supposed to be our "on" night tonight (one night on, one night off) but my CM seems to have gone back to creamy, and only very slightly stretchy, so I don't think I can be bothered. Unless DH really manages something special!

I've ordered TCOYF from the library so am going to have a look at it - see if Toni can tell me anything I don't already know!!

Some depressing news from me also - just found out today that I am being made redundant The day before my birthday, and 10 days before Christmas - GREAT. Ah well, didn't exactly love my job anyway, but it's a bit of a pain money-wise.

Hi there Iwish had a look at your chart, it does look quite high in temp variation to me, but that's because I'm used to celsius, and I believe temps can look more spread out on a farenheit chart. I'm sure it's fine. Looks from your CM that your body is gearing up for ov. When do you normally ov roughly??

Hi all!

battery I hope your puddy tat is better after the v expensive vets bill!

mrsa I am rubbish at holding my wee/not drinking. I do my opk at 5pm when I get home from work (as well as one at 7am) and I can't drink from 12:00 otherwise I wouldn't make it home! . I hope you OV soon.

Thanks getdown. a lot of my friends have pics of their scans and babies on their FB too - jealousy is a horrible thing but I suppose it's only natural for us ttcers :). I hope your eggy turns up soon for you too.

Hi nix thanks :). I hope your work gets a little less stressful and you can spend time with your DS soon.

Hi mouse, split and battery. Hope you are ok today 'waves'

I hope I havnt missed anyone. Sorry if I have.

I was so excited when I got home from work - I had some stretchy but v watery cm! Must be a good sign. Still -ve opk though. Does my chart say anything to you guys or is it just boring?... my chart

Hi ladies, sorry for the absence..hotel with rubbish wifi!

Catch up properly!!

mouse fab you told DH of course he is delighted!!!!

spilt i am on serious knicker checking duty also!!! Very wet! Keep saying a little prayer every time i go to check!!

getdown sorry for the mech sex :( we too were having mech sex not much fun... you will get it back lovely. OPKs and temping will come together are you on long cycles? Do you know roughly when you should start/target swimmers? Thankfully (sorry this is not gloating) every time i have conceived i have shagged on day 18! and bam...i am not great with SFF normally and SWI for a reason!! Couldnt have coped for more than i needed to!! Poor DH!

Iwish sorry re the ttc buddy :( its horrid. My ttc buddy gave birth the day i got my bfp!! (and i had got pg/miscarried and got pg again during that time!)

spilt i like this fred too :)

getdown 10 hourse... gosh can i come and stay? Either you are worn out from SWI or you have ZEN! Gah lucky if i get 5 :(

Batt not good vet bill, is puss insured? What was wrong? did she have an op? any idea how it happened?!

I am fine, hideous couple of work days with stress upto eyeballs! Long day yest and 2 nights in a hotel :( poor DS doesnt get to see mummy so quite sad about that, especially as he slept really well last night... and i didnt GRR!!!

Ooh izz, Fedup MrsA and MrsB

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Am feeling quite festive as I finish work next Tuesday and am off for 2 weeks! Hopefully, that will take my mind off the 2ww
AF due around xmas day, so may have to sneak on here if I have good news!! [I can dream]

spilt sorry love, you posted too. How are you doing today??

Hi all,
I slept much better last night (10 hours ) thank goodness, so feeling a bit more positive today. It?s given me just a little bit of a dip on my chart though ?. I was very deeply asleep last night clearly!

Terrys what did you decide on the clearblue digis? Are you going to do one, or leave it? Sorry if I seemed a bit dismissive before. It?s just I know that if you do one, and it gives you a 1-2 week reading, it can be pretty depressing and leaves you wondering if something is wrong.

Iwish sorry to hear that your TTC buddy is proudly showing their 12 week scan pics. I can understand how you feel. There are loads of my FB friends who?ve got scan pics as their profile pic, or newborns in arms!! It?s hard. Your time will come, I?m sure it will.

battery - ouch re your vet bill!! And not what you need just before Christmas! When our dog cut her paw on a piece of glass the bill came to over £400! Thankfully she was insured, so we only had to pay the excess (still nearly £100 though!). I guess you just have to swallow these kind of unexpected bills, for a much loved pet.

MrsP what CD are you on now (sorry I can?t keep up!) Hope you are good, and feeling positive.

MrsA I?m with you on the waiting for ov thing. I ov?d on CD23 last cycle, but as it was a WTF cycle I thought that was the reason why it was late. Was hoping for CD14 or so this cycle but no joy so far. What I thought was EWCM also seems to have dried up today and is back to creamy and

I know what you mean about the tea drinking. I struggle to limit my fluid intake before an OPK too. I love my tea. I don?t know how much it affects things. Last cycle I got a positive at 2pm (after 4 hours holding my pee) and I did another one at 6pm () having NOT held my pee or limited fluid and I still got a strong positive. So maybe it doesn?t affect things that much after all?

Hoping for you that ov will show up soon. I would like to give up the OPKs too as I find them a bit of a pain TBH. Don?t know if I will though, as I don?t find my cervix or CM that reliable (or is it just me being v bad at interpreting them )

Anyway all, hope you are all ok. Sorry for missing people out, just gone with the most recent posters. xxxx

Ouch battery that's gotta hurt!

Waves at evferyone - too many on the thread now to name check all but hi all and hope everyone feeling OK.

spilt what you said about Bobbie and your new pg was very moving and very understandable. Do not feel guilty or bad - you will never forget Bobbie. Life finds a way.

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No ov yet, though still getting sharp ov pains but then have done for the past few days. Sigh, gonna be another long cycle methinks.

I'm really bad at not drinking tea or liquids - does it really affect opks that much? I may stop using them after this cycle and just rely on CM and temps.

Hey everyone. Wow you have been so talkative! Only time for a quick post at the moment, just wanted to say I'm glad that your scan went well mouse and fingers crossed for the next one. X

Hello all - I have not got the stregnth to name check - I am in shock at the £325 vet bill I have just been handed. Now I need to go and lie down in a dark room.

Haha yeh I am starting to get excited about putting SWI on my chart! I was quite happy with myself this morn when I put last nights SWI on my chart with my temp! What strange people we are. I just keep telling myself that yes we are doing it because we have to today but when I do fall pg we will just do it if and when we want to - makes me feel better knowing we are doing it to start our own little family (....drifts off into a little baby's first Christmas dream world)

Well my ttc buddy has just proudly shown her 12 week scan . We started ttc together and she get pg in month 2. Love her but I'm sooo jealous I just want to cry. (or leap inside my own flipping body, sperm in hand and shove it into my flipping egg myself!)

Hi terrys I can't believe you are still POAS. I remember way up the thread there when you got your first +ve. :)

step away from the clearblue digi's Terrys!!! This is the path to hair pulling despair!

They are quite notoriously unreliable, and if you still get the dreaded 1-2 weeks pop up, it will cause untold worry, probably for nothing

You are pregnant, you are pregnant, you are pregnant

GetDown not POAS since yesterday - what ultimate willpower I have!!

But speaking of POAS ladies - as I am technically 4+3 today and its been 17 days since OV, do you think that if I do a clearblue test tomorrow it would say "pregnant 2-3 weeks"? The last time I did one was on Thursday and it said "1-2 weeks". I really just want to see some change in something!!

thanks all, you are so kind It's lovely to be able to talk to people on here that really know what it's like.

It's not something you can easily drop into conversation with your RL friends is it??!!

Just had my work christmas lunch, Had to sneak out half way through to do my OPK. Despite saving up my 4 hour pee it's a definite negative.

So looks like our SWI effort last night may not have counted for much anyhow...

MrsA thanks for your kind words. Glad to hear you have plentiful EWCM you go girl!! Hope that ov is imminent, sounds like it. I don't know how you managed every night, even every other night is proving a struggle for us at the moment. Hope this is your month.

spilt thanks for understanding. that your MIL temped for the whole 9 months with her pregnancies!! WHY??!

terrys will do re the special cuddles. Just being together and enjoying each other's company must be the way to go. Don't worry about your symptoms coming and going I think that is very normal in early pregnancy. The hormones fluctuate a bit I think, and sometimes you just don't notice the symptoms. Well done for not temping! Are you still POAS??

Iwish you have summed up how I feel - crying when you do it and you don't want to, and crying when you don't do it and think you ought to. It's such a funny set of emotions. I really WANT to WANT to do it, IYSWIM. My mind wants to do it, but my body just is not playing! But for me it becomes a bit of an academic thing - SWI would be good on my chart today, rather than, let's have a lovely intimate evening with DH. And I know that is wrong. But I guess this is the level of obsessiveness I have reached.

Waves to hippychick how are you love>?

Anyway, will stop rambling now. Need to digest my work Christmas lunch

I'm at work so can't read all the mad rambling of you lot but just scanned down to check on mouse - good news lovie.

Still very early so what they saw sounds fine. Good luck for next scan. bye for now. Thinking of you all. XX

My word you are a busy bunch, so hard to keep up :).
Hi battery & split I havnt got any other charts as I was rubbish at recording anything the past 4 months. I did notice a little bit of ewcm on cycles 1-3 but nothing on #4 and noticed cervix changed from low closed and hard to medium open and soft in all cycles. Today it's a lot softer than yesterday and quite open, fingers crossed its a good sign but still -ve opk.

getdown I know what you mean about Struggling with SWI. We havnt been ttc long - now on cycle 5 but on cycle #2 and #3 the fact that we were doing it because we needed to really hit us. I cried when I didn't want to do it but did do it and cried when we didn't do it but should have done. DP feels the pressure too as we aren't the ones who dtd loads. I always feel better after a rant and a cuddle with DP. Hope you feel better about it soon.

I hope you are all ok today. Hope all you pg ladies are feeling suitably sick and have sore boobs. And all you ttcers are making eggys . I have been reading all your stories and posts and you have made me laugh and cry!

spilt are you still temping?!!? Naughty naughty - I'm sure you were one of the ones who told LadyG off for that?!!? I haven't temped since the weekend !

PS - I like this thread better than the AN one. Is it just me ?!?!

Morning all.

GetDown no need to apologise, we have all done it and I think its part and parcel of this stressful / enjoyable / consuming process. As MrsA said, maybe try and make tonight specifically about not SWI-ing and focus on everything else - kisses, cuddles and being together. I hope you get that spike soon!

You too MrsA I hope you are OV-ing today. I think a 32-34 day cycle is not too long so don't be too disheartened, hopefully it will mean a nice sticky LP for you!

mouse so pleased your DH was happy and shocked - just the right reaction! Love the positive attitude!

LadyG hope MiniG gets better soon. Am I the only bad mother who sometimes, a little bit, enjoys when DS is ill (not really ill, just under the weather) as he is super cuddly and will snuggle rather than trying to get away from me so he can play?!?!

Nix hope you got a good nights sleep! Or that you are still in bed now.

spilt this new bump will never replace Bobbie and although it wouldn't exist if it weren't for what happened to Bobbie, I think it makes Bobbie more amazing - for existing in her own right but also for making your new bump possible, and your new bump amazing for just being IYSWIM? Although you didn't get to enjoy Bobbies life, outside of you, she was still your baby and you will have the honour of being a mother to two beautiful babies. Hope that makes sense!

I had sore breasts this morning - woo hoo, but gone now . Remind me of this no symptom complaining if I am back (hopefully) in a few weeks complaining about having symptoms!!

Have a good day all.

Getdown I would give you a slap, except you don't deserve one! Totally understand where you are coming from. I am on cd22 and still no +opk, although EWCM is now a bit too plentiful ! so I'm hoping for a temp rise soon. My temps dropped this morning, hoping that's a sign ov is imminent.

What I've found is that since TTC, my cycles are started to become very long, almost as iif my body is reluctant to ov. Even if I ov today, I'm likely to have a 32-34 day cycle.
It is so very hard to keep SWI on demand. Like you, we are SWI every other night as we did the every night last cycle and just could not manage it again - it became mechanical and depressing. Like you, outside my fertile window, I find myself in the mood easily.

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It sounds like you are tired and a bit down waiting for ov. But it also sounds like you have a supportive DH and if you are SWI every other night, then tonight get to bed early - have a nice no-pressure cuddle and kiss and reconnect and keep trying just for a bit longer.

You are not alone - I feel the same - up until this morning, EWCM was limited so things can change in the course of a day. Is there any chance of a nap today to make you feel better?

Sorry for not name checking all - hello to all and mouse I am so pleased it sounds like you are on a positive road - your DH sounds like a star!
Everyone keep fingers crossed for all of us still TTC and for those pg, hoping your symptoms are coming hard and fast.

[fbear] for you all!

Hi ladies I wonder if you would forgive me for a self indulgent mope.

CD14 still no positive OPK, cervix is stubbornly low and firm, and I?m really really struggling with the SWI! Poor DH doesn?t know if he?s coming or going

Trying to do the ?every other night? strategy, but I am knackered and I don?t know if I can keep going Was so tired last night. We went to bed at 10 but I just could not get in the mood at all. DH was ok, it was me. Ended up getting there but it just felt so mechanical, and it was not enjoyable at all. DH and I had a little cuddle and I ended up sobbing Why can I just not feel like it, when it?s the ?right time?? (I don?t seem to have a problem at other points in my cycle when the pressure?s off IYSWIM).

Ended up having a totally rubbish night?s sleep as a result. Awake till 3:30am then up again at 6:30 for work. So of course temps are up the spout today. Feel really defeated, tired, and demoralised today. Do you think we should just have a break, at least until I get a positive OPK, or should we just try and carry on with the every other day strategy? I don?t know what to do anymore. Just feels like a horrible gambling game, like if we stop we might miss our chance, but if we carry on, well? I just don?t know if I can.

Somebody come and give me a slap! I don?t know what?s the matter with me