Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome (Part 7)

Hi all congrats to inbetweener!

I'm going the whole hog this month with OPKs grapefruit jiuce, pre-seed and the like.

Just wondering if anyone can help me or give advice on my chart here ?

This is a post MC cycle and I've noticed a temp dip on CD 12 (am now on CD15) ... do you think this dip could be HCG finally leaving my system?

Or do you think it's just random?

Just torturing myself over when (if) ov. is going to happen this cycle. I ov'd on CD 16 last month, but with the MC I am assuming it will be later, but no idea what this dip on my chart might mean....

Any thoughts much appreciated xx

Thanks owlboots I am silently beating myself up over them I can tell you. Really i know it should be fine but every bloody twinge I am convinced that AF is going to appear.
I have now started getting " pains " down below and while the sensible part of me knows its probably the normal early pg symptoms I am absolutely terrifed AF will appear again.

Oh if it helps anyone I also drank the revolting graprefruit juice this month but more importantly and crucial I suppose, the only thing we did different was have sex nearly EVERY night for a month bar about three lol !!!!!!!

Oh and YRMOTB dont forget I tested BFN just two days ago ! It has taken me till I am 5 days over to get a faint BFP.

Hiya Folks!

Thanks for all your kind wishes. I am surprisingly ok about the BFN. I had my full on sobbing, snivelling wreckage last week, so don't feel too bad today. On the other hand I have bought Agnus Castus, Vitamins E B12 an B6 to add to my repertoire and a salivary OPK test, so perhaps subconsciously.. I did contemplate the evil shag dictator and grapefruit juice, but perhaps not this month.

I have finally booked the church hall for ds's bday on Sunday 28th, also due date.I am excited to plan it now!

owls that looks like the best way to enjoy grapefruit juice, IMO.

ladybee sorry about the temp dip, but it's not a sustained one yet, so there's always room for a tiny glimmer of hope! Hope minibee lets you have a semi relaxing day. It's quite nice out, albeit cold. A day for gloves and scarves and running round in the park!

I had a few yeses at that quiz nix and mummya

Hope you're all well. Big hugs to those who need, and sticky dances to those who need them. And love to all. Mwah!

Woo-hoo inbetweener !!!! That's fab news . Here's to an uneventful 8 months!

YRMOTB sorry about the bfn. Hopefully it too is a slow burner...

Phew - it's a bit of a rollercoaster on this thread at the minute isn't it? I think you're right though AandRmum , if we end up with a baybee at the end of it, whether it's taken a month, or six months, or a year, we'll look back on this time in a few years just like a blip. Fx we'll all be there by then.

inbetweener congratulations! Gosh it must all feel a bit wobbly at the mo, but it is something to celebrate. I am really pleased for you!!! xxxxx

LadyB I am sorry you are suffering due date blues. Its rubbish that you have more than one too!! Its so difficult to suffer in increments like this, telling yourself "it will be better if I'm pg by my birthday/duedate/xmas" etc and then watching each milestone slip by. I really hope you get some renewed strength soon, like you said you always bounce back, lets hope the next upward spiral is just around the corner. xxx

Nix I had more YESes than you, had the blood test and turned out not to have PCOS! So, do you ever get more than one LH surge in the month? Are you going to ask for blood tests? I read on another thread that Posh Spice has PCOS. I am not sure what we can learn from that but thought I would throw it in.

owl I am going to join you on the grapefruit juice experiment while in the UK. I cant get it over here!

suspenders still on for YRMOTB and Pink and any other lurkers at testing time. xxxx

I did battle with the costa rican beuarocrats yesterday and am off for round two today. I need about 5 ton of paperwork in order to be able to take DS out of the country. Its only a slightly smaller amount than it took me to get him in The thought of great tea and roast potatoes is spurring me on.

But then I'd have to drink twice as much liquid which would all taste of grapefruit

Maybe I should drink it in the evening instead, mixed with vodka like this

Vodka is a TTC-friendly thing, right?

owls it does work doesnt it.....? its better mixed with fresh orange. I am abstaining this month due to the effects on my CM! want to see what it does naturally iykwim

babes lovely girl...... :( perhaps its too early xxxxxx x sending burrowing thoughts in case it is xxxxx

HUGE congrats inbetweener!!! Hurray Hurray!
Really hoping for a nice and boring 8 months, and that you get nice and sicky soon.

Thanks AandRmum, my DH said something similar last night - along the lines of: "oh when we've got 4 DCs tearing around the house creating mayhem we'll look back on now and think it was only a blip" 4??

Yeah! betweener so delighted for you....& just a llittle bit glad not to be on my own in limbo land.... No real symptoms either not particularly tired, no sore boobs, just some funney feelings down below!

(((((((BIG HUGS TO EVERYONE)))))))
really feeling for everyone struggling at the moment fx for some more good news very soon XXXXXXX

Thank you all for your kind words. I felt like it wasnt the most appropriate time to announce my BFP this morning so thank you

ladybee I had the absolute same at the weekend. I was convinced AF was on her way becuase I had back pain, cramps and a BFN. I even had 2 vodka and tonics on saturday night I was so sure ! I am shitting myself about those now !!So dont give up. As someone else said to me, it clearly isnt over until she arrives !

Good lord, all sorts going on in here.

Another massivehuge hug for Hairy x

Bee sorry you're feeling crappy. Hope today isn't too bad - and that you get the chance to treat yourself and MiniBee to take your mind off it.

YRMOTB bugger @ the evil BFN.

Inbetweener Whoop! Well done you & may you have the most boring uneventful 8 months ever :)

PFF and Nix I too would be hesitating over the 'chinese herbs' after all, what exactly are they? Maybe if you knew what they actually were you could at least look them up online. I'm currently trying to avoid too much woo as I figure I got prg without it last time. Having said that I have tried out the grapefruit juice this month just for the hell of it. It does seem to have worked, astonishingly, although seriously drinking it first thing in the morning.

Wow what an explosion of messages - babe fx for a late implantation.

wombat here is hoping your zen returns soon. Months feel like a lifetime at the moment but I am hoping that when we all look back this will just be a small moment of sorrow and torment in a lifetime of family and joy.

A&R interestingly i have a friend who ttc for years post car accident (bent tubes/blocked etc) and struggled with failed IVF.... so she changed her husband and now has 2 naturally conceived children!

pink just to add to the chinese herb stories - my DSis took them along with acupuncture and swears by them. She tried for a year or so to get pregnant with number DD1 and had a failed IVF but conceived naturally on the next cycle (interesting concept of higher fertility after IVF?!).

Despite this story I just can't bring myself to take them. I struggle taking anything stronger than a paracetamol and even think twice about that though?!

Betweener how wonderfully exciting whilst I understand your caution I just have to whoop and holler ...........

My DD1 has just toilet trained DD2 - I came downstairs to find DD1 wiping DD2's bottom after her having done her first poo on the loo!!!!

inbetweener that's brilliant news! See? It was just a slow burner, maybe it implanted late so took a while for those hcg levels to rise. Who knows the main thing is you are on the next step on your journey - hooray!!!!!

Thanks ladies for the hugs and warm words, it does help. You understand so well - right down to tiny little voice saying "maybe they'll go back up"

I don't think they will though, I can feel that deep heaviness in my back that normally sets in the day before. Sigh.

I wonder if I should do anything different this cycle? Maybe I'll add in grapefruit juice. Thing is, I don't think there's much wrong with my cycle, maybe a little short on the luteal phase but still over 10 days. Guess it's still v early - getting pg quickly after mc 1 this year has obviously made me have too high expectations this time.

Sorry youremindme

Big hugs bee. You sum it all up so well.

Hugs also to yrotb sorry about the bfn.

Huge congrats to Inbetweener!!! I'm for you and a little bit and for myself. It's a weird emotional rollercoaster this TTC after MC thing. I really hope you have a very smooth and stress-free 8 months!

Hello to everyone else xxx

hola! Just a quicky to say tested this am and a bfn. Congratulations to inbetweener though! Back sfter lunch for proper postage x

fondant just had a friend update on the chinese herbs. She says took them for 6 months during the last IVF cycle (so i lied) and that was the difference in her opinion and hence she now has a DD.

thought i would share it... off to do some pretend work

Wednesdays List

Lottiecrump UCL 27/30
cheepz TTC#2 (round 4) UCL30
Littlemiss72 TTC#1(post MC#2) UCL 30 BFP!!
PrettyVacant1 TTC#1 Cycle 6 (round 7)UCL 28-31
Loola2shu TTC#3 Cycle 2 (post nmc#1) ucl??? (PCOS) CD58
Freezingmyarseoff TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL28 CD53
DachshundsRule TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL28 CD45
getawiggleon TTC#2, MC#1, UCL28, CD42
MamaPower TTC#1, cycle 4 (post MC#2) UCL 25- 27 CD38
urbanlolly TTC#2 Cycle 1 (post MMC) UCL29 BFP!!
youremindmeofthebabe TTC#2, Cycle 3 UCL33 CD34
Inbetweener TTC#3 Cycle 3 UCL 29 CD32 BFP!!
pinkfondantfancy TTC#1, cycle 3, UCL 28 or 35 CD30
Jamface TTC#2 cycle 3 (post MC#2), UCL 27 CD28
LadyBee TTC#2, cycle 3 (round 3) UCL27 CD25
velvetcu TTC #1 Cycle 3 UCL 35, CD23
sunchild77 TTC#3 cycle 5, UCL 24-28, CD23
KnitterNotTwitter TTC#2, (round 3) cycle 2 UCL 30 CD22
Tunnocksteacake TTC #2, cycle 1, UCL28 CD19
Nickstermum TTC#2 cycle 2 post MC UCL 30-40 CD16
GetDownYouWillFall TTC#2 Cycle 1 (post MC#1) UCL 27 - 44 CD13
Tigger15 TTC#2 cycle 20 UCL24-9 CD13
choccybick TTC#1 (post mc1) cycle 4 UCL 27 CD10
kat2504 TTC#1, cycle 3 UCL 26-28 CD9
RunForTheHills TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL28 CD9
Wombat33 TTC#1 Cycle 2 (post MC) UCL 31 CD7
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy TTC#3 cycle 4 UCL26-30 CD6

WTTC
hairytriangle
Sillyness TTC#1 post MC1 WTF cycle
Jollster TTC #2, MC3 conf 16th Aug
BackOnceAgain TTC#3, MC 17th Aug
Shitforbrains TTC#3, MC 1st Sep
Sarahmia TTC#2, MC2
MummyAbroad TTC #2,(MMC#1 31 Mar, ERPC 7 Jul), Ashermans Op 16 Nov
? KT
Mousebacon TTC#2 MC#1 4th Oct WTF cycle
barrenbrook TTC#1, MC#4 Oct 2010
Lemonsherbet TTC #1, ERPC 15 Oct 2010, WTF cycle
Jollster WTTC#2 after 3MMC
Batteryhen MC conf Oct 2010
Digitalgirl TTC#2, MC#3 Oct 2010
HidingInTheBackRow TTC#1 MC#1 Oct 2010

MIA
pippaandpolly
Honeywitch TTC#1
Curlylox TTC#3
delilahbelle TTC#1
Pinkie08 TTC#3 UCL 30

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I have updated (whoop, first time) hairy i have moved to WTTC, i hope you dont mind.

between fantastic! Well done :) great news

Morning all,
hairy I am so so so sorry. It must be devastating to have to go through this again. Im so sorry.

pink and izzy I hope both of you get your BFP's soon too I really do. You both deserve a break and some of that good luck to come your way.

Well I am 5 days late with AF now and feel very lucky and blessed to say I had a BFP this morning. It was faint with a FR but it was there.
I have no idea why its so late to show and I have no symptoms to speak of, no sore boobs, no AF cramps nothing so I am being cautious and just waiting to see what happens.

Sorry pink it doesnt make sense. Wait to see if your AF arrives, if it does then start, and if it doesnt Chinese herbs wont matter!!!!! xx

fondant 8.30 into central london not good.... i had a 9.30am meeting in bristol yesterday (from cheshire) but i think yours topps mine

Sorry lovely i meant to post about the chinese herbs and forgot total lack of commitment i see!

My friend who had fertility problems, was undergoing IVF and she started with acupuncture whilst she was doing it. She too was given chinese herbs to take (no idea waht they were but it was a big joke amongst us that if she concieved the baby would have to have a chinese name!) Ironically she did conceive with that cycle (she had been trying for years, never even had a late AF, temped for years.... then had 5 attempts at IVF and 2 MC's followed by a DD now age2) , but she did MC that cycle...she did go on however to have a little girl via IVF.
She always wondered, was it the herbs or was it the acupuncture that helped! Didnt do her any harm at all.... she had already had 1 MC before starting to take the herbs so didnt think they contributed.

Does that make sense? a long story condensed down!!

Interestingly what they say about IVF is that its accumulative, in that the more you do it the greater the chance of conception. She was told by specialists due to elevated FSH level, that the chance of successful conception was only 5% so she was quite prepared to try anything!

Why dont you wait to see if your AF arrives, and if it doesnt then start? Its perhaps not something you need to take if conceived?
If you arent pg could the acu be having an effect on cycle?

any news babes?