We're taking the train...some now boarding, some delays, some still standing on the platform! TTC 'Waiters' IIT!

Morning All!
hope that everybody is having a good Wednesday. Almost half way through the working wekk - hurrah!!!!

well done for loosing more weight nannyl. Also awesome that you will be TTC in 4 weeks - that time is going to FLY

Having a fabby day today. S'my birthday and have already been spoilt rotten by DH and that's even before our surprise supper tonight. Am a very lucky lady!!!

Just got to get through the morning until wine at lunch with the girls :)

eveing all
very of you both on your 2WW. Wishing you both the best of luck though , and next month it will (fingers crossed) be me on my 2ww!

AC sorry to read that you OH is being silly... cnat get how having a baby is loke having a porsch?

I had a pretty rubbish day yesturday, and so did OH, but today has been much better.

Our kindergarten class are running a cake sale for children in need on Friday (whole school invited!!!!) so we have been baking all day and its been great fun

I only lost 1lB last week but considering i went out for dinner twice (italian and indian) and had fish N chips from the chippy im happy. Thats 5lb gone now and im being very good and fingers crossed i might make it to half a stone next week?

Im only being super good until Im TTC so that fact its only 4 more weeks with a definite end in sight is helping me stick to it more i think.

Heya allbebe I really quite like the "Looney Express" title......... Sod the other NMers who look don't on us for chatting about waiting. Is it any more mad then 32 threads about the delights of RPatz?!?!? (don't get me wrong, I'm all for appreciation fothe male form but 32 threads.....!!!)

WhyWait, well we want to buy a house next year and if this whole TTC thing works out then we will have a bambino coming at some point, so next year is a no anyway, so it's either the following year or beginning of 2013, which although that sounds FAR away, it actually isn't. We will be having it somewhere quite far away from where we live now, because we have more friends up north than around here, so that's going to make a bit of a scene when I tell family, but it is OUR wedding and we will chose where we want :)

Excellent news about sharing my 2WW, lets cross our fingers together.

That's part of the reason a necklace suits me better, I am trying to lose weight, I would a) have to get it specially made to fit me now, then resized when I have lost some weight and possibly resized again, it's mucho pain in the arse, and I can wear my necklace and not lose it if I lose weight.

I like the title, but by calling it the looney express are we not just playing into the hands of the people who call us looneys?

Mmm unblocking the loo, that sounds just flipping great - NOT I remember having to help do it a few times when I used to live in the countryside. Never flush anything other than tissue and body functions down the loo now.

Possibly?

Waiting, TTC, duffed up we're all In It Together, the journey from eggs to babies.

Thanks JS, Sanity may need to be kept. OH keeps pointing out that no matter what we do with regards to the wedding side of things there will be someone who will either disagree, get offended, make 'better suggestions' etc etc etc, I kind of think we should run away LOL

How are you doing?

morning 100
Very exciting times for you what with the 2WW and the engagement announcement!!! We'll all keep you sane in the next 2 weeks and I am keeping everything crossed for you that you fall this month!

I wouldn't worry about the mixed reactions to your engagement symbol. As long as you love it, it doesn't really matter. I think whatever you have people will always have something to say about it!!!

Morning all.

Sorry to hear about your DH AC and his comments. Hope you can talk it through properly at some point.

Congrats on the job jbells, hopefully you can get a few extra hours as well. I know it's horrible to talk about things some times, but glad you managed to.

Quod sorry about your dog :(

I'm pretty sure I have now passed (note passed and not missed we have been DTD) my window of opportunity for conceiving now although my temp isn't showing it, so I don't fecking know, I must admit due to shift work temping isn't the most successful thing for me.... unless of course I haven't ovulated yet, but (TMI alert) I had EWCM last week and loads on Saturday and none now, so unless (and I know it can happen with iregular cycles) I'm going to get it again then I am probably in my 2WW. It's kind of weird to think if I have ovulated then there is possibly a little egg and sperm combo hopefully making it's way to it's future home, and there is nothing I can possibly do to help it along, but also likewise there could be nothing and I could be getting AF in 2 weeks. Man alive I want it so badly.

Anyway, we have now made an official announcement about the engagement so I can wear my necklace and show it off :) I've had mixed reactions to the fact I've not got a ring, but I don't care, because it's a personal preference. Sadly though the camera doesn't take a good picture of it so I can't put one up to show you.

Names for the new thread???

I think In it together needs to be the main part of the thread, do you agree?

I was sorry to hear about your dog too Quod, they are like one of the family aren't they? So sad for you.

No no no don't worry look at all the other threads on this and you'll see that you have to time these tests just at the right second of the day when you ov or you can blink and miss it.

AC the Porsche comparison is ludicrous if you don't mind me saying. It's not at all similar in any way! Hence why very few people have Porsches and a great many people have children...

My DP actually quite loves the idea of us having kids. It's just the point of that turning into a reality! He's so caught up in this career thing that has been his raison d'etre for his entire adult life that he can't really countenance anything getting in the way of that going as well as it can do. Short sighted in my opinion but there you go. Am going to try getting him to read The Terrible Book of Infertility Nightmares aka Baby Hunger instead cos I have definitely thoroughly absorbed the point.

JBells that is really positive news about your midwife, must be so reassuring.

Going to be a really sad few days for me - found out today that my parents have decided that it's time for one of my now very old dogs to be put to sleep - she's stopped eating and is 'fading away' apparently. I'm going down to see them tomorrow to be there when it happens on Wednesday. Gutting - we've had her since I was 17.

thanks AC- i do feel really fortunate that i will have the same midwife who dealt with my aftercare from having DD, she even wants to me to ring her when i my apt thru for hosp so she can come and speak to consultant with me i am so happy to have someone on board that knows exactly wot i went thru last time, how r things with u and dP, i do feel like mn can become addictive but so can facebook, and computer games and stuff, my DP shows no interest in MN i know he thinks facebook is for loosers tho so he prob has the same opinion on this lol

Hi JBells. That's really good news about your midwife. Sorry you had to be reminded of your previous bad experience but it's good that you get to talk it over with a professional who understands what you're talking about and knows you.

Good news about the job as well and hopefully you can find something else to go with it, or it will grow into something more. Lucky train!

evening all

hope everybody is doing well, went to see my midwife today to see how i go about changin hospitals, i was pleasantly surprised to see it was the midwfe who dealt withmy after care and therefore is very understanding of the way im feeling as she knows wot i went thru as regards to the swab infections etc, sad to say but i hadto hold back the tears when speaking to her as it bought the whole thing back to me

DD also had 2 injections today felt so guilty and had to hold back my tears then to :(

been catching up on the insane asylum, my DP wud prob agree that i need a white coat lol

AC- has your DP had bad week and mayb he is just venting at u? i do agree with quod everyone has a rite to change there mind i mean im sure there are people who have said they want 4 kids and then decide to have none for some reason, i have heard good things about RELATE couples councelling and it is free aswell they have a website online that u can see what ones are in the local area, hope your interview goes well

strawberry- wow a powerboat course congrats wot an xciting thing to do

bebe- i am glad that convincing DH to start ttc agen soon is looking more positive

oh cant remember wether i sed or not but got offered the job but the bad news is it isonly 5.5 hrs on a sunday i thought it was 4 hrs sat and 4 hrs sunday, but atleast its work will have to look for something else aswell, im trying DD with goats milk from now on to c if it helps with her mucus build up

Quod you are indeed very wise. I would find this very hard without all of you guys to buoy me up when things get choppy. There are certainly a fair few loons on MN but they're not on this thread and I'm grateful for all the support I get from you guys.

I think reading anything along the lines of baby hunger is not a good idea for me. I can't do any more than I am doing to move this along so except for leaving DH and looking to take up with a more family orientated chap (looney MN advice) or tricking DH into fatherhood (looney MN advice), or striking out on my own with a sperm donor (I think that one was from Opera!) I just have to live with the risk that I'll run out of time and cope with having no timetable to plan career decisions around.

You and your DP seem to be similarly minded to us. I do agree with DH that this isn't perfect timing for career, money, property purchase, etc, and I'm completely in agreement about the fear factor, not feeling ready and can't quite get my head around it. Where we differ, and where I suspect you and DP differ is on risk aversion/tolerance. I don't want to gamble, whereas DH is quite happy to. Weird that you compared it with footbal etc. DH compared my obsessing about DC with him having a hypothetical obsession about buying a Porsche 911 and insisting on getting one even though it would quite obviously bankrupt us.

When I was charting I was terrified I wouldn't be ovulating. I'm still not 100% sure that I was. My inclination is to put my reservations about ttc aside so as to avoid the risk of (particularly secondary) infertility.

Good to hear positive feedback about counselling. I got the number for Relate today. Now just to broach it with DH.

Well said Quod!!

I think that couples counselling could be a really good route to go down AC. If he thinks that you need counselling for your participation in a "lunatic cult" then he is obviously an advocate of it and so should have no reason to be against couple counselling.

I was totally against the whole "therapy" thing until I was told that I had to go by my family when i was having a really awful time a few years ago and I can really vouch for the benefit of it. It's pretty horrible at the time but it certainly help to talk about problems (whatever they may be)

Can't believe that this thread is nearly finished...... perhaps the next one should be renames the TTC Asylum!!!

Ooh AC your DH makes me cross, but probably because he shares some of the traits of my DP. You can't help it if you are thinking a lot about having children, it's not like you're purposefully refusing to stop thinking about it! And surely it's better for you to have some outlet (ie MN) to talk about those frustrations, if, like me, your partner resents 'having to talk about it all the time'.

WRT your agreement, surely part of any marriage/relationship is that you allow for the fact that your partner may change over time? It seems unrealistic to me to think you can know that you'll never want children any more than you could 'know' that you'll never want to quit the city and move to the country, or any other big life change. Couples counselling doesn't sound like too bad an idea in my opinion, at least it would guarantee you a time/place to discuss all this in full and work through it, rather than feeling (as I often do) that you are asking for a massive favour just to discuss your feelings and something that is important to you?

DP and I had a similar argument over the weekend; I'd been reading Baby Hunger (don't do it, it's terrifying) and so was thinking about the issues of how late we leave TTC and the fact that we're currently allowing work to take priority, which all my instincts are telling me is wrong-headed. He's at the point where work is taking up so much of his head/life/our house and time together that he just doesn't have space to think or talk about anything else. So he resents me trying to have conversations about TTC, and I resent his work! At least we've got it all out in the open now. And we're going away together for a month (hurrah) over Xmas so we'll finally have much needed space and time to talk properly.

My point is I suppose that if this is what we are thinking about a lot, then this is what we are thinking about and they need to help and support that thinking, even if it's a difficult for them, rather than requiring us to do some sort of bizarre and impossible mind control. MN is neither here nor there. Why is it OK to be 'obsessed' with all sorts of other things (football, work, F1, playstation etc) but if a woman is 'obsessed' about child-bearing then obviously she is irrational and hysterical, even though it's the single biggest thing which will impact your life, and therefore worthy of a lot of thought!? Grrrrrr!

Rant over, as you were.