More ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

We haven't actually finished EMSp yet - you're met to one for luck a day after your 3 in a row... I am fed up of shagging, and can't really see the point. Do I have to?

I ended up with my mid-cyle pain the day after I got a pos on the opk - the day of the pain was pos too... I didn't bother to test after that. This is the first month I've used opks, but I've usually managed to swi up to the mid-cycle pain, so really the only difference with teh emsp is that with the 3 in the row, I got the day before the pain, the day of AND the day after.

This is interesting though... althought the day of my mid cycle pain moves and arhas been cd13, 14 or 15 - my cycle is always 26 days long - that shouldn't happen should it?

As for EMSp - my review is that is knackering. It makes you start SWI on cd8, and every other day, but as I didn't get a pos opk to cd14, the swi on cd8 and cd10 can't possibly have heped - and the swi on cd12 was probably a waste of time.... not that I mind shaggin my husband... but y'know what I mean

Unless you think the earlier SWIs get the sperm quality up??

Anyway, it's meant to be one for luck tonight... but I don't see how it could possibly be that lucky... unless it is for some implantation sperm??

Am I the only person who doesn't do pg tests? I have never tested - but AF always comes on day 26 anyway....

muchlove - I have been dreaming about babies too.... I think it just means we're obsessed with babies....

Oh come on egg!!!! I was feeling quite smug too about my day 12 ovulation last month;I have no patience! I'm sure work have been putting something in my (decaff) coffee to postpone it - with my history of hyperemesis,and usual signing off,it would really leave them in the lurch if I got pregnant this month (busiest time and all).

Muchlove what a lovely dream,the sort you feel cross that you have to wake up from! They say you have the opposite sex to that which you dream about though has always been the opposite for me! Oh and I see that Jools Oliver has been copying me by having a ds after 3 dds Not that I went for the same name,though quite cute and a grower I think! (Buddy Bear).

Galwaygirl that's intersting about long cycles. TBH mine are usually short,and this slow one may be something to do with me having a chemical pregnancy last month perhaps?? Hopefully not the start of a new pattern. When you testing then?

Oh and I am now 3dpo so will be yelling about a positive test soon no doubt!

muchlove - oh ah, preggo dreams and/or baby dreams in the 2ww, well that confirms it, no need to do a test you must be up the duff this month. Shame about waking to reality.

gum - if you are going to test early, at least use internet cheapies! But of course really you should be waiting to test like Hippy told you (shh, I don't listen to her saying it either , hope you test again tomorrow and update us!)

Diege and 40something - it is so difficult in having to wait for delayed ov. But in the last group I was in that was as close as this one, it was the long-cycle gals that got preggo first!!!! So I am hoping the same for you guys.

Beattie - hope that the temp drop was a false alarma and that you get RTD to say away.

Sassy - now be nice and share, there are girls here who are further along in the 2ww than you,,,, let them have a turn with the credit card, good girl!

Hey Lovelies

Yes GUM I am coming up to testing too - 8dpo same as you today. I also have some strange feelings bbs feel tingly and have got that butterflies feeling in my stomach - but have had them feelings most months PG and non PG so I'm not gonna get to excited. But shall see (gonna try and wait till Monday to test).
I notice the minute HIPPY has left you are testing GUM what did she tell you ??? Hmmm I believe she told you it was pointless x

DIEGE Sounds like you are gearing up to OV (how annoying for you) I agree with 40somemum waiting to OV is shitty but at least when you do get the go-ahead you can be proactive (please try the plan when you get a + )

SASSY I gotta good feeling for you this month and shopping in the 2WW is my fave pasttime so please leave a bit of credit on there for me

ITALIAN Very well done for being disciplined with yourself (I think that is half the battle) especially when the weight is lost it is easy to sit back and get lazy (which is what I do) then back it all creeps again....

I had the most vivid dream last night that I had my baby girl and all the family were round and I have never felt so contented in my whole life ..... It was like the reverse of a nightmare where I just didnt want to wake up to the cold reality...... it was such a lovely feeling the kind you wanna bottle-up and keep (like the feeling you get in a new relationship).........

Love to all x

Hello
Gum things are looking very hopeful,both test and symptom-wise for you. Will you carry on testing now every few days (tempting) or be good and wait?
Beattie I suppose that's the problem with temps. I think I may well just start temping from next mth until ovulation and then stop, as I just keep on waking early out of anxiety,which I'm sure doesn't do the temps much good either.Hoping it was just one of those odd dips for you and that it will be back up tomorrow x
Hippy (peels Worther's Orginal off elbow and hands back to Hippy> you'll have to put one of those 'If it's rocking don't come knocking' signs on your caravan . And you are not old, not even old-er. Honestly, we'll look back in 10 years time and wonder what all this angst was about
Italian yes I've a;lways thought other slimming groups should place more emphasis on exercise (as in getting it done within the class,I know SW which I try to follow has some 'Body Magic' stuff, but it's all tucked neatly away in a booklet and doesn't really lend itself much to the eating plan). I suppose it's good having to exert the willpower early on in the diet; don't blame you for having a little cheat!
Sassy I've found the credit card tucked away behind the box of (banned) prawn cocktails,so take it and spend with glee!
40some after my early ovulations of the last month(s) I'm starting to see what you mean about 3 week wait . Day 15 today and no sign - a tinch of EWM last night,so jumped on dh,but temps still low,opks neg after promising lines early in the week.
Night off today anyway...I don't know how anyone can keep up with the every day SWI!

Well done Italian, what a great effort.You'll be trim and terrific when you are sporting your bump next year!

Bye Hippy, hope the caravan doesn't shake too much! You'll be able to give us tips on shagging in a confined space with children nearby when you get back. Have a fabulous time.

I know early testing is futile...but I just couldn't help myself.I felt nauseous last night, which really got me thinking.I promised myself I wouldn't test this morning, really, I did. So I got up and I heard the first response calling my name! I thought I could see the lightest,lightest line, but now I'm not so sure. So you are right - it is pointless to test early, because now I have ambiguous results.I'm only 8 dpo.I know, I know, silly Gum.

Time will tell...

Is anyone else close to testing? I have a feeling someone is, is it Beatie?

I do have some ambiguous symptoms which could be anything : tired,nauseous(particularly late in the day when I'm really tired - this is a symptom common to all my pregnancies), constipated (sorry TMI),sore boobs, high temps...I can't help but feel hopeful, but at the same time don't want to be too hopeful.

I'm loving the purple cushions, and the red fedora is fabulous!

Hippy thanks, no af did not turn up yet! thanks for the encouragement on weight. You are not the oldest person on here, I am! I think! Off at 5 am did I read that right!!!

Diege and GG thanks.

Diege It is only 1,200 calories for the first 2 weeks, then it goes up to 1,400 for the next two weeks after that. Then after that it is fitted to the individual. I have to be honest and say I did not 100% stick to it, I slipped up with a few desserts - and in the first two weeks you are not meant to have any! But the good news is that after the first couple of weeks you get desserts and treats! So don't feel too sorry for me! the thing I like is you get to do exercise in the class where as the other weight loss organisations like that seem to just do a talk.

Best wishes to all

hello all

gah I loathe having long cycles -tbh the 2ww is infinitely preferable to the three week wait until ovulation

nice to have you lot now to understand the 'I feel young why is my body not working' phenomenon .... not even day1 yet here which is probably why the morose mood!

maybe June will be the one !

Oiii give me my credit card back... what else am I meant to do in the 2ww...

GG crossed posts. Thanks for the hat - will wear it in the IOW!

just popped in to the shop after school pick up and saw these .... picked up one for each of us . Enjoy. Don't worry italian cyber-space makes them calorie free!!

hippy - now have picture of you sweeping off the clothes onto floor with one swing of your arm, in the fashion of typical tv movie scene of man shoving things off table before madly shagging desperate woman on said table. But at least your bed will be more comfy as long as you don't leave a flipflop lurking to roll onto! Enjoy your swi trip to IOW.

Also spooky feeling here too with the "When I Am an Old Woman I Shall Wear Purple" poem, just before I logged on here, I was showing my work collegue the "Bright Red hat" email that I quote from: "At 80 she does not pre-occupy herself with looking in the mirror. She simply puts on her bright red hat and goes and enjoys all the fun that life has to offer" - the first line of the poem you posted.... "When I am an old woman, I shall wear purple, with a red hat that doesn't go, and doesn't suit me." Oh how I wish I had your addresses to forward you all this email to, it is a great ad-on to the Jenny Joseph poem. I can picture us all with red hats on too!!!!!

Hippy I will miss you!

Italian - well done on the weightloss

lmfao@ werthers original

As Danny Dyer says in Severance diege - keep digging, we can still see you.

I know what you meant bezzy mate - actually, I fear I am indeed fast becoming the oldest person on here

sassy - you go girl!!!! filthy mind an' all . (did it involve the velvet cushions at all??) You deserve that pos this month.

At the moment our bed is covered in clothes (difficult to pack for september, wellies & flip-flops ).

All that will, of course, be thrown on the floor in a moment of passon as soon as Dh walks through the front door .

I thought I'd found your egg diege but it was just an old worthers original - sorry, I'll keep looking

Of course they were velvet

Have a great time Hippy - I have been a good girl and followed the emsp to the letter - just have to the do the one for luck in 2 days times... I have to tell you last night needed some persuading, and it is a bloody good job I have a filthy, filthy mind.

(looks around for Diege's egg)

older besser???I meant 'old' besser in an affectionate way, as opposed to arranging my bessers in age order (not that I have a younger one,it'sjust you and you alone Hipp)

Aww Hippy I am on both account, IOW and EWM!!!! My ovulation seems to have gone awol - darkening line on opk last 2 days, but no 'pos' as such; had ewm yesterday on and off but think it may have been dh from the night before's efforts . Temps still very low,nothing to report mucus-wise at all,which is very odd It will either happen in a dayor 2 or not at all I fear..ov on cd 12 last mth,though cd 16 the one before(cd 14 today).
Anyway,enough of my rambling! Have a great trip Hippy my older besser - will miss you Will do my best to be your bump buddy - wouldnl;t that be fun
Italian that's great news about the weight loss .It does sound a quite calorie restrictive diet from what you've written.How do you cope with the hunger?Mslucy as Hippy says,one day at a time.Have been there, worn the t-shirt sadly,so have an idea of what you're going through, but remember that things are going as they are supposed to at the moment,and you really couldn'thope for any better x
Right, back to work...if anyone sees my errant egg in the snug let know!

muchlove I am told the caravan has central heating! (Hippy packs her vest tops )

Have the best time HIPPY gonna miss you - bloody hell how quick did that come round ? EWCM and SWI - could you try and get lots a sessions in please (may have to move to nights whilst away) might be a bit nippy in vest/shorts tho

Be back later all x

oh blimey. just went to the loo and i have (as enid blighton would say) lashings of egg whites. (except she was referring to ginger beer!!)

So that means I am gonna have to fit a flippin' shag in today. We are leaving at 5am tomrrow, so it will have to be today.

"Don't come in boys we're still packing!!!" Oh the things we have to do

wow -spooky sassy the cushions WERE velvet in my head!!!

italian where are you??? Oh you turned sideways and I lost you for a second bloody well done on such a good start. You will be so slim and fit by the time your eggs come along

Ok, so I'm off to my beloved IOW at 5am tomorrow, so lots of packing to do today. Just wanted to leave a few instructions:-

Someone take the group credit card off sassy, goodness knows what she'll have bought and how much she'll have spent by the time i get back. sass am hoping for good news from you this month (fingers crossed).

gum early testing is pointless and tells you nothing! Consider yourself told.

If jolly pops in at all please someone give her a big hug from me and tell her Im thinking of her.

diege No botox whilst I'm gone - you don't need it! ps. You can still be my best mate if you like, just don't tell the others . Shall we try to be bump buddies this month?

mslucy take care - 1 day at a time, lovie.

djinnie I hope you get some answers to your missing AF soon.

muchlove Remember, you are a VIP in your own right and there are many things for you to be proud of as well as your chidren - having said that - babies are bloody cute arn't they???

beattie LOCK THE DOOR WHEN YOU ARE SWI!!!! Nuff said there i think.

italian keep up the weight loss. Did your AF show up yet??

GG I'm sure you'll be preggers again by the time I return. Good luck with the progesterone.

lia we haven't heard from you for a while and I'm thinking you must be approaching 12 weeks. News soon please.

lunatic Hoping you are well.

That's about it. So so sorry, if I've missed anyone off.

I can't quite believe I am going to be internet free for a week . There will be so much to catch up on when I get back. I will genuinly miss chatting to all you lovely ladies.

ps. I am offically mad. The new advert for McCanns chips where they show clips of different aspects of family life - makes me cry!!!! Shoot me now .

Hippy wanders off in a waft of purple to pack all her beautiful rustic yet oh so chic clothes in her purple suitcase ...... yeah right!

Hi ladies, quick post.

I lost 4 and a half pounds today at my first Rosemary Conley weigh in and was slimmer of the week.

I am delighted.

Once we have seen the consultant and ordered the drugs for treatment we will be ready to go. I am now looking on the wait, hopefully 8 months at the end of September, as a preparation time to get into tip top condition. I need to lose a lot so my goal is two and a half stone by Christmas (which is 2 and a half pounds a week, eeeek!)

Love to you all.

Sorry this is all me, me, me.

Thinking of you all.