More ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

Morning . Well not SWI last night because dh felt so rotton,but temps low this morning so think I might just catch the surge based on yesterday's pos opk if we DTD tonight
Gum yes, I'm sure getting pregnant easily in the past makes things harder in some ways now. That is, if it took on average say 12 mths, then to get to this point (7mth to me)would be simply par for the course?Having said that, the added anxiety of age creeping up might have caused anxiety whatever past pregnancies might have been like. I might be tempted to leave the opks and thermometer at home if I were you,though the old cm could still be something to nicely obsess about! (do you also check cp?I've always been a bit squemish (sp?) about that myself..)
Welcome Firefly you will love it here!Sassy hope that good sense prevailed and you had both the choc and wine - that would never have been a dilemma for me, though if pushed the maltesters would have won hands down.
Dreary, rainy day here. Planning on being nice to dh - well,as much as is reasonable - and trying to get the house into some sort of order.
Oh have been meaning to ask,has anyone actually opted for the VIP fertility friend deal? I am coming to the end of my free trial,and wondering what exactly I've get (left) for free?

Morning all. Well, still feeling sad. Obviously I have pms and RTD will catch up with me mid-week I think. It sucks. Tired of the whole bloody thing. But I'm pretty sure by the time RTD comes I actually start to feel optimistic again. My plan to keep busy with a project during the tww isn't working all that well. I spent all afternoon in the garden yesterday, but it didn't stop my mind from thinking about it all. Do I not have any good eggs left???Surely there must be at least one in there?

So, Sassy, was it the malteasers or the bubbly that won in the end?

I did go out for a lovely dinner with friends last night, and had a glass of champas.It was lovely. At least I'll be able to drink on holiday(in a couple of weeks.)

My temp dropped again this a.m. So pretty sure I am out.

I think I might give the opk's and temping a misss seeings we'll be on holiday. But not sure I'll be able to control my obsessive desire to use the thermometer!

Deige, do you think that because we fell preg so easily in the past that it makes this harder? It feels that way to me, though it did take 7 months last time.Now I worry because I'm two years older it'll take much longer.

Oh how I wish I could just "let nature take its course".

Welome fireflies, tell us a little about yourself.

(shoves over on the couch)

Yes - plenty of room, come in - help yerself to a beer or a glass of vino from the fridge...

Wot's your story firefiles ?

Hey there! Do you have room for another Feisty, Fabulous Forty something, ttc? Galwaygal suggest hooking up with you. I could do with all the moral support I can get!

smep = sperm meets egg plan...
It seems to involve a lot of shagging...

(settles down the snug with a bottle of fizzy rose and a huge bag of maltesers)
I know they don't go togehter... I can't decide... chooclate or wine.....

beattie -oooh what is smep?

day one for me and most likely another 17 days before ovulation

Well Curly I may have to love you and leave you in the corner...I've finally got a pos on an opk so am going to have to cunningly start to be nice to dh. This is going to be very hard is he is so in the worng he's in another country . The things we do for a bit of sperm .

hear hear diege......misery loves company you know

I vote that we designate part of the snug for grumpy-old women-ness that we can fill with various shades of lighting for obsessive wee-strip interrogation, wine, chocolate and scampi fries. Also one of those nodding dogs that will just agree when you rant about your dh/dp....
I'm in there today anyway..dh has man 'flu and I feel rotton,but of course I'm 'copying' and putting in on . Just when I could do with his 'contribution'today too.... Teeny bit of EWM,but temp rise today ...it is looking on paper like an annovulatory cycle, what with the see-sawing temps, but I suppose time will tell. What a waste though!
Beattie/Gum I think I'll also be setting myself a time limit,as the whole point of having another was to provide ds with a sibling closer in age than his older sisters..so looking really at June 2011 as my deadline. It's month 7 of trying for me, with dd1 taking 1 mth (ok, I was 3 hrs late with a mini pill so not trying as such ),dd2 1 mth,dd3 5 mths, ds 1 mth..so a def shift for me.
muchlove I feel your pain - try leaning out of an upstairs window for natural light, without catching the eye of the neighbour oppsite . Agree, it is crappy the whole hanging on just for af to confirm what you knew all along.Don't give up hope just yet though.
Curlylox have saved a place for you in the grumpy corner next to me x

Hello all it's horrid when you're body doesn't do want you want it to do and as my GP keeps telling me "where not machines, you have to let nature take it's course blah blah blah". So I feel your pain. My periods finally got back on track to my regular 28 days but that's all been thrown out the window again, due to me having nerve root injections in my back. FFS, I'm tired, hormonal, fed up, can't be arsed arrggghhhh..............(compose myself) hope you're all having a good weekend

Well GUM feeling right there with you hun, had loads a symptoms yesterday and then last night they kind of disappeared and then I had this feeling that Im not preggo STUPID BLOODY INTUITION !!! But I was really tired last night so went to bed early and after a really horrible dream awoke and decided to test BFN ..... But I knew it was gonna be ... just my body playing tricks on me again....
I have also gotten my BFPs at 9DPO GUM so know exactly how you feel... I am on Fertlity Friend too but not sure whether to renew or not when it expires...
I started trying last April/May and fell PG relatively quick (in June) then after that loss it took 6months until Feb to fall again and then I've had 2 early losses since also the age gap is getting too wide now with my youngest
BEATTIE Sorry the 'old cow' showed for you it's crap when all you've got to look forward to is HER showing her face (which is the position I am in now)

So I will prob scrutinize my IC test for a few more hours under various lighting and angles then try and get on with my day ... maybe give DH evil stares coz he let me down this month so he is gonna get the majority of my shitty feelings

DJINNI Im sorry your still in limbo I really am ... why don't you try wearing white jeans or something she bound to turn up then

SAS yeah you did it woohoo now it's slanket time hurrah ...

Love to you all ...... I will be back a bit later after i've gone crosseyed and mental staring at a strip of plastic for a few more hours.... I guess I've just been a purple kinda-girl all my life !

x

Djinnie, sorry to hear you still don't know what's going on. I hope the weekend doesn't drag for you. ((HUGS))

Three times a day!!! Good Lord, they must be nineteen and on their honeymoon.I can't even manage twice a day! Maybe that's why it is harder to get pregnant over forty - cos we just don't feel like shagging?

O.k, so I'm sorry I tested early.You are right.It is pointless and has left me feeling sad and down after a bfn this a.m. I got a + at 9dpo with my last baby, so have been optimistically testing early. Now I wish I'd just been patient.

I'm not going to test again until Thursday, by which time AF should have turned up.

I'm curious - how long has everyone been TTC? It's been 5 months for me.Seems like forever because I think I was waiting for the return of fertility for about 7 months before that. So I have to try to remember that it really hasn't been that long.

I have kind of decided that I'll stop ttc if I'm not pregnant by the time my LO turns 3 (Aug 2011). My intention was that he would have a sibling close in age as his sister is 8 years older. Besides, I don't think I can remain optimistic and positive forever!

Has anyone else put a time limit on it?

I did read about a 48 yr old in her third trimester over at fertility friend.That was encouraging. And I have seen charts over there with loads of over 40's pregnancies.

Beattie I had a temp drop too. All this ttc is shit really. Why can't we get a bfp already!?

Oh - hand out these homemade triple chocolate biscuits I made Eat as many as you like Italian, they are virtual - so no calories.

I read that thread too!
Seriously though, shagging every day would probably be quite a good idea, esp if you're not a 100 per cent sure when you ovulate.

Honestly that's just ridiculous Can you imagine that? I'll bet it was on a 'legs in the air and we just don't care' type thread

Wonder what would happen if you did it every day???

Now I'm worried I'm not shagging enuf

Sassy definitely carry on for a day or two after the ov pains I'd say.I'm not sure I'd bother with temping if you're doing the EMS plan - after all, you've pretty much covered every base with constant shagging I can understand why you'd want to avoid thermometers , but fingers crossed this month will have worked anyway x
Well still neg on opk,though line a little darker than yesterday.SWI last night, so at least that means a night off today. At this rate,I'll be having another 33 days cycle like July, although as long as lp is ok I'm not too bothered!

oh djinnie that's infuriating isn't it... just when you thought you were about to find out - won't it be amazing if you phone on monday and find your'e 2 months pg though!

Thank GG Well I'm confused - I suppose I should have kept using the opks until they went neg - if the pain is before ov it will probaly explain why I'm not pg, as we usually stop once I get the pain

Nothing to be impressed about around not testing... I think I would find it nail biting stuff - I have enuf drama in my life without more.. I've also thrown all the thermoeters in the house away. DD had a fever for a few days before she died, and just seeing them gave me flashbacks... so they went in the bin! I can see how charting might help- perhaps I will pluck up courage and buy one.

Sassy, you know you're going to have to SWI again don't you,just the once . I am in total admiration that you have followed it to the letter. I was also trying to put into words the thing about ov pain, but see that Galway has done it for me and far more clearly too
I've just had lots of EWM, so seems that all the calling for my egg is working .Will do an opk now and see what it says.
Djinnie I'll bet you're sick of it I really hope the tests can shed some more light on the situation x

Hi folks

Thought I'd update. Still no AF. Have now lost count completely it's 8 weeks and one day - so last AF 22 July.

Initial nausea (some not much) and tiredness but now I put the tiredness down to my job and no other symptoms.

Had blood tests for pregnancy, hormones and thyroid on Monday. Was hoping to get the results today but when I phoned the surgery my GP 'doesn't normally work Fridays' and only one locum on and 'we don't seem to have the results' and 'we aren't clinicians so can't pass information on' etc etc.

So it will have to wait till Monday I guess.

Thing is I have a bit of a discharge now. Can't work out if it's blood or not. It's not very much really but unusual to me.

I'm a bit tired of it all tbh.

Argh.

Hope it's all going well for you guys xxxx

Sassy - I think the cd8 one is incase you randomly ov early,,,,, it does happen for some people. I normal ov on day 13/14 or 15 my cycle being 26/27 days on average, but I have has 24 day cycles where I have ov'd on day 8/9 and likewise I have ov'd late and had cycles up to around 33 days. I am of your regular cycle, it does make timing easier. Ov pain can happen before, during or after ov, so is not an accurate predictor of ov time, just gives an idea that it might be happening. I assume that the extra swi, is due to some people having postive opk's for more than one day (like yourself) and the actual ov might be later than thought. So if you had had a positive test the day after you stopped testing it could be that you ov 48 hours AFTER that, which could be today!!!!!! (Hense why I rely on temping, so I can stop shagging ).

is anyone else as surprised as me that sassy is not a POAS-aholic like the rest of us, wow, the staying power to not test. I am impressed!

Diege - let me try for you "here eggy eggy eggy, here eggy eggy eggy.... come to Diege-y"