More ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

ahh... you have been reading all my blog muchlove - not just my views on Spirtualism Thank you - it is very kind of you - nothing wrong with well-meaning words - what else is there?

(looks for the magic baby dust to throw around again)

Shall we run a book on who gets pg first?

Oh SAS I have just read your blog and want to say 'I am so so truly sorry for the pain you and your husband are going through'
I can't even begin to imagine the devastation you have had to endure though you have given me a brief glimpse in your writing

What an amazing - beautiful - clever girl your Catherine. I have a picture of her in my mind from your words.

Now I sit here with my chin resting on my hands trying to find the right words.... I stare at the screen with a heavy heavy heart then I think it's best to not waffle on as I'm sure you have had a bellyful of well-meaning words to last a lifetime.

But all I can say is I hope and I pray that Catherine sends a sister or brother down to her mummy and daddy not to replace her (THAT COULD NEVER HAPPEN) but so that a part of her can live on again

Godbless that little star that shone so bright

xx

gg IT IS TOO BLOODY EARLY TO TEST!
Sorry - didn't realise I was shouting... I am 9 days pst the pos opk test and 8 days past the ov pain... I'm really impressed that you have tracked all our cycles!

Gum I blogged this about the spiritualists.. susansobspot.blogspot.com/2010/09/spiritualism.html It is just utter shite.. sorry, am I speaking too bluntly. At best is is a harmless night out. They are just saying a lot of random nonsense - if someoone says enough random baloney, some of it is bound to be true!

Hey GG
Crossed posts there - yes I'm just chalking today down as DPO 13 and spotting so expect her to be here tomorrow you are so so clever keeping track of us all BRILLIANT !!!
Feels like my mum keeping track of my cycles when I was a youngster... now can you just tell me to be careful and use contraception (is'nt that how most teens get PG !!!)

Hmm 8DPO testing as far as I'm concerned is never a good turn out - ever ..... so you are not out yet - earliest I have got is 9DPO with a IC at 10ml sensitivity ..... but too many times 8DPO has thrown me bcoz I was sure I saw a shadow of something and got excited OR completely blank and then the next day a possy....... but really 8DPO is best avoided as it's just too early.....

x

Hmm don't get me started on psychics !!!

I have had a few face to facers and a couple of onliners (oh my god that's my credability gone down the drain )and to be honest I only went to find a bit of hope to hang on to. I have been to expensive ones [sceptical] (yeah it's a massive business) and cheap ones and so far the only one that has been true is the cheapest one (done through a friend of a friend) cost me a fiver and she told me that 'I had enough on my plate and that I was lucky to have the last little one and that I won't have anymore' Hhhmpf ...... She actually told me off ! It was a bit like sitting with ya nan in all her wiseness....
Actually the most expensive one I have been to (she has been on TV and radio) has also been correct in the amount of MCs I have had but she still said I would have a 'girl' and that I shouldn't give up she was also spot on about my family life and past.
So we will see.........

The online one that I used was a woman called 'Ruby' who has now got a bad reputation... I had to send her a photo and asked if I would have another and to be fair to her she was spot on both times in the conception date (both lost tho) but she took ages and there was a time there where I got the feeling I was gonna be turned over. But I sent her an angry Email and the next day she sent my reading..... but I think she has let a lot of women down.

May I just also say I have never been to them before in my life up until this time when I was just feeling so lost and vunerable.

But I can so see why you would go to a spiritualist meeting SAS you need to be able to make that connection again with your little precious one. x

I am 8dpo.... test BFN.... but boobs so sore I am convinced they are about to explode. Little cramping, which like Sassy I know is implantation.... I am right behind you Sassy!

Lunatic - yay! hi hope it is all going well for you, sit down for a bit and join in our snug time. Glad you like what we (sassy!!) have done here so far.

Sassy - sp pleased you are not going on holiday without internet access, we want to know the minute you get your bfp. I have high hopes for you this month.

gum - sorry RTD arrived, but sounds like you had a good time at the beach.

I was trying to work out where everyone is, have I got it right?:

Gum cd2
jolls cd
italian
Diege - 3dpo
Hippy - swi ? 6dpo guessing
GG - 8dpo
Sassy - 9dpo
muchlove 13dpo
BB???
curlylox
40some????
10000ff ?????

lottie ????

Loads of preggo ones including lunatic, lia, mrs lucy, alba and is TFLS still preggo or has she screamed and popped?

Muchlove - not implantation bleeding is it? Although I have had a couple of times when my temp has not come down for a few days, and then irratic during af. But have you called it cd1 or still in the ????? time?

Diege - here, have a hot chocolate to go with the wonderful shortbread sassy made.

Afternoon all xx

Good to know everyone is cheerfully sympton spotting, and me not feeling pg is actually a sign of being pg I think I will just wait for AF to come... but don't worry, I will have internet access on holiday, so will probably spend more time in here than I usually do.

If however I am up the duff, muchlove can take the credit (along with DH of course). Do you have a more conventional name we can use though for the child?

Gumblossom a psychic reading, ffs! I have been to a number of spiritualist meetings lately, and it is quite obvious how they do it - and really suprising how there's this regular congregation, all bowling up every week who fall for it hook line and sinker... I hope it didn't cost much money?

I should clarify that my reading was face-to-face.

Gum you know those internet things are total rubbish don't you?? I know how easy it is to get wound up by psychics though. I had one done 2 years ago where I was told I'd have to give up a dream and make massive sacrifices within the 2 years (now gone). Cue on and off dread for the last 2 years and of course nothing like that happened! Out of interest,how does the internet psychic do her reading? ?

Galwaygirl, did you test yet? It is getting very exciting, especially with Sassy's lovely symptoms (I had these types of cramps when I got preg too!)

I now have proof that getting psychic readings is silly, a load of cobblers, and not always very hopeful.

I got one done over the net. I had read about her being spot on with someone on mumsnet about their pregnancy. I bought it off ebay. When I did I felt I may have had one done by her last year (where she said she saw a pregnancy in September).This time she said a lot of things, but also said she didn't see a pregnancy. I felt really upset at first, but then thought how silly it is to let it upset me.Especially as I think she had said previously that I would get pregnant.I'm not 100% sure if it was the same lady, but I feel very strongly that it might be.

I can't believe I let it upset me, but these days it doesn't take much.I had also just spoken to my friend who just had her 19 week scan done.She was so excited about having a boy, and I'm so pleased for her, just wish it could be me too...You all know how that feels.

Sassy, I love the new rug and mugs for the snug, they are very cosy.

Anyway...it's the last time I'll get one done over the net.i should know better!

That's encouraging Muchlove .I nominate you the snug's cheerleader . I think I was wrong-footed this month having ovulated on day 12 last month, so day 17 ov a bit of a surprise...so swi cd 12, 14 (then dh got 'ill'),17 and 18. Af usually 12 days after ov which makes testing day October 2nd,give or take 8 days No really, after last month's cp there's no way I'm testing early .

DIEGE For some reason PRE-OV sessions don't seem to work for me it has to be on the day of OV or after so you defo covered all your bases this time..... and the EWCM doesn't matter so much (there are women on FF who are trying for girls who take loadsa stuff to dry up their CM and they still get PG)

Oh I really do find this 2WW symptom spotting EXCITING !!!

This is better than any Reality TV show ...he he

x

Loving the snug girls - and loving the symptoms SAS YIPPEE !!!!!

I have had those crampy type pains with all my BFPs too usually followed a couple of days later with the tingly bbs.... Oh I love to symptom spot.....

Well my temp was quite high this morn and then AF is starting to come so how weird is that I believe that happened to you BB so might have to give the therm a miss from now on.....

If you are UPDUFFED this month SAS I am gonna take the credit (if that's ok) coz the SMEP was my suggestion in the beginning and you can even call your child 'Muchlove' (only kidding)......... this is soooo very exciting.... will you test before you go away on hols ?????

x

I too had the type of 'period'pains that Lunatic describes when I've had my bfps Sassy.In fact I've never felt more that my period was about to start when I've been pregnant!
Third day of raised temps,so fertilty friend has put me at 3 days post-ov. If I was pregnant this month my due date would be the day before ds's (dc 4's) birthday,not that I've ever made it to my due date with any of mine (dd1 5 days early, dd2 5days early, dd3 6 days early, ds 8 days early).I don't think my chances are great this month anyway as didn;t get enough pre-ov swis in or much EWM at the right time, but still exciting thinking there's a small (well, tiny) chance

Yipee - I have implantation pain
Thank you Diege

I love Anta - they have a fabby shop about 50 miles north of Inverness - can we all meet there for coffee? Caffeine free of course now I'm up the duff

Oh I am loving the new snug throw- do we have enough left on our credit card limit though? Not too sure about the mugs- very 'snug' though I agree .You know you'll have Hippy to account to when she gets back...
On symptoms front def can be interpreted as such - clearly implantation pain I'd say.Have everything crossed for you

PS Could someone please rescue me from the ANTA site - it is all your fault. I only went in there to brighten up the snug!

ok, ok.. you can come in now Diege You've been very diligent.

(Throws another log on the fire to warm up GG) Sorry I took so long...

BUT I'VE BEEN SHOPPING...

As it's getting chilly, I thought I would get us some rugs to go with our slankets.. They are absolutely fab - no dropping chips on them though or grinding maltesers into them, cos at £215 a go I can't afford another set!
www.anta.co.uk/shop/item.php?id=299&catid=158&brandid=0&image=2

While I was in ANTA, I couldn't resist ....
www.anta.co.uk/browse/LatteMugs_154_0_0_na.html
and I have whipped us all up some shortbread.

I seem to have period type pain, but it can't be as it only cd22, and am not due till Sat/Sun. Perhaps someone will be able to interpret this as a pos pg sign instead

muchlove aren't false negs quite common??

Anyway, what's the fuss about "wasting" some ccash on IVF.... what were you gonna spend it on anyway.... Actually, on second thoughts, don't answer that.....

dp just reminded me that the consultant we saw ( who is a pretty high up one I am told!) said AMH was the 'newkid on the block' and superseding the FSH and LH

who knows ?

muchlove I see what you mean about all that money and IVF failing to stick aaaarrrggghhh!

Let me in!!! I've done two days in the row god damn it!!! Temp is up for 2nd day in row,neg on opk,dh flagging...is that enough??
Gum really sorry about af esp after all the hope of the faint line . You sound very composed and reflective,though I'm sure would relish one of my special snug chocolate brownies,complete with a choice of soda stream beveriges?? Cream soda do you? I'm also very of your summer day..
Galwaygirl good on you on giving them hell - I think medical people need to be given a shake from time to time.And at least they know your face now
Muchlove that's a bummer about the symptoms not tying in with test Is there a chance you perhaps ovulated later than usual?
Sassy I remember that Smith and Jones sketch .
I've decided I don't believe in SWII so that's the job done for this month -couldn;t have done anymore really!

Hey All

Oh how the mind can mess with us. After testing NEG the other day I thought I am not gonna test again and just wait for AF to show - anyway I have had symptoms through the ROOF !!! Really sore bbs - increased cm -still high temps so thought I better test again just to rule it out and still NEG but where oh where are these sypmtoms coming from. I only ever get this when I am PG ??? So weird also I have'nt had any spotting yet and this always preceeds AF for about 3 days and I am due 2moro or Thursday ??? So anyway I am defo not PG bcoz it would have shown on a test by now at 12DPO so HO HUM I await her arrival ....

GUM Your day sounds lovely I am totally envious

DIEGE I am so looking forward to when you're gonna be testing - you will prob be around the same time as HIPPY GREAT - are you sure you can't just squeeze another one in 2nite (for good measure )

GG Oh the symptoms - the symptoms .... If you can brave it out then wait awhile if not then do like me and ..TEST... SOON... PEASE...

What will the AGNUS do for you BB ? Am just curious........

40somemum Iv'e not had the AMH Test done only FSH which I think last December was at 8.2 not had another done this year....but it's a bit pointless when like you I can get preggo just cant keep em - I wish there was a test for the quality but alas there is'nt ... the only thing is maybe if IVF was used they do have to check the eggs for viability so at least they only put the good ones back so to speak.... but imagine if you went through all that and had good ones put back (also prob be about 5K out of pocket) and they did'nt take I think that must be so awful so so awful.....

How ya feelin SAS ??? Hmm yes it seems gone are the days of doing it just coz you want to and to be honest I really hate that - I hate all the clinicalness of it - If I was 10 yrs younger I would'nt give a hoot. But now it seems every month is sooooo important to get the timing right and I seem to be hurtling towards my 44th birthday nxt year ... gggrrhhh

x

GG how many days post O are you?

RTD is here. Fully expected it, but had to console myself with some internet shopping. I bought a troll bracelet with a few special beads - rose quartz and other symbols for creativity and fertility. I live in hope!

No testing for me. I just don't want to go there - afraid they may say negative things and I just want to try and do everything naturally.

As for the cervical mucus thing - I don't have nearly as much as when I was younger, but can still tell when I'm fertile. I suppose I should probably "supplement" my scant mucus with some preseed, but I can never be bothered! I must admit I did use it when we conceived our last bub.Maybe I should just try it again?

I had a very pleasant morning at the beach with my LO and a friend and her LO.It was so sunny and warm, so at least my first day of RTD wasn't so bad.

I have run - washing to hang out before the sun goes away.

Let us know if you test GG!

Quick lock the doors, Diege is trying to come into the snug with her slanket without finishing her SWI-time..... !!!!

Diege - the blood tests are really a waste of time, I have already "been through the system" but because I put in a complaint about the treatment given by a junior doctor I got hauled in again, but am being switched from one consultant to another one. I have also gone privately to two different clinics (one based on natural fertility with the definite opinion that cm is the only way to monitor when to have swi, and the other clinic being prof lesley regans clinic.) I have had most of the tests available,, in fact I think other that the AMH one that I have actively avoided, the only blood test I haven't had is the vitamin B12 levesl. I am not going to even raise a iota of hope that this new consultant will say anything new to me. But I will go anyway

I have weird cramping going on today, feeling nauseous from the progesterone and generally wondering how much longer I will wait to test (well hippy is not here to tell me off for testing early )

Can someone put another log on the fire, I am feeling chilling this morning...