Clearblue Fertility Monitor Support Group Buddies Vol 4!!

Morning babyhoping - so sorry to hear about your BFN this month. I really hope you get your BFP one way or another soon and that you come back every now and again so we can see how you're getting on. You never know, taking some time out may be just what you need. XX

Hi everyone,

Well, another BFN, this months after a full ovulation treatment and being completely drugged. I´m really sorry but I just decided to move away from the forums and try not to think about it in the next months.

Thank you for all the support you have been giving me. Good luck and baby dust to everyone!

Hello all!

vnewmummy - very brave of you to take a firm decision but I can understand why it's the right decision for you. Take care and feel free to keep in touch on here if you want to.

Emma - welcome to the thread :)

PinkCustard - sorry your DH is not co-operating :( I agree with Starlet's comments. Maybe try asking him at what stage he would be prepared to go and get SA? I know if I were you though I would be tearing my hair out. Here's hoping you don't need it anyway and you get your BFP in the next couple of months!

Storm - that does sound promising! Hopefully it will be your month!

Rosie, KC, Keziah - sorry for AF

Lychees - glad your HSG went ok

Thanks for lovely comments about our new kitchen. I have Wednesdays off work so spent the afternoon in there with DS playing and I cooked a beef casserole for tea, some stewed apples and and apple sponge. (We have 3 large apple trees in the garden!)

Hello everyone else I've missed - hope we get some lovely BFPs soon :)

Hi Boba - I wish. The tests that showed high oestrogen were taken in July so just had day 3 bloods repeated .....

Fingers crossed Storm.

Thanks StormBird

UCL: usual cycle length; CD: cycle day( what day of your period you are on,cycle day 1 being the 1st day of your period).
Welcome to the thread. Hope it brings you luck.

Hi Emma,

UCL means Usual Cycle Length
and CD is Cycle Day

So add your UCL in and then when you set your monitor on Day 1 of your period this will be CD1 for you.

Good Luck

xx

sorry that meant to say CBFM 0 (starting on 8th Oct!) xx

Hey girls, would love to join your stats, not sure what all the shorthand means though, as i've only just joined the site

so far i can give you

TTC#1, Cycle 11, CBFM 0 (starting on 8th Dec!), aged 29 then the UCL & CD I'm not sure what this all means xx

Hello everyone,

Well Temp has gone up again this morning!! and is now a record temp for me. I'm trying so hard not to get my hopes up but this chart is not like my usual ones. Oooooohhhh!!!

Sorry AF got you Rosie Pink & KC

Just a quick post from me today.

Hope you are all well XXX

Rosie, Pink, KC sorry AF got you all.

Pink re getting DH to do SA, I think most men get rather embarrassed about this. My DH did it but he was rather unwilling and found the whole thing rather embarrassing. I think in general men take male fertility issues quite badly (as if it's an affront to their manliness or something), which is silly really considering ALL the tests and issues that us women have to contend with. They should really count themselves as rather fortunate! Perhaps you should tell him that it's just procedure and that it would be good to rule out any issues there so they can concentrate on any female fertility issues. It is tricky though .... Good luck.

KC thanks so much for all the information set out above. The consultant didn't mention that if unexplained infertility it would be a three year wait ... TBH I don't think we would wait that long so would look to go private if that happened. From reading about your first GP appointment, it sounds very different to ours! Basically, our GP was only required to carry out certain tests for a referral to the FC i.e. they were prescribed by the FC rather than the GP doing the tests as a matter of course. So all the usual questions were asked and then blood tests for both of us re certain STIs; FSH/LH for me; and then day 21 (but earlier for me given my shorter cycle) for progesterone. DH was given forms for SA and told to make appointment with the hospital to drop off sample. No internal or external examination for me. No thyroid tests; no glucose tests etc. Have just had day 3 bloods repeated due to very high oestrogen levels but DH has not been requested to do second SA - perhaps his levels were sufficiently within their "normal" range. Anyway, am now waiting to get appointment for a hycosy. Your GP sounds very thorough and I agree with you/Keziah - why can't they all follow the same (high standard) protocol. It's a bit daft really especially as it is the NATIONAL health service. Ho hum.

Lychees - glad to hear that your HSG went well - must be a relief. Hope your DH's SA comes back normal as well.

Emma - welcome to the thread.

Storm - I shouldn't worry too much about a dip in temps. I know someone whose temps dropped around implantion .....

Essence - agree with the others - your kitchen sounds lovely !!

Vnewmummy - will be very sad to see you leave us. Pls do pop in from time to time and also keep us posted as to how you are keeping etc.

Hi Storm - like you, I am busy buying tickest for the Euromillions this week! Well, someone has to win it ....

Re CBFM - I have just had my third high (bit unusual for me - normally only get two) and the second line on the stick looks fainter than it did yesterday. Odd.

Hello to everyone else!

Did i bugger up the stats? I really attempt them! Thanks pinkcustard :)

FlyingCat TTC#1, cycle 26, CBFM cycle 2, age 30, UCL 28-29, CD100
Rach879 TTC#1 cycle 7, CBFM cycle 1, age 30, UCL 30-34, CD67
BabyHoping TTC#1, CBM cycle 4, age 33, ucl 31-38, CD 65
Jenni4 TTC#2, cycle 5 CBFM cycle 2, age 36, UCL 26 CD47
Hairytriangle TTC#1 cycle 10, CBFM cycle 1, age 42, UCL 28/29, CD33
Rosieposey TTC#5, Cycle 10, CBFM cycle 2, age 38, ucl 29-3, CD32
Missyraines TTC1, Cycle 11, CBFM cycle 6, age 33, UCL 32, CD31
Stormbird TTC #1, Cycle #4, CBFM Cycle #4, age 28, UCL 28 CD25
TangoTime TTC #1, Cycle #6, CBFM Cycle #2, age 32, UCL 28 CD24
Boba82 TTC#1 cycle 16, CBFM cycle 3, age 28, UCL ?, CD24
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy, TTC#3 Cycle 2, CBFM cycle 2, age 34, UCL 28-29, CD20
Ses TTC#2, cycle 3 CBFM cycle 5, age 37, UCL 30 CD16
Emmylou30 TTC #1, Cycle 3, CBFM cycle 2, age 30 UCL 35 CD15
chocciechip TTC#1 cycle 8, CBFM cycle 8, age 39, UCL29, CD12
Lychees TTC #2, Cycle 12, CBFM cycle 8, Aged 36, UCL 30-35, CD11
Starlet22 TTC#1; cycle 14; CBFM cycle 8; age 34; ucl 25; CD10
ljg TTC#3 Cycle 5, CBFM cycle 4 age 38 UCL 28-30 CD7
wantbaby TTC#1, cycle 9, CBFM cycle 4, age 38, UCL 30, CD 4
Headbanger TTC #1, Cycle #9, CBFM cycle #2, Aged 30
Keziah TTC#1, cycle26, CBFM cycle 14, age 35, ucl 28-31, CD 1
KnackeredCow TTC#1, Cycle 13, CBFM cycle 2, age 31, UCL 28, CD1
PinkCustard TTC#2 Cycle10 CBFM Cycle5 age 33 UCL 30-35 CD1
Rosieposey TTC#5, Cycle 10, CBFM cycle #3 aged38 UCL30 CD1

That should be right I think.

PS Need to catch up with the thread as haven't been on much lately (as trying not to obsess Hah!) Will read back and catch up.

Sorry about AF Rosie, good that you sound positive - onwards and upwards...

Just popping in to update stats as AF got here this morning - am glad though as it means can start again this month. I will catch up properly with the thread later on today and post properly but thanks for your kind words again everyone :)

Just want to say quickly to vnewmummy good luck for the future and i really hope to see you again on here sometime. Hope you are ok.

FlyingCat TTC#1, cycle 26, CBFM cycle 2, age 30, UCL 28-29, CD100
Rach879 TTC#1 cycle 7, CBFM cycle 1, age 30, UCL 30-34, CD67
BabyHoping TTC#1, CBM cycle 4, age 33, ucl 31-38, CD 65
Jenni4 TTC#2, cycle 5 CBFM cycle 2, age 36, UCL 26 CD47
Hairytriangle TTC#1 cycle 10, CBFM cycle 1, age 42, UCL 28/29, CD33
Keziah TTC#1, cycle25, CBFM cycle 13, age 35, ucl 28-31, CD 31
Missyraines TTC1, Cycle 11, CBFM cycle 6, age 33, UCL 32, CD31
KnackeredCow TTC#1, Cycle 12, CBFM cycle 1, age 31, UCL 28, CD29
PinkCustard TTC#2 Cycle9 CBFM Cycle4 age 33 UCL 30-35 CD 29
Stormbird TTC #1, Cycle #4, CBFM Cycle #4, age 28, UCL 28 CD25
TangoTime TTC #1, Cycle #6, CBFM Cycle #2, age 32, UCL 28 CD24
Boba82 TTC#1 cycle 16, CBFM cycle 3, age 28, UCL ?, CD24
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy, TTC#3 Cycle 2, CBFM cycle 2, age 34, UCL 28-29, CD20
Ses TTC#2, cycle 3 CBFM cycle 5, age 37, UCL 30 CD16
Emmylou30 TTC #1, Cycle 3, CBFM cycle 2, age 30 UCL 35 CD15
chocciechip TTC#1 cycle 8, CBFM cycle 8, age 39, UCL29, CD12
Lychees TTC #2, Cycle 12, CBFM cycle 8, Aged 36, UCL 30-35, CD11
Starlet22 TTC#1; cycle 14; CBFM cycle 8; age 34; ucl 25; CD10
ljg TTC#3 Cycle 5, CBFM cycle 4 age 38 UCL 28-30 CD7
wantbaby TTC#1, cycle 9, CBFM cycle 4, age 38, UCL 30, CD 4
Headbanger TTC #1, Cycle #9, CBFM cycle #2, Aged 30
Rosieposey TTC#5, Cycle 10, CBFM cycle #3 aged38 UCL30 CD1

FlyingCat TTC#1, cycle 26, CBFM cycle 2, age 30, UCL 28-29, CD100
Rach879 TTC#1 cycle 7, CBFM cycle 1, age 30, UCL 30-34, CD67
BabyHoping TTC#1, CBM cycle 4, age 33, ucl 31-38, CD 65
Jenni4 TTC#2, cycle 5 CBFM cycle 2, age 36, UCL 26 CD47
Hairytriangle TTC#1 cycle 10, CBFM cycle 1, age 42, UCL 28/29, CD33
Rosieposey TTC#5, Cycle 10, CBFM cycle 2, age 38, ucl 29-3, CD32
Missyraines TTC1, Cycle 11, CBFM cycle 6, age 33, UCL 32, CD31
Stormbird TTC #1, Cycle #4, CBFM Cycle #4, age 28, UCL 28 CD25
TangoTime TTC #1, Cycle #6, CBFM Cycle #2, age 32, UCL 28 CD24
Boba82 TTC#1 cycle 16, CBFM cycle 3, age 28, UCL ?, CD24
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy, TTC#3 Cycle 2, CBFM cycle 2, age 34, UCL 28-29, CD20
Ses TTC#2, cycle 3 CBFM cycle 5, age 37, UCL 30 CD16
Emmylou30 TTC #1, Cycle 3, CBFM cycle 2, age 30 UCL 35 CD15
chocciechip TTC#1 cycle 8, CBFM cycle 8, age 39, UCL29, CD12
Lychees TTC #2, Cycle 12, CBFM cycle 8, Aged 36, UCL 30-35, CD11
Starlet22 TTC#1; cycle 14; CBFM cycle 8; age 34; ucl 25; CD10
ljg TTC#3 Cycle 5, CBFM cycle 4 age 38 UCL 28-30 CD7
wantbaby TTC#1, cycle 9, CBFM cycle 4, age 38, UCL 30, CD 4
Headbanger TTC #1, Cycle #9, CBFM cycle #2, Aged 30
Keziah TTC#1, cycle26, CBFM cycle 14, age 35, ucl 28-31, CD 1
KnackeredCow TTC#1, Cycle 13, CBFM cycle 2, age 31, UCL 28, CD1
PinkCustard TTC#2 Cycle10 CBFM Cycle5 age 33 UCL 30-35 CD1

Thanks for your responses.

Didn't get my usual spotting this time, went straight to full AF yesterday, which is unusual. So maybe my normal 12 day LP isn't too bad?

Will try some B6 in addition to Pregnacare (as this only has 10mg in).

Discussed with DH last night and he's refusing to go for a SA!!!! I explained that without it the GP won't continue any investigations and I don't want to fruitlessly carry on with TTC if there's something preventing it from happening. He thinks I'm being melodramatic (which I might be, but still!) and that I'll get pregnant naturally soon enough. Has anyone else's H's been so unwilling to have a SA done (and how did you persuade them..?)

Hi KC - yes I did see North Staffs! I worked in that area for a while, scary!! I just wish everywhere would fund 2 cycles and even if out. What do you think will happen with changes to PCT's - any benefits maybe?
Yes, your gp was good, maybe being female helped? Though actually I got more support from a male gp than the female ones!! Do you think it helps having a dh as a gp? Great to see what they can do though. From Gp first tests to being told to keep trying even though you need IVF (what a good one that was, esp as we knew a couple who had unexplained issues after a year getting treatment!!) it took 9 months. Hence we switched hospitals and are now awating ICSI. As we have a problem not had to wait 2/3yrs, though we have reached that time.

KC - sadly, moving probably costs more than the extra cycle unless you want to move! I am so with you about one NI system and unequal treatments. If only we had the energy to fight that! Hope your tests are helpful for you x

Keziah sorry to hear you will be back to day 1 tomorrow. AF has just arrived for me so I've just sent DH out to buy a bottle of red! Every cloud and all that....

Glad you found the link useful. My PCT only funds 1 cycle too but you have to wait three years if it's unexplained infertility. They fast track if there is a diagnosed cause. They are pretty leniant on other criteria though, certainly compared to other PCTs. Did you see at the bottom that North Staffs haven't funded any IVF for the last two years? It's shocking that we all pay NI and yet we're not all entitled to the same treatment.

DH works 12 miles to the north in a different PCT. They fund 2 cycles but use the same FC! Told DH we might have to move.

I think I may have just got lucky with my GP in terms of her thoroughness. Definitely seems the exception rather than the rule.

Pink - also when you have a scan at FC they check your endometrium which might reassure you!

Hi pink, 10 days are on the limit for a lutheal phase, but if you are only spotting, your cycle does not end today. What I´m saying is that the first day of the cycle is when you have the real flow, so if you spot for two days before AF, those two days are included in the lutheal phase (this was explained to me by a doctor...). Now, spotting for some days before AF together with a kind of short phase might mean some deficiency of progesterone and a dificulty to maintain the endometrium. Here I have a friend who seemes to have this problem and was taking progesterone 200mg since she ovulated until two weeks after, than she would make a pregnancy test and if negative would stop progesterone. Hope this helps.

KC - very useful article you linked there! I am in area with 1 cycle funded only . I will be joining you on day 1 tomorrow also, as expected (well just late!)

Emma - I think KC got the gold star treatment at her apt!! I guess a lot depends on the Gp practice and yourself - how long ttc, age, medical history etc (eg if had cancer). For me I got sent for the same blood tests as most people here, saw a nurse for STI swabs and up to date smear (no internal or external exam), DH got separate forms for a SA at local hospital. Then saw Gp for results - as if due to say a thyroid problem they don't want to look foolish and have already referred. As some numbers were not great for me, blood tests were repeated and a 2nd SA for dh, as not great either while waited for FC referral, which helped things along at FC!

Useful to know that if needing fertility treatment, as KC's link shows there are limitations - general UK ones are BMI to be below 30 (mine was 31, not now!!) - which is handy to know if in referral process, as frustrating to wait and then find treatment blocked (but sure no one has that problem, just me!!)

Fedup - thank you, that is really kind.

Pink, I can't imagine the Gp will fast forward referral to FC if you already had tests and dh not been for a SA, and doubt a gp has the knowledge to answer the question you have - well mine wouldn't! Trying B vit no harm - do you take something like pregnacare already? Or take B6 on top of that?

Oh - my dh's morphology was really bad and on advice on FC he changed his vits from wellman ones to ones you can't buy apart from in Australia/New Zealand, or buy all bits separately - and his morphology has increased (but still probs with his antibodies!!) - called Menevit. Not saying they are a miracle cure, but he has had FOUR SA so lots of evidence for us!!!

Hi ladies,

I've got a technical question which I hope one of you experts can help me with.

Since I started using the CMFM in June (after starting TTC*2 in January) I have had a 12 day luteal phase. I thought this was a bit on the short side but advice says anything longer than 10 days is ok.

However today I started bleeding on only 10dpo and so am a bit and thinking back I do usually have a couple of days of spotting before full flow which would indicate the uterus lining coming away at 10dpo every month - surely this could mean any fertilised egg wouldn't have the chance to implant?!

I have been reading that B6 can be taken to help with a short LP - has anyone successfully tried this, or do I need a trip to the GP? (Last time I saw her she told me to come back once DH had been for a SA, but he's not obliged as yet and needs more nagging so feel a bit reluctant to go back really).

What do you think - is a LP of 10 days a cause for a GP appointment? Or do I try B6 for a month and see if it improves things?

TIA Pink x