MC a while ago and still TTC, Join in the chat, support and laughter in the 6th Form Common Room for a bit before Grads.

lady You sound how I feel. I had my bloods taken yesterday at my gp for any abnormaliites- the results will take a while to come back. The dr asked if I was going to wait to TTC - until I had been referred. I said no as I see DP infrequently enough as it is - so the chances of us seeing each other at the right time are slim - also if I wait - in the job I am in - I am due to go away next year for 4 - 6 months, without seeing dp at all. If I get pg before that I won't go away. I asked about aspirin too - but no clear answer really. I think I would take it.

I feel a bit low - Dp is home for the weekend, I feel no signs of OV and the next time we see each other is in 2 weeks, so if we miss any eggs in between, that's another month gone- and already in december.

clareanna thanks for the reply - think I will book another appt for next week. Dp said for £35 a go - he would stick needles in me -think he has acupuncture mixed up with voodoo!!

Well I need to and try and look presentable before I pick DP up. Sorry for the crappy depressing post - will try and come back with a better one xxx

ladybee when I went to the epu she said if I wanted to keep trying while i waited for testing then if I got pg 'it wouldn't hurt' to take 75mg of aspirin a day from day of bfp. That's low-dose or junior aspirin.

My thinking is this: I have to wait two cycles in order to test for clotting and chromosome issues. It's unlikely I'll get pg in the first two cycles. If I do then the treatment for clotting is aspirin (I've read some docs also prescribe heparin) - it is also something I can safely take whether I know I've got clotting issues or not. The chromosome thing is not treatable. If they find either dh or I are carrying a genetic prob that is causing our babies to miscarry then it is simply a matter of probability whether we pass it onto the next conception. We would see a genetic counselor who would then give us our odds eg 1 in 4 chance of conceiving a healthy baby. In which case I've already had my one healthy pregnancy out of four with ds. We would then weigh up the chances of continuing to ttc knowing how often I am likely to miscarry.

So with that in mind. We're going to carry on ttc, in all likelihood two cycles will pass and I'll have the tests done.

Bee - Here is your massive and very much deserved squeeze: {squish}

I know what you mean about feeling meh. I think you're right about going to argue the toss with the consultant because even if they say no, they might give you a good reason why which would at least give you some peace of mind so you can ttc without driving yourself nuts worrying.

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battery, barrenbrook, hippychick hugs to you all. I'm in completely 'meh' state at the moment. I think having gone through all the waiting to get tested, then waiting for the results, then getting a result and having the potentiality for some treatment effectively removed. Well. It's all a bit demotivating.

I want to get pregnant. But I don't think I can stand getting pregnant and losing it and wondering whether I wouldn't have if the consultant had agreed to treat with anti-clotting. I know I have to argue this with the consultant, and I know I probably can build a case for it. But FFS. Frankly, I'm sick to death of things not being easy, for having to fight, for having to research. I would like it to work out in my favour.

DH would look at this post and say, "but so much works out for you, for us, we're lucky". And I expect we are. But it doesn't feel like it right now. I'm on another 2ww and I can't stand the swinging between hope and despair.

I was going to apologise for dumping just then, but actually I'm not sorry, I know that you ladies will understand that I've read your posts and nodded and wanted to squeeze you and I know that you'll do the same to this one. And getting it out will help me a little to go on. Which is what I need to do, isn't it. Just not give up.

Big squeezes to bb and battery
battery hope viv will be along soon because think she did acupuncture. From memory I think they sometimes like to see you weekly through one cycle, and then they drop the no of treatments down x

battery at the thought of you crying all the way there and back. Hope it was cathartic in some way. I found after my MMC in Feb that a good old cry did help get it all out. I don't think i cried much with the early loss in June (I hadn't had such expectations I guess) big hugs to you (((_))) Nite Nite. x

Hello all :)

bb - everyone has shit days -you have every right to have a rant. I feel like it most days too at the moment.... just stuff like planned holidays around when the baby would have been here etc, courses at work that I wouldn't have had to go on because of being pg, but now I will have to go on - its all the plans that are associated with being pg that are sad too - does that make sense?

Acupuncture was really good - I cried all the way there, all the time I was there and all the way back too. Think it was because there was only one reason why I was going and that was because my little beans this year have not stuck :(

Anyhow, the needle lady wants to see me weekly which will be quite pricey - how often does everyone else go?

wave to everyone - sorry not to name check but am worn out today - I have an appointment with my GP tomorrow who wants me to be referred and I will also ask about aspirin then too xx

BB don't apologise for whinging - blimey that's what we're all here for. It is so unfair when there are people getting up the duff left right and centre and not even wanting the damn babies.

I think failing to get pregnant or hold on to a pregnancy is one of the hardest things to deal with because it is so out of ones control.

Most things in life can be gained by hard work or saving up or studying etc but this is just in the lap of the gods and that's what makes it so hard to deal with.

Chin up, Mrs. xx

Thanks hippy it's crap for us all, it's just so bloody unfair. Sorry for whinging and thank you for understanding. The hospital told me to try aspirin last time so will def be giving it a go from BFP next time. Think digi was going to try it too so no mix up! x

BB you have every right to feel shit my dear. 2 years and nothing to show except heartache is so so unfair. I was feeling bad cos it's been over a year and all I have is two MC's to show for that time - but you've trumped me and I feel humble now . I know I'm so lucky to have my two DS's as well. (saw Madelaine McCanns mum on TV this morning and that made me feel very lucky to have my boys as well ).

BB You are so strong and so determined and, if there is any justice at all - your next little bean will be very sticky. I might be getting you a bit confused with digi - did you say you're gonna use asprin next time you get a BFP as well as her or have you had the test for the sticky blood thing and got the all clear????

Just bumping us back up, seem to have fallen down the list too far!

How is everyone? digi how you holding up hun? Hope you're doing OK chick x

hippy sorry RTD arrived, mine is on it's way so will be joining you soon enough.

tigger Sorry cycles are mucking you about again and the RTD got you. As for arranging a private appointment I assume you should just try and get the consultant's secretary's number and ring them and keep ringing until you get what you want. If you're paying I presume they will return your call! Good luck and let us know how you get on.

prettymrsg hola, good idea about the break, it'll do you good and like you say you can do whatever you want over Christmas and New Year and it's guaranteed you will be diffed in the New Year having been smashed for most of the festive period and having eaten copious amounts of blue cheese and all the other stuff we're not supposed to eat. Hurrah! How's the hands doing by the way?

Ladybeeboo WTF? You've been told you have FVL which is a contributing factor to mc but yet they won't treat it?! eh? Is there any way of getting treatment elsewhere by being referred to someone else? That's not right surely!!!

battery how did the accupuncture go? I've been having it for the last year or so now and I am convinced it's what got me going again after 1st mmc and I have been super fertile since then as kept it up, I just can't make a bean stick.

Waves to jolls, urd, viv, moo and 8s. Sorry if I've missed anyone, it's because I am lazy just on to get tickets for Kings of Leon at Hyde Park and then off out to walk the mutt.

Fecked right off with TTC and babies at the moment, can't be arsed with it all, it's nearly two years since my first mmc and all I've got to show for it is another 3 mmc afterwards and no baybee. It's bullshit!

Anyhoo, sorry for depressiveness of post, will come back soon with a new wave of positivity

digi - I'm so dreadfully sorry, honey. I hope you're being kind to yourself and that you and DH are looking after each other x

Love and hugs to battery too x

Just popped on quickly and don't have time to name check, sorry. The old witch arrived for me on Friday - yawn yawn - i hate her

digi so so sorry my love. It is so totally unfair. Will you be getting all the test? Thinking of you and sending hugs. XX

Digi I am really sorry to hear this is happening again to you. I was holding out hope for you, its so cruel. Been thinking about you lots x x

Battery its old the TTC routines that are particularly depressing after a MC. I remember hauling out the thermometer and CBFM and just feeling so tired of it all - and it drives home the unfairness and sadness of what has happened. You have been doing so well though, hoping it happens for you soon x

Hope everyone else is doing ok. I've been feeling really yucky so haven't been on much. When I'm feeling better I'll be back as usual.

Hi Digi sorry to hear your news.

Battery - I did accupunture for a while it made me feel quite tired and relaxed but didn't do much good for what it was intended for.

RTD got me on friday morning. Am a bit depressed about it because it means I was 29 days last cycle and 25 this. I don't see how it can be normal to have such a wide spread particularly as I was on the hour to the minute every 28 days prior to the mc. Does anyone know how you go about arranging a private appointment with a consultant? I've never done it before and I don't think they really dealt with this at all the cycle monitoring that I went through.

Morning! Bless you batteryhen positive thoughts, my friend can't speak highly enough of the needle people x

digi so sorry, just wanted you to know I'm thinking of you. x x x

Thank christ it's the weekend, I was close to sleeping at my desk this week. See Dr yesterday morning, lovely lady bless her. Was straight on the phone to the consultants at St Mary's looking for guidance and agreeable to an early scan.

Love to all & happy weekend x

day even. See - I can't even spell today :(

morning everyone -just off to my first accupuncture session - I feel sad as I should be 14 weeks pregnant now - not off trying new things to get me pregnant and stay pregnant [sigh]

Have a good dya xxx

Digi so sorry for you and batteryhen too

and sorry to have to welcome you getdown

MrsPrtty wot's this about some shopping - aa new house that's serious retail therapy, I'm impressed

Right must go to bed, MN is good n'all but not much chance of some getting upduffed staring a pooter screen

Big hugs to everyone

Digi and battery just wanted to drop by and say again how sorry I am.

Pretty a break sounds good to me. I'm not doing well on this round I'm still early on...

Got a copy of the letter my consultant sent to my GP, basically saying yes she's got this Leiden Factor V thing, but we won't treat it. Yet. I guess I need to have another MC before he'll consider it to be factor. Goodo.

digi so sorry x

Digi I was just thinking about you. I am so sorry hun x

Digi sorry to hear that, thinking of you

Hey digi

I am so sorry that this is happening to you again. I am at a loss to reason why crap things happen to good people, especially those who are / would make lovely mummies. Am with you on the aspirin, I am seeing my Gp on thursday for referral etc, and might ask him about it then. I can't see that it would do much harm.

I am thinking of you my lovlie xxx

Just updating. Definitely miscarrying again .

If I get another 60 day WTF cycle, I will hopefully have seen a consultant by the time the next egg hatches - maybe they'll advise aspirin or something for next time.

Round 4, ding ding.

bh bet you get an egg soon. I think you're body seems to be pretty in tune with your dh's schedule. Perhaps it's to do with you not living together?