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We're not obsessing, we're Just Shagging! Part III

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BrassicaBabe · 03/09/2010 15:27

The 'rules' from our Just Shagging Originator

Maintain a relaxed attitude at all times - drink if you want too, especially on your birthday. Thread precedent dictates if you drink to excess you will get a BFP (but not recommended)

Covet thy husband and enjoy every minute. Shag at ever opportunity - shag-capes and awesome superpowers optional.

Resist the lure of ovulation predictor kits, Taking Control of Your Fertility and the dreaded First Repsonse. Knowing where you are in your cycle is entirely permissible though!

Going to the doctor is permitted if you've had a stupidly long cycle but beware of the dildo-cam-scan.

Keep acronmyage to a minimum! EWCM is now to be referred to as 'pant snot'.

Keep us up to date with gossip!

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Although all most of these rules are well and truely broken!! But we try to chill - honest

Part 1 Graduates:
Tanmu82 - BFP
PrivetDancer - BFP
OnlyWantsOne - BFP
Frankenfanny ? BFP
Notso - BFP
knittakid - BFP
loopeylu - BFP
PinkFondantFancy - BFP
Grannyapple ? BFP
Fuzzywood - BFP
canoe - BFP
janedoe - BFP
StarflowerGirl - BFP

Part 2 Graduates:
ihaveaplan - BFP
lovemylulu - BFP
shitforbrains - BFP
gormers - BFP

Shout if I've missed anyone.

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BrassicaBabe · 24/09/2010 11:29

Maybe a course of antibiotics will knock the infection on the head josie...

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JosieSmith1 · 24/09/2010 11:20

Still haven't caught up with everyone properly, will do soon I promise

Have appt at dentist on Monday but have discovered that it's definitely infected so am swilling salt water willy nilly as definitely don't want it out! It explains the pain though, but now I know it's infected I'm very squeamish about it! It bled a bit but is ok now.

Hope everyone is doing ok, will probs catch up tonight as work is busy but DH is working late so plentying MNing time for me tonight

P.S. more JSing this morning! There's something in the water in my house at the minute!

NervousNelly · 24/09/2010 10:40

Oh I'm glad the positives list has cheered you all up so much!

Just about to check out of hotel, one more night somewhere (don't know where yet!) so might not be back on internet till Im hom on Sunday. brassica the bloody best of luck for the MIA period :)

Keep singing girls, see you on the other side (of the channel that is Wink). Enjoy the weekend JS Grin

takethatlady · 24/09/2010 10:10

Hi guys. Sending more hugs to everyone having a crappy time and loving miffles's positive vibes :)

Went to the doctor this morning. He said it may just be that I have long cycles and that this is not necessarily a problem, as long as I'm ovulating. But just in case I'm not ovulating normally he's giving me all the tests. So once I get my period I have to have a blood test during days 3-5 for LH and FSH (hormones) and then a blood test on day 21 for progesterone. If that comes back above 25 I've ovulated. If not I have to come back every 7 days until either the progesterone shoots up or I get my period, and then come in an discuss all the results.

It sounded like he might be able to prescribe me Clomid if I need it without me having to go to a gynaecologist. He didn't say so but it seemed very much as if it would all be dealt with at the doctor's surgery.

So here is my list of positives (loving these by the way):

  1. I haven't properly celebrated finishing my book and today I can for a boozy lunch with friends before going for boozy dinner with DH and then downing the bottle of champagne that's in the fridge (am skiving off work Grin)
  1. Did I mention I can drink guilt free? Counts as a double bonus I reckon.
  1. I only properly started my new job three weeks ago and I do not have to lie my head off pretending I'm not pregnant when I am. I can also use alcohol to get to know new colleagues, rather than being the boring sober one in the corner Grin
  1. I have a commute of over an hour to work, and DH goes half an hour in the other direction. We can't sell our house but the longer I'm not pregnant the more chance we have of moving before I have to go back to work.
  1. I have bought my mum a champagne spa day for her 50th in December. If I was pregnant I couldn't have the champagne or the 60-minute massage - I'd be stuck with a boring old sober pedicure.
  1. I will not be spending my first term in my new job throwing up on my students, or throwing up in the car on the way to work.
  1. I have more months where my body will not be being wrecked by pregnancy (no offence to all those who've had babies - I'm sure your bodies are beautiful. Mine is going to get wrecked, I bet!)
  1. My boobs are not sore and can therefore be manhandled willy-nilly by DH.

Hope you're feeling okay vallinna - it's a big step but such a proactive one and it's going to give you a better chance each cycle of conceiving than most of us have naturally, so if that's the road you go down I just want to wish you the best of luck. You're an icon of JSing!

BrassicaBabe · 24/09/2010 08:59

I hope your appointment goes well this morning takethat. Stage a sit-in until you get a decent answer! Grin

No period yet. The last 2 cycles it's been here on waking. "Yells "Come on!!!!!!!!!" in a scarey American Marine kinda way!" Stop fecking around now. If this is going to be CD1 then make it CD1 and get on with it!!!

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JosieSmith1 · 24/09/2010 08:54

My positive:

Can do anything I want with horsey without worrying about causing damage to non existant unborn baby

So sorry to hear your news Vallinna, hope you get your head around it soon.

Sorry to hear that everyone seems to be having a s**t time at the moment Sad

I have a dentist appt on monday but because I haven't been for over a year it's a check up, then I can make an appt to have my sore tooth seen to! I'm going to demand something is done about it while I'm there. Even if they say it's normal and to jst cope with it at least it's been looked at.

Eskarina · 24/09/2010 07:37

I love the song!
It's too early in the morning to have a list of positives (am really really not a morning person) Plus my nursery nurse has just called in sick (she's amazing and it's the first time she's been ill in the 2 years I've worked there) so the first thing I'll have to do this morning is sort out someone to cover her.

Actually, there's a positive. I'm crap at mornings. Babies like mornings. No baby yet means undisturbed mornings (and nights!)

Miffles · 23/09/2010 23:10

It's too late, after catching up with the dramas of the day, to write anything individually.

But we will get there, viroids. We will. By hook or by crook! Forget this month. Get shagging. Keep enjoying your DH and the things you have now. Try not to worry - it only causes harm.

And sing the "Always look on th bright side of AF" song at the top of your voice!!

Grin

I feel like I'm actually more advanced then many of you - as have been TTC for 10 months. And have never had a regular cycle in that time! Shock. But it has taught me to let go of the obsessiveness a bit. Whether I'll still be telling you all to be positive, or asking for the thread kipper, once I've seen the consultant, we will see. Hmm

vallinnapod · 23/09/2010 23:10

Ladies, once again your support is fanbloodytastic!

I too resort to bucking my ideas and spirits up and LOVE the positives lists so:

  1. I will hit the wine, guilt free, tomorrow EVEN though I am running on Sunday!
  2. DH will be treated as a human rather than a sperm donor, and genuinely believe it (as opposed to him believing I am only after him for his boys!)
  3. At least 2 weeks without a camara shoved up my chuff (although may have to have a blood test for infectious diseases, nice! But DH has to suffer that too!)
  4. I will stop obsessing....well...aim to Wink
NervousNelly · 23/09/2010 21:12

haha milano I just read another thread about bee pollen! I'm now wondering why just honey doesn't do it though (I'm not obsessed with honey normally, it's just that the stuff here is all lavendar honey and gorgeous :) )

milanomum · 23/09/2010 21:01

vallinna I really hope you get on the IVF option - I know a girl who was on clomid for a while and then went pretty much straight to IVF and she is due in november! On the positive side, it means no more time-wasting so that can only be a good thing. (((wine hugs)))

nervous boo hiss to AF! go and get horrendously drunk with brassica.

I love the list, It should be sung to the tune of "Always look on the bright side of life". There's definitely an air of Monty Python on this thread :o

I'm in full shag fest this week and hoping my pre-seed will do its magic (resists writing something about 'wands').
I succumbed to Google and bought bee pollen a few days ago which i have been gagging munching on since.

NervousNelly · 23/09/2010 20:31

Hurrah for cycle-buddies brassica. You've reminded me of another plus, which is it gives me another month of folic-acid taking, which I really only started about 6 weeks ago (I believe you're supposed to take it for 3 months before conception? I presume it needs to "load up" in your system Confused).

truffkin I think everything is trumped by drunken-ness Grin

BrassicaBabe · 23/09/2010 18:22

That's crappy news vallinna. Althought I reckon IVF would involve less appointments and dildocams than you've recently endured Wink The Austin Powers laser doesn't sound like much fun. So glad DH isn't a 100 year old obses chain smoker Grin Much hugs to do.

What a good list nervous. If it helps it'll be CD1 for me tomorrow. So we get to drive everyone nuts be cycle buddies next month too! I seem to be on a 26 day cycle and I think you are catching up.

My positive list:

  1. I get to drink for at least another fortnight without guilt
  2. I've got another month to lose a few pounds so that my post-pregancy weight will be one I want to aim for Grin (I've been telling myself this every month)
  3. I can stop peeing on every inanimate object in sight sticks now [relieved emoticon]
  4. Knowing I'm not pg this month is much saner than the 2WW
  5. DH JIAR test would have been for no reason if I'd got knocked up this month.

Sex-ed should go...So you can get pg the first time you have next. But the next 100 times might be a pisser!

So it's been a pretty shitting few weeks days. I promise now to cheer the fuck up and try to make you lot smile.

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Truffkin · 23/09/2010 17:57

Sorry to hear you are having to make such a tough choice Vallinna although your well-explained logic appears entirely sound Wink Although I won't lie to you, the ovary laser thing made me feel a little nauseous. Good luck for your death by running marathon

Nervous loving the list and don't forget that a shorter cycle means the 2WW isn't really 2W so another plus for you (although I think the drunkeness trumps this really)

Welcome CoCoPopsMonkey and hope you're not here long (in the nicest possible way Smile) Make sure you are back on a more upbeat day when things are not as bleak.

takethatlady · 23/09/2010 16:46

Sorry to hear about AF nervous but loving your list of positives :) I second what you say about bloody sex-ed too. Also if you've got heavy, irregular cycles when you're 16 but you've been having periods for four years they shouldn't stick you on the pill and let you mask the problem for 11 years - they should frigging well sort it out! (Tbh though I went on the pill so I could shag, not for health reasons!)

Really sorry vallinna about what's happening to you. But IVF is at least proactive. Big big hugs to you x

NervousNelly · 23/09/2010 16:26

Oh vallinna just saw your post - what a horrible choice to have to make :(

They really should spend less time in sex-ed warning us about unwanted teenage pregnancies, and more time encouraging us to get at it, as who knew it was so complicated (and expensive Shock).

NervousNelly · 23/09/2010 16:18

Welcome choco, it is a bit of a down day today but normally it's fun (as much as is possible in what can be trying circumstances!)

So despite me beginning to hope it was a false alarm - nope, CD1 for me :(. This is clearly not what I wanted, and 3 days earlier than normal, but I have compiled a list of why this is good news Hmm

  1. It makes my iphone app earn it's keep
  2. I can get properly pissed for the end of my holidays
  3. It means I probably ov'd earlier than i thought this month, which in turn(due to long hours at work before hols) means I probably missed the window. THIS is why I'm not pregnant, not that my eggs are 140 years old Wink
  4. It will be over by wednesday, which is the 10 year anniversary of when OH and I met. Anticipating some cheeky JS for me, yippee Grin
  5. I don't have to buy any tests this month Pls ignore fact that lillets cost money too Wink
  6. I don't have to come up with a clever foreign name for my (now non-existent) conceived-in-exotic-location child.
  7. I can take ibuprofen to try to quell the itch of the dozen mysterious insect bites that are driving me NUTS Angry
  8. Shorter cycles mean more opportunities to JS Grin
vallinnapod · 23/09/2010 16:14

So, after numerous drugs, no booze for nearly 4 weeks, several scans and some threatened violence on my part towards the clinc, nothing is happening. Basically they don't think the drugs will work (which leaves me with 2 cycles if Letrozole that cost us however much....) I certainly know how to pick consultants as my one is now away until 11th October...so we have an appointment for 12th to discuss the next steps.

The nurse said the next step would be lazering the ovaries or IVF.

The lazer thing is called a diathemy (or something like that) and involves them making several incisions with a lazer into each ovary. For some reason this seems to make them work again. Can't for the life of my see why.

They do have this special IVF package which offers you two chances to achieve a live birth for an all-inclusive price as long as you fit their criteria (which I do - seems like the man could be 100, obsese and a chain-smoking alcoholic and it doesn't matter!)

To be honest the cost of the frickin' lazer (to be said a la Austin Powers), the time and then all the scans, blood test etc will probably make IVF the better option. I would hope they would want someone like me on that programme (young-ish, slim, no real medical problem bar this fundalmetal one....) as I reckon I help make their stats look good.

Bit upset to be in this position :o(

Any way....if only I didn't have a half marathon on Sunday I would just get drunk.

Chocoflakes · 23/09/2010 15:14

Thankyou for the welcome, suppose it was a bit of a bad day for me too! But as you said Brassicababe, at least things are moving in there!
It is a worry now i'm OLD (37)and trying again, how different it will all be. I had PSOD in my early 20's and didn't have a period for 18mnths, then one day I did and my daughter was concieved.
It really doesn't seem that long ago but now we have the internet and so (maybe too) much information to access!
But one thing is great, this site and all the help everyone gives.

takethatlady · 23/09/2010 14:59

Hey chocoflakes and welcome. Sometimes we have a lot of fun on this thread, but you've joined us on a rare Sad day. Sorry for that!

Yes that was a nice response from ATM brassica. Now I google more and see that Clomid is nigh-on impossible to wring out of a GP. FFS. Need to stop googling before I diagnose myself with any more problems I may not have, get het up about doctors who may or may not prescribe me drugs for the problems I may not have, and start feeling I'm older and crustier and less likely to conceive every time I look in the mirror.

Just want to go in there, be given a load of Clomid, and get preg next cycle Grin

vallinnapod · 23/09/2010 14:53

I don't mind brassica, they speak to the doc first and then they call. My guess is it will be a little third wheel if I say I want to do something different to what they have been told but I resigned to that. So far they have been really well informed.

Welcom to the madness chocoflakes - GL finding anyone sticking to the original ethos Wink

BrassicaBabe · 23/09/2010 14:50

It's good news though that AF came so quickly choco? At least you are on CD1 and you now have a starting point. I'm sure it's only drinking that gets me through this TTC lark! Weclome too! Grin

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Chocoflakes · 23/09/2010 14:48

Hi everyone :)

A bit about me; I have DD 15 and DS 13, my OH has one of each too and we have decided to have a baby together.
I stopped taking the pill mid cycle on Sunday and stupidly got my hopes up but seems AF came this morning.

I love the fact that we can and will still have a drink (or 2) while TTC,and have fun too!!

I wish you all the best of luck.
xxx

BrassicaBabe · 23/09/2010 14:46

Awh, that's a nice answer from scarey lady- ATM takethat. But you just aren't going to stop charting are you HmmGrin

It's easy to understand why folks buy fertility drugs from the internet seeing the grief we all go through.

Bollocks for no change on dildocam vallinna. How do you feel about a nurse calling you rather than a doc? Do you know what you want them to do next?

Misery loves company so the daft saying goes crow. Grin I'm old and crusty too, so you aren't alone Wink

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crowette · 23/09/2010 14:21

Hallo Ladies :)

What a nightmare we all seem to be having :(

I've stopped bleeding now, going to get some JSing in just cos I can, and I know it's unlikely that I'll conceive this month ... my body is playing games, so I have no idea where my cycle is at. I may invest in some OPK tomorrow - I'm old and crusty, so I haven't got the luxury of just waiting Grin