Symptom spotting part 2 - Home of the suspicious boobs and other strange goings on!

Its an interesting question about how far you are willing to go. DH and i were talking about this the other night and I said to him how long will we do this for and he didnt catch my drift so I said well what if we get 18 months down the line and still no baby DD will be nearly 5 and even if we were lucky the next month add onto that the 9 month pregnancy DD will be even older again and is that what we want. Im hoping to get back to work but not till DC are settled in school, the longer it takes to conceive the longer that takes.

I dont think I would go down the route of any fertility treatment be it clomid or ivf or anything big or small, dont think I could deal with not only the nature of it all, find a smear bad enough never mind anything else, but also the time it takes to go from one thing to the next. The ladies here who have gone through so much in terms of MC's and appointments and treatments to find out what is going on, im in awe of you all but I havent got the strength to go through it. I admire you massively, I think you are amazing.

arthurs i think the gym is a great idea. Im sure it will do you the world of good. my friend from work joined 1 a few weeks ago and she is encouraging me to join but i dont know where id find the time. I work full time and i am always too tired when i get home and after ive made dinner i couldnt be arsed doing anything.i also find it so much harder come winter to motivate myself lol my friend has 3 dcs though and she said she loves using the swimming pool at the gym and having some time to herself to relax,so i def get what you mean re the me time.

Every time i hear the name percy it makes me think of the percy the park keeper books that i read to ds. Jemima is a name i havent heard in a long time-as a matter of fact i dont know anyone called that in RL. Whatever happened to individuality??
I hate all those names that every other child you meet is called.

Just a wee update on me: we went to see consultant today. Saw a diff one from last time and she was so lovely and sympathetic. Dps results are on the lower side of normal. We discussed our options. She thinks i still may not be ovulating. she asked me if i wanted to go back on clomid.Said they would give me a higher dosage than last times and carry out follecular tracking,which would mean me going to the hosp for scans every few days. She said this would be my last dose of clomid and that if scans showed multiple follicules they would advise us not to 'try' that month due to risk of multiple pregnancy and other risks. I really dont see the point of taking the higher dosage just incase we get alot of follicules and cant try anyway.also the clomid gives me horrible side effects. I declined,and said i would like to go it alone for another while to see if it happens naturally. she wants to see me again in 6 months time,and if it doesnt happen by then we will discuss assisted conception,and referral re ivf. She said we need to talk about how far we are willing to go to have another baby as we would have to pay for ivf as we have one dc already. We did not even need to think about the answer as we will do whatever it takes to have a little brother or sister for ds.
So for now we are just hoping for the best. we are both going to cut out caffeine,dps going to stop smoking and we are off to tesco later to buy ov tests,nicotine patches and decaf coffee.
We know we need to count our blessings and be thankful that we are lucky enough to have one beautiful son,when there are some people in the world who are unable to have any.

Sorry for the rambling post girls

Boo and hiss to the af assassin, I have a feeling now that yours has arrived mine will too. And don't worry about the tmi - nothing is ever tmi where pregnancy and ttc are concerned I am sure!

I love the name Jasper! I am also rather fond of Percy but DH has veto'd it, along with Jemima for a girl. Didn't like someone at college with same name.

I have done something positive today by joining the gym, I was going last year following gp referral but couldn't afford to continue but I have made a space in my finances and am back into it again. I think it will good for me, physically and emotionally, bit of a chance to distance myself from the home life and just be me for a while.

Hi everyone

Well af showed up yesterday, sorry in advance for tmi but its been totally unlike normal!! usually starts 3-4 days of spotting then very clotty bleeding after that. day 2 is always a nitemare. This month i spotted red and it turned up properly the next day, and its not clotty at all. I wonder did the hsg do this and im finally having a normal healthy af?? i am not letting myself mope about it anymore-so its onwards and upwards for me for this new cycle with lots of bding and happy thoughts

Rad how can you have so much self control with the not poas-ing! i really hope you get your bfp this month. surely the peppers thing is a good sign!!

arthurs im loving the old school names too,but dp is having none of it. I love the name jasper but dp said someone he knew when he was younger had a dog called jasper so thats a def no no

Thank you for your kind words radley - if I can't make myself laugh about it all I just keep sobbing, which is much worse!

Re: names, we had decided on Arthur, and then discovered that it cropped up now and again in DH's family, if we have another DS the top two names in the frame are Stanley and Barnaby - I want to stick to old school - never goes out of fashion!

What flavour is the new car? Very exciting!

arthur does have a lovely turn of phrase doesn't she!

radley - just bloody test! How can you stop yourself?

Its Day 40 in arthursmum's knickers and still no sign of AF...

The thing is, I keep getting that sort of bubbling feeling that comes just before period arrives but nowt's coming out.

At this rate, when the dam finally bursts I am fearful that it will come in such a rush I will be shot off my office chair and smack my head on the ceiling.

Sorry about the spotting assassin - AF is just teasing you now, and will probably wait until you are wearing some really nice knickers before blossoming forth!

radley - it sounds a bit late for implantation bleeding, but I had some spotting the other day that wasn't implantation (I did get the mystical implantation spotting this time at around 10 DPO) so it could be the same as that? Some women bleed all the way through pregnancy.

assassin - haha, I do apologise. I think I'm slightly obsessed with hcg levels at the moment with all the pregnancy tests I have taken. Sorry to hear the witch is on it's way. Fingers crossed for next month.

good luck to all with big or sore boobs :-)

Hi everyone

arthurs your posts make me laugh so much at marquees, and pmsl at the post where you may have made "a little bit of sick erupt in our throats"

Row you had me doubting myself there-i was starting to get embarrassed that i had asked the wrong person about the hsg lol
Good to hear that the horrible sickness has left you alone so far!

Thanks everyone for your lovely messages.

Radley you nearly made me cry, your post was so lovely-thank you

Well i have starting spotting so i think af is going to show up shortly.im so glad cause i hate all this hanging about not knowing and at least we can concentrate on next cycle.We've to go get dps SA results on friday so fingers crossed everyone!!!

Bossy i think thats a really good idea to print the old thread off,i wouldnt mind having a read of it myself. I dont have a printer at home thought so will wait until a day when my boss is not in the office and print it off then. Im sure we will get some giggles and tears from it.

Rad i cant believe you havent tested yet,though i can understand your reluctance. good luck for when you do test-you will be our next bfp im sure!!

If we are on boobs mine aren't sore, but they do seem to have got larger and puffy round the sides (as in where your boob goes into the bit under your arm) - they are already a size 40G so if they get any bigger I am going to have to stitch together a pair of marquees to use as a bra!

Loving the name hairy!

lol @ david cameron the name stealing git!

hairy youve got me doing a boob check now! I dont even know if ive ovulated yet never mind any symptoms!

I have sore boobs. Not the usual sore nips (which I have got) but the actual boobs themselves. I am vein spotting. Just needed to get that off my chest

Howdy all - still no AF chez Arthursmum, just wish the bugger would turn up now. Thanks for the kind words jazz, we are very fond of his name, although shortly after we gave it to him bloody David Cameron had a baby and called him Arthur. And now he has had a girl and called her Florence, which was one of my shortlist names in case I ever have a DD - name stealing git.

Everything sounds right with you addicted but I can understand your reluctance to test - you are in my thoughts, as are all the ladies on the thread, whether pg, not pg, grumpy or homicidal - you are not alone!!

assassin - I have just realised that you said hsg and not hcg - doh - sorry! Nope, I had a lap and dye and it didn't affect my cycle at all.

Hi allthatjazz! Been ducking in and out, trying not to get too obsessed this time - yeah right! Im on CD16 - I said I wouldnt count but couldnt help but check!

Decided to print the old thread off as it was like a diary of ttc journey and thought in the future when sat with the baby I so longed for I would find all this hilarious! It was 134 pages long I thought I could shorten it by just printing from when I entered the thread but that was page 5 or something like that, it was quite early so had to print the lot! Havent read it, but one day I will

Got bright red spotting last night so was fuming that AF had arrived as was convinced that my symptoms were all positive signs!

I fully expected a full on AF this morning but nothing I am now also hoping for implantation as yesterday was 13 dpo i think! Maybe i ovulated very late this month and will have a 45 day cycle

I think in the 2ww you can convince yourself of anything

hey bootyboop I somehow have totally missed you! Are you in the 2ww now? Hope all is well. Sorry to everyone else I've missed

hey arthurs ooh I really hope its implantation :) dp and I will be getting back in the saddle too. Think I will just have to put up with feeling crap and not knowing why :( p.s arthur is a fab name. If we have another ds he would be called arthur :) row so glad all is ok. Cycles so erratic im not 100% sure. Im feeling very sorry for myself my boobs hurt and I have cramps :(

Oh no assassin, I also really thought it was your time, its awful isnt it, every month we convince ourselves but then you get that month where you really really believe its going to be and its hard when its not.

Come on Radley we are relying on you here to get a bfp now, we all need our spirits lifted to give us all some hope! Ive good a good feeling about you this time, would be amazing after everything youve said.

oh and thanks for all enquiring how I am, I'm good, no sickness yet but still getting BFPs on my ovulation tests (cheapies, may as well use them up, even if not for ovulation). DS has turned into a monster however, radley - did you say you had a Dec 08 boy as well? Does he throw tantrums at just about everything?

I was convinced assassin was going to get a BFP as well. Where has the hsg come from?

radley, sounding promising! I can't believe you have managed to still wait to test. Respect!

jazz - a big boo to your BFN as well. How late are you now?

arthur fingers crossed it is implantation and not the witch

Hey jazz, sorry about the BFN, but welcome back. Like you, I have been having odd pains in my right side, and am also "easily annoyed". I have pretty much written it off as pre AF symptoms. Was sure I was coming on in M&S today but when I got home !!tmi warning!! I had just some brown tinged cm. I will give you all a moment to swallow down that bit of sick that may have erupted into your throat before I continue... Bound to be AF, but wishful thinking says 'ooh ovulating or implantation' - reality means surfs up. Hey ho, guess me and DH have to get back in the saddle...

Hi all. Sorry I havent checked in have been feeling confused and crap tbh. So sorry to hear about the bfns. It is truly heartbreaking. I have my own bfn stick to join the club. Am gutted like assassin i have symptoms but no af here and no bfp. Symptoms are sore boobs and crampy odd pains on my right side. Cant lie on my front feels odd and im rather easily annoyed fuming angry not me at all. Also still lots of creamy white thin cm. What should I do? Admit defeat? My cycles are so erratic I dont know whats going on :( how is everyone, assassin arthurs how is it going row? Sounds so promising radley good luck :) I'm so impressed you are still holding out.