Charters Anonymous : Volume 2

I made it to DPO13 which isn't too bad I suppose. But I knew I wasn't pg because of the temp drop, so it was silly really. I suppose I just wanted to see it there in pink and white :o Fingers crossed for you on Monday.

Think i am going to take all of your advice and wait till DPO14 - its more fun seeing what the temps are doing anyway and tbh i think that is a more accurate way of seeing if you are indeed pg (plus will save me fortunes on HTP's).

saladbomb every month i say i am going to wait till the day RTD is due to test but i never do. Next month will be doing FF so maybe will resist the urge then.

Ell11 thats heartening to hear you tested positive so late (it also may be why they cant see anything yet as implantation may have taken a while and you only tested positive two or three days afterwards) I am going to wait three days and do it again. I seem to remember with DD3 testing on the day RTD was due and you could hardly see the second line so i think she was another late implantationer i think. DS on the other hand i found out 4 days early (he must have sprinted down the fallopian tube ) so i suppose it depends on the pg - am really really hoping there is something positive to see tomorrow - the rising hcg levels are a good sign though and they have ruled out another ectopic thank god. Will be thinking of you tomorrow.

hippy although :( about your thyroid, sounds like a good thing you have a diagnosis? I hope thats how you feel about it anyway. Sounds to me like the medication is going to be a bit of a revelation :o

Fingers crossed for you tomorrow ell11 Must be a mare not knowing. I hope very much it goes well and there is more to see.

And for you rosie try and hold out til after RTD is due (wishes I had taken own advise)

Well, RTD came this morning so am a bit gutted but at least I was prepared for it. I am quite amazed at how accurate it all is really. Girding my loins (so to speak) for next month.

empty I am guessing being here is not what you need right now but I hope you are ok.

Ell - sounds very strange. Thinking of you and hope everything goes ok.

Hippy - my thyroid underactive too. Once you're on the Thyroxine it's business as usual. They just monitor you a bit closer during pregnancy as your dose requirements tend to change and they will check baby more closely in case of any growth issues. But as long as you are medicated you will be fine and you will feel so much better. It was like a lightbulb being switched on for me when I started on it after years of feeling awful and not knowing why.

Thanks all for your thoughts- will let you know how it goes tomorrow.

Rosie, I did a test at 12dpo with a 10miu test and it was negative but a clearblue showed up positive at 16dpo. My temps started getting even higher on 13dpo instead of dropping so keep an eye out for that and hang on! Resist the urge...! Good luck.

Morning ladies, havent posted for a week or so.

Firstly just wanted to say that i am so sorry to Empty :( I havent seen your other thread but you must be devastated :(

Ell11, really keeping my fingers crossed that everything works out for you and that a sac will be more evident on Saturday.

Well i didnt get on at all with my CBFM this month (didnt show a single high) but i did ok with charting i think (for a newbie) Next cycle i will put it all into fertility friend as i have been using a paper chart this month. I was really surprised at how obvious it was when i ov'ed (the opk backed up the temps too) it really works!

Im 11dpo today, did a test and BFN :( It was a 20 miu internet cheapy (which have given me a positive from 8dpo before but that was a chemical pg) and so im not really holding out much hope for this month. Have the usual pre AF cramping but my temps are still high so maybe i will hold off till 14dpo and if they are still high i will test?

ell, how stressful and how bloody annoying not knowing exactly what is going on. Will be thinking of you tomorrow.

to ell11. Thank goodness it wasn't another eptopic. Hope the scan on saturday goes ok.

digi and salad sorry to hear about the temp drops

hippy - I have a slightly underactive thyroid too - am waiting to have my second set of blood tests done in a couple of weeks. I started a thread a while back to get some advice/opinions on it which you might find interesting - in particular this link to some NHS Guidance on what your levels should be if you're trying to get pg. I read that low libido is a symptom too, so perhaps TTC won't be such a chore in the future!

thinking of you ell11 good luck for saturday xxx

ell11 sorry to hear you're having a bad time. hope it's just a wee bit too early and next time they look they will see what you're hoping for. At least they've ruled out another ectopic that must have been so scary for you. Big hugs. xx

Gosh! A lot has happened in a couple of days!

Empty so sorry for you

Don't have very good news about myself either. I went to hospital on Tues with very bad pain (I've had an ectopic before and at high risk of it happening again) and I started spotting prune-coloured blood too. They took my blood and kept me in under observation for 2 nights. A scan (at 5 weeks) showed up nothing. Not even a sac. Had the second blood test this morning and my HCG had more than doubled. Got to have another scan on Saturday and if there's still nothing I'll have another blood test.

I am totally in limbo and have no idea what the hell is going on. They said by 5 weeks you should be able so see a sac so why are my hormones behaving as if there's a baby there? And why am I in pain? (though not as bad as Tuesday). At least they ruled out ectopic - HCG was too high for that which is good as that would be game over for me.

Haven't taken my temp since getting the BFP as I didn't want to see it going down...

Hope those who are post ov get some good results soon!

littlesilver not insensitive at all - i know what you mean. If I have an under active thyroid - good to find out now.

Once I get sorted on the tablets i might realise just how shitty i felt before. And Doc says it will be good for the TTCing cos it will make me feel good all round

And now I have a good reason why i am less than svelte!!!(spelling?)

I would LOVE a big sign saying 'pregnant' ! or a window, yes, a window would really help!

hippy hope you're ok about your results, you might find you feel super energetic if they put you on thyroxine! Look out hippie's DH!

xxx

hippie I'm sorry to hear about that but are you having any comfort from sort of knowing what is making you tired, iyswim? And being able to sort it out? Even though thyroxine isn't ideal? When I got diagnosed with PCOS I was releived, I thought, I KNEW there was somethign wrong and I kept being bloody fobbed off! I hope that doesn't sounds insensitive and I really hope you feel better soon.

I was talking to the (presumably long-dead) swimmers natch.

Got the results of my blood test:-

Doctor says i have an under active thyroid. this is odd cos one of the symtoms is long cycles and not ovulating which fortunately I don't have. She said my body is working twice as hard to produce whatever it is I need and I should be very tired. I said I was tired but I just blamed my DC's .

She wants to do another blood test cos the medication you take - thyroxin is a lifetime thing and she doesn't want to start me on lifetime medication based on one blood test (in case of error). I asked about TTC and she said being on thyroxin could only help with the TTC cos I will feel better in general.

I wondered if this had caused the miscariages and have googled a bit. It seems to mostly refer to miscariages in the second trimester.

Also, I know from my research that 80% of MC's in the over 40's are due to chromosome problems caused by old eggs. So deep down i think i know that is why i've had 2 MC's this year and not the thyroid thing. However, if I get preg again I will have to keep an eye on my thyroid function throughout the pregnancy.

So, once again I'm pleased to announce that Hippy isn't gonna croak today. Seriously, as i went in the door I looked at her face to try to gauge if she had a 'I'm about to tell you that you have cancer' look on it! Ho Hum!

ifatirst, it took me a good 6-8 weeks to get used to checking out my cervix, but once I had it down it was flipping invaluable and I partly credit it with helping me catch the egg the month I ov'd a whole seven days earlier than normal. So do keep going, I'm so glad I did!

Empty, we're thinking of you lovie.

dig, I had a couple of cycles where I positively bellowed at my abdomen "How could you MISS that bloody egg!!!"

I can see your newyearsday - here's mine too:

www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2de1f3 :) It was my first month checking my cervix, so ignore that row (didnt have a clue how to determine what I was feeling, so prob completly wrong!)

I think I worked out how to share my chart:

www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2fae6a

Can you see temps up to today? Hope so.

No I haven't. I really hope she's ok.

I know what you mean, teas but I think I found out later last time which means I got symptoms "earlier". I am starting to feel a bit sicky though. And having lots of early nights. And sore nipples. And super sense of smell. In fact, don't know what more am expecting really! A big flashing arrow over my uterus saying "PREGNANT"?!

Hi ladies, anyone heard anymore from empty ? I hope she's ok.

Sorry some of you are having shitty times, I know there's nothing I can say but I hope you feel more positive soon.

All ok so far here. Still don't feel too bad which is making me twitchy but I am starting to have a touch of heartburn which tortured me last time and my boobs are starting to grow

Trying to keep myself sane for the next 6 weeks is going to be tricky!

Crap news digi and lettuce I know it's not what you will want to hear but at least you have warning before the witch turns up (or at least that's how I like to look at things). Digi did you breastfeed? Just asking bec my GP reckons breastfeeding for a prolonged period (I did for 17 months in total) has knocked my cycles out and they are struggling to recover. DC is nearly 2 now and plenty of my friends got PG whilst breastfeeding but seems that it does affect some of us more than others.

Dani I feel for you for my darling. I used AC to kick start my cycle and now things are still long but at least seem a bit better than they were. I've just booked a course of acupuncture starting Sat to see if that will regulate things for me. Is it something you could try? If not, might you see if the GP can help?

if at first I'm shaking my fist at the nurse for you. How insensitive!

No news here. CD 7 so am trying to be zen like and enjoy the ride until next weekend when I should (fingers crossed) start SWI. I'm hoping I OV on a normal ish day for me as last cycle Mr O got (ahem) sore from me keep on demanding of him. At the end of it he said he never wanted to have sex again .

Bummer salad sorry to see that.

My temps are also very much on a downward drift which doesn't fill me with much hope at all (despite me drinking wine last night in order to artifically elevate my temp). I'm finding every little drop in temp is almost as painful as a BFN, had a mini-cry in the shower this morning and told DH it probably hasn't happened. Feeling a bit heartbroken.

So that's three times since the last MC that we've timed SWI perfectly and nada. And 40-60 day cycles too. Such a long wait till the next egg. danilou Clearly you have been waiting a lot longer than I have - have you tried Agnus Castus? I started taking it this cycle, it's shortened my follicular phase by one whole day. Am hoping to shave a couple more days off next cycle.

Thankfully DS has been a little treasure this morning and made me feel very grateful for what I've got.

hippy one little SWITI will be ok, you can pretend its SFF.

IAFUDS sorry to hear you had a rubbish day yesterday. Today can only be better, no smear tests and no baby cards to write in.

Sorry it's game over for you salad. Best of luck for next month.

I had pains last night and this morning so i think i've Ov'd. My temp went up a bit this morning - it usually goes up a bit the first day and then shoots up even more the next day.

So i think SWI is over for me this month. Of course I now have to do SWITI (shagging with intent to implant!) in about a week!

Gotta tell the embryo that the man is still around and thus it's fine to go ahead and implant. (How old fashioned - why does the embryo care who will be providing the food when it's born )

Hi to everyone. thinking of you empty.

oh dear, game over for another month, i fear. ah well onwards and upwards.....

digi and ifatfirst hope you are feeling more upbeat today.