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I'm here Vjay! Where is everyone are they all hiding to jump out and shout SURPRISE at Ajay tomorrow

Intending to do a proper catch up post today so will see if I make it...at the moment I have a fussing boyhalf rolling over on his playmat...think I need to go rescue him!

omg sabs that thread you were on is classic!

or even plan

moon that is great to think of you starting to pan your wedding and pick a date. Sending you a huge plate of virtual breakfast in bed for tomorrows lie in fest - after all you do need lots of energy xx

Thinking of bakingqeen heaps at the minute especially.

that is just the funniest thing sabs you certainly don't want to be reading about so much frozen food while fasting.xx
ps thanks for the giggle.x

neeko am not disappearing, just have nothing very exciting to say

af should be due for me around next saturday, not feeling any symptoms so think i am out again this month

hope everyone is enjoying their weekend, i looove bank holidays, and extra day of laying in will look like a goddess by tomorrow morning :)

oh something a little exciting, my df and i are planning to go back to the hotel we want to get married in later on next week to set a date

And I posted it on such a rude thread - not a thread I should be reading when I'm fasting

And they havent deleted it yet

HELP!

Hi, hope everyone is having a good weekend. Just a quick one from me to say I've been lurking. Fasting is still going on, have another 10 days or so to go. We've settled back into a more manageable routine with Saara, even though her waking and sleeping times are a bit later than usual, but we'll work on that after Ramadan finishes.

I'm so excited about our meet-up

Will be back soon once I can get my brain back in gear

BTW I am sooo embarrased, I posted this on a completely wrong thread - I really do hope they delete it!

Hi all. Very tired here as H been up since 3.30. Yawn. Put her into her cot on Fri night. Friday night great, last night less so.

Before I forget again, I had a text from Gracie recently. RL is very busy just now but she hopes to be back on here soon and sends her love to everyone.

To add to the bf discussion, I was prepared to ff both times if it didn't work (fat chance with H!) but was really lucky that I had no supply issues either time and had lots of support in hospital with M and from MN with H . Whilst we're all aware of the benefits of bf, I'd argue that the benefits are lost if mum's too stressed to be a mummy. Being a ff baby myself didn't cause me any problems. I fed M till I went back to work at 5.5months and I'll probably be feeding H forever! She's 5 months today. Solids - we're coming to get you soon.

Louey Hope the accu really helps. I've never had it personally but have heard loads of good things about it. Well done for being on your own with the DTs. That must be exhausting. M will be 4 next month, but she thinks she's much older

Blue How's the hangover? Hope the chips n bru helped.

vjay hope our los weren't in sleep cahoots last night. We're going to my MILs for dinner today and she's never heard of low fat

Barbie so pleased to hear Dolly's sleeping. I'm assuming your mum's had a word

Iggy Glad to hear things are going well. The medela swing is great, especially if you can get them to drink the expressed milk!

MLS Hope your little pirate had a long lie in her own bed.

BQ welcome back but sorry for your loss. It's about time the small pants bench had some action.

Monkey champagne? MMMM. Hope it was the hangover free stuff.

Moon don't you go disappearing again.

Curly Love to Curlygirl

Sabs Hi. Hope you're doing ok.

Hi to Cupcaketheholidaymaker Lbm Mermaid jools Pfj QA Annie Buddha
and anyone else I've missed.

Thanks monkey - the champagne sounded lush

Hi All

Very quickly dashing on for Louey - I would've thought weekly to start with. When I first started with acupuncture she wanted to do it at least every week, which was actually impossible as I was only back in the UK for a few days. When I've had reflexology it's been sessions every week, then reducing it to every few weeks, so perhaps that might happen with long term acu too? I suppose it really depends on what your practitioner thinks is best for you...
Hope that makes sense - am a wee bit tipsy as just polished off a v nice bottle of champagne with dh that one of his customers bought him. Bet I'll read this in the morning and it won't make any sense

Good luck with your first session, and I hope it works for you! Acupuncture literally got me through my pregnancy with ds, it was the only thing that made the slightest difference to the sickness - I am a huge fan!

Will catch up more when the words aren't wobbly... Gosh, I really am a lightweight

Quick question for those of you who have done acupuncture - how often should you go? I'm going for my first session tomorrow and I'm not sure if it should be weekly or less often than that?

Hello - just a quickie to say I've been lurking but not had time to post. Have been looking after DTs on my own for most of the past 2 days and its impossible to get on the computer with them around!

bq welcome back! Sorry for your loss - feel free to vent on here. Come and join us on the small pant bench and hopefully we all will be graduating very soon.

4ever thanks for barbie update.

blue what time did you get home in the end

vjay well done on the no weight gain. I bet your clothes are feeling looser with all that cycling. Sorry about the labyrinthitis - its not nice is it. Must be a weird bug going around at the moment. I am feeling much better but I had the dizziness/sick feeling on and off for about 3 weeks before I went to the Drs. Hope yours clears up soon.

neeko well done on the weight loss! How old is M? The story about her crushing the strawberries did make me laugh - at least it was with something that comes out.

mls take it easy please!

cupcake glad you went on holiday in the end and I hope you are having a lovely time

Waves to lbm, moon, iggy and monkey (I will try and remember to post about CM stuff when I get a chance but robitussin makes CM more watery)

Right - have got to go and construct a chair we bought for Isaac at Ikea this morning - on the advice of the occupational therapist. It spins around - he will love it

Morning all! Just got a tx from our Barbie

'Could you please update thread to say im here safe, dolly is doing great, sleeping so well! I miss you all but am so busy, will try to update monday. Love to all x'

Just wanna add to the whole bf chat that i felt so much better reading that both lbm and blue also only got 2oz max when expressing, as i really felt like a 'failure' too..

I was determined id bf, in hospital the mw made me feel crap when S wouldnt latch on the day after she was born, even tho she did at 1hr old, so i did the cup for the first week then went to the bottle, but expressed every day for 4 weeks just so shed get her daily oz or 2 of goodness! In the end, like the others said, the horrible daily ritual and faff of pumping got me down and id much rather of been cuddling her instead!

I figured i tried my best and felt SO relieved when i made the decision to stop! Wierdly about 2 or 3 wks later during a night bottle she turned her head and went for my boob and iv combined ever since! I do think i just didnt produce enough to begin with but now they gush! Its funny how it all turned around, i say just roll with it, we are all different, our babys are all different, i think birth weights may come into it, then again it could be irrelevent! In pregnancy i was very practical, told myself id try, prepared it may not happen so got bottles, steriliser, formula and pump in case, but still felt shit about it that first couple weeks..

A long old waffle to basically say we are all different and i think too much emphasis is put on it. So long as babys fed, happy and gaining weight, our job is done.

Just wanna add to the whole bf chat that i felt so much better reading that both lbm and blue also only got 2oz max when expressing, as i really felt like a 'failure' too..

I was determined id bf, in hospital the mw made me feel crap when S wouldnt latch on the day after she was born, even tho she did at 1hr old, so i did the cup for the first week then went to the bottle, but expressed every day for 4 weeks just so shed get her daily oz or 2 of goodness! In the end, like the others said, the horrible daily ritual and faff of pumping got me down and id much rather of been cuddling her instead!

I figured i tried my best and felt SO relieved when i made the decision to stop! Wierdly about 2 or 3 wks later during a night bottle she turned her head and went for my boob and iv combined ever since! I do think i just didnt produce enough to begin with but now they gush! Its funny how it all turned around, i say just roll with it, we are all different, our babys are all different, i think birth weights may come into it, then again it could be irrelevent! In pregnancy i was very practical, told myself id try, prepared it may not happen so got bottles, steriliser, formula and pump in case, but still felt shit about it that first couple weeks..

A long old waffle to basically say we are all different and i think too much emphasis is put on it. So long as babys fed, happy and gaining weight, our job is done.

MLS I so hear you on the bfding - been there twice. BabyJ is only on the 2nd percentile and has just hit 10lb's but this time the doctors and hv's are just more chilled about it. As I "failed" ( my definition) with dd1, I was so determined to make it work with ds - I was just like you. But "failed" again - however dd2 has made it all right by managing to feed her.

I feel your pain and hear your determination - that was me too as like you I felt that I had to be able to do this as it's the most natural thing in the world. BTW, this time, I went to see everyone including bfding counsellors, as I felt that I should have seen them with DS and they would have the magic key. They really didn't and the advice they gave was rubbish!
With babyJ, I said I would try for 4 weeks and review then. And now here we are at 14 weeks or so...

bakingqueen Lovely to see you back, sorry for your loss. And you are right, we are so blessed. Baby J has been cooing and gooing at me today - it's just lovely and will happen for all the small panters too.

blue enjoy the party - lol at you getting excited about a clothes party but any excuse to get out is good in my eyes!

cupcake enjoy the childcare ( il's!)

Hello to everyone else - got to go, tea to dish out

ola!

Ben's napping so we'll see how far I get!

Iggy - expressing/bottles/arrrgh! Its all so individual and down to baby keeness and Mummy can or canny be botherdness. I fell into latter as Ben took a bottle of EBM from week 3 but I couldn't be bothere with faff of expressing to get 2oz when he could be on me (like your explanation LBM)as he always had to be passed to me anyway. Stopped doing it then cue two months later when he REFUSED to take any sort of bottle..

Neeko's H has refused any sort of bottle from week 3 but other babies are happy to go between them..

It's down to how easy you can express and how willing your DD is to take the teat. I would recommend Tommee Tippee as they are the softest teats and the nicest bottles to hold. Good luck!

Neeko - your DD1 ishilareous but in a stern naughty girl way . Loving image of H banding her legs. She has lovely chunky legs so those srawberries never stood a chance! So delighted you got 8.5 hours sleep too - way to go H. On breast milk alone too!! Unless you've bene sneakily feeding her tattie scones? .

Vjay - not gained any weight is a good result! Soooo, what are your plans for Ajay's birthday? Oh and sorry you have larithingymaboab..

Welcome back BQ!

cupcake - hope your enjoying your holiday en famille

4ever - so remember the and you had to put up with all those pg ladies last year...What a difference a year makes, you have you gorgeous biscuit . It's one of the cruelest things post-mc, the silent sadness we have dealing with pg women and watching their bumps grow . But then I've been on the other side too whilst pg with Ben, playgroup friend who burst into tears last Sept. after hearing my due date as she was due then and had had a MMC at 11 weeks (she is now 36 weeks pg . We don't know all the women who looked at our bumps with sadness as they were due the same time as us...

On a brighter note, I've been inspired by your casts of S's feet and have bought the plaster of paris kit from Mothercare (£45) to do a mould of Ben's feet as they are so pudgy and gorgeous! Wish me luck it may get messy .

eek! Ben has woken, got to go.

p.s. off out gonight, friend holding a children's clothes party - white wine is in the fridge and I will be home for 1am, no I will

Mls yep i had quite serious post natal odema (sp?) To add to long list of ailments! Severe swelling in legs, feet, hands and face! My ring was always a wee bit small, dh and i got a set we brought there and then, over the years it was a bit tight and all the pregnancys took their toll! Iv lost lots of weight now, just a bit of a tum which is slowly goin down but relented to resize ring as the eternity dh got for my birthday fits lovely so wanted them to match.. Hope your resting now, cant believe Josie walked out of bb, felt really sorry for her, sad for chantelle too..

Welcome back Bq! So lovely to have you back, sorry to hear about the bereavement.. You are surely due some good news soon so ill be hoping your stay on the small pant bench is short lived and you can warm up the medium bench ready for the imminent much overdue crop of new bfps!