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First visit to fertility centre - what can I expect & should my partner be there too?

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lozster · 25/07/2010 12:34

I've just got an appointment for early Sept to attend a fertility clinic. I know that I am not ovulating from tests that my GP did (hence the referral) and my partner has already done a semen test (result to GP in next couple of days) pending the appointment.

Will the clinic be expecting me to arrive with my partner? I kind of assumed that they would however now I'm wondering if they will expect to see just me. He is planning to come along but the hospital is miles away and it will involve both of us taking most of the day off work. I'm thinking that if I'm in for a long haul here of multiple appointments should I 'save' his time for when I might need him more? The GP seemed to think that I could just be prescribed clomid and was going to do it himself until he found that the rules for my practice had recently changed and I would need a referral. Has anyone had a similar experience and know if the fertility clinic are likely to just prescribe Clomid straight off (assuming semen sample ok) or whether they are likely to do further tests, where I might need someone with me, to find out exactly why I'm not ovulating. There is no obvious reason why I'm not - no health issues, normal periods etc.

Thanks for any answers!

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ell695 · 03/02/2014 11:19

Sorry I know its been a long time since anyone has posted on here. I am going for my first appointment today and taking my husband. I am 28, have PCOS, haven't had a period for over 10 years. I wondered whether anyone had any similar experiences or had any advice or tips they could share with me, or stories of success. I am a little nervous, and also unsure that it will ever happen for us!

lozster · 16/09/2010 21:28

CosmicClara - re your husband's sample, I'd recommend calling the FC and asking for their procedure. WE had a muddle on this as my GP gave me the form and pot (!) for him and said we could just drop it off at the FC but you actually had to make a booking to drop off as a nurse needed it receive it. This took longer than an FC appointment becoming available!

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lozster · 16/09/2010 21:24

hi jerzygurl - OP here! There seems to be massive variation between clinics in everything from how the booking system works to the tests proposed and the monitoring applied. I'm 38 and IVF was suggested by the clinic if 5 rounds of Clomid don't do the trick (having done some research I don't think it will as I'm not PCOS). My 1st appointment confirmed that we both met the criteria for IVF but I was surprised too at how rapidly it was suggested. I've had a bit of a set back this week though as I can't get a booking for a HSG (you can't book in advance of your period) which I need before the Clomid can start - maybe not that much of a blow if what I've read is true but it feels a bit of a set back all the same - there's no guarantee for next month either. If it carries on I won;t have time to take the 5 rounds of Clomid before my next appointment!

btw... something I've been mulling over since my appointment .... my partner and me both heard the registrar say that IVF success rate is 70%. This, in retrospect seems crazily high? Did we both mis-hear 17%??

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jerzygurl · 16/09/2010 16:45

Joining in here..

had blood tests done..bloodclotting profile and 2-21 day tests...awaiting another test that they keep losing..urgh

weve been referred to FC but are still awaiting confirmation letter after couple weeks is that normal? appoinments Oct 9th.

im 41 and all my doctor said was they would need another sample of hubbys..and eggs extracted from me..which may i add has scared me to death ..surely not ivf already?

minibmw2010 · 16/09/2010 16:17

My DH had his initial SA done at his own request, via our GP. He mentioned to the GP that I was having initial investigations with another Dr at our surgery and the GP immediately gave him the form and told him where to take it, etc. He then had a second one done with the Fertility Clinic. I'd suggest your DH go to his GP and ask. It could save you time (even if the FC suggest another one).

We had all our other tests, Chlamydia, etc. done at our first consultant appointment. I was quite surprised I tell you, but easy enough to get most of them out fo the way that day (bar the HSG), though I am starting to think we have just had a good hospital/consultant helping us on our way.

CosmicClara · 13/09/2010 16:35

I have first appt this week too and I'm really concerned because my GP has only sent me for Day 21 test and when I asked about DH having SA she said the hospital would deal with it. That was 4 months ago so now I'm thinking he should have just gone to his own GP and requested one??? I'm 37 a(nd a half) and every month counts, as you all know.

I just feel that we've wasted lots of time and will only end up having to wait again now.

I keep trying to find information about appointments and what to expect but it seems every area/hospital is different.

I'm also worried that we might not even be eligible for IVF as DH already has children from previous marriage. Sad

Good Luck MsChutney

MsChutney · 13/09/2010 16:21

HI - just thought I'd give an update!

Our first appointment was very relaxed and the nurse there is lovely, she put us both at ease and went through medical history with us both. She was great and explained in detail our results from the GP and talked us through the next steps. I'm too old for NHS IVF so it's something we need to decide if we are going to go through if and when it gets to that stage.

I had an internal scan there and then and then went back a week later for another.

I've been back for another lot of bloods and the results from those are due this week.

I have a feeling that I'm going to be "Clomid"ed this week as it seemed as if my follicles weren't as big as she expected them to be at the 2nd scan.

I've got the paperwork ready for my HSG (or is it HGS?) and another lot of bloods. I'm to phone for an appointment for the scan and bloods on day one of my next cycle.

The funny thing is it should have been Friday (10th) or at the latest Sunday (12th). I've had some usual symptoms: stomach ache, sore boobs but nothing yet! I shall be keeping my fingers crossed for the next few days but considering I've not got a positive yet it would be hilarious if I did now.

Anyway if you've not been for an appointment yet really don't worry as from my experience it isn't anywhere near as bad as I had expected!

IfAtFirstUDontSucceed · 05/09/2010 13:43

Thanks guys, that makes me feel alot better knowing that they may have requested the test to be done again anyway!

How bizzare is that that so many of us have appointments on the same day! Grin

lozster · 05/09/2010 13:37

My chlamydia test is a blood test but that may be because blood is being taken anyway.

I don't think the absence of these tests will be a deal breaker with regards to the fertility clinic - you just need them done at some point.

So sorry about your miscarriage - that must have been such a blow. Good luck for Thursday.

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Saladbomb · 05/09/2010 13:36

Hi IfAtFirst I think it would have been good for her to do it to put your mind at rest BUT the FC clinic may well have done it again anyway. I had already had Day3 and 21's done by the GP and the clinic have had me do them all again plus chlamydia and rubella (even tho I told them I had rubella vaccination as a teen) They said they wanted the blood sample to be available within the hospital not just the results. IDK why tho.

So thats is at least 4 people on MN who have FC appointments on the 9th that I know of and I am pretty sure there was a 5th mentioned on another thread. How very very synchronicitous. Perhaps I should start a support thread for that specific date and see if anyone else is. :o

IfAtFirstUDontSucceed · 05/09/2010 13:27

I've been reading this thread with interest.
DH & I were referred to a fertility specialist in Feb after 3 years TTC
I actually got PG in the same month but lost it at 6.5 week.
The specialist had arranged for me to have chlamydia test & rubella blood test (had already had 21 day bloods and DH had a semen test).
Because of the pg & MC everything was put on hold, but after 6 further months TTC I have arranged an appt on Thursday to see the specialist again.

Unless he fobs us off (we were told to go back next March originally if no joy) I'm guessing that the tests will be back on the cards.
What really makes me angry, and the more I think about the angrier I get is that I had a smear a couple of weeks ago and I aked when I booked it if I could have the chlamydia test at the same time in preparation for Thursday. When I turned up, the nurse who I seen wouldnt do it Angry twittering on about if I had chlamidia I would know about it by now, but in the same breath went on about how it was a silent condition Confused

Is the chlamydia test compulsary?
Was I right to ask the nurse to do it at the same time as the smear, and was she stupidly wrong for refusing??? Angry Angry

Saladbomb · 05/09/2010 13:17

Yes, it seems to vary a lot but then if you think about it everyones situation is individual and there are so many different factors. Plus it depends on how far down the road your GP has taken you with tests etc. We were referred straight away due to my age but In a way my first appointment was a bit of a waste of time as we hadn't had my DHs SA results back yet (actually the GP had but they hadnt sent them through to the FC clinic, great!) and also our consultant was not available so we saw the registrar instead. No disrespect to him but the nurse seems more switched on than he did! So I also think individual service providers handle things differently. I hope we see the actual consultant this time!

Plus, our problems seem to be with DHs slightly low count rather than me as we know I am ovulating, therefore I think we would be offered IUI in between clomid and IVF. Was that not mentioned as an option for you? Will check out your other thread, there is also a Clomid support thread out there which might be good for you to have a gander at (might see you there shortly!)

lozster · 05/09/2010 12:48

I'm 38 too Saladbomb hence I think, the fairly speedy route I've had from GP to clinic to Clomid to (it would seem) and IVF cycle if the Clomid doesn't work. I think the 'strategy' is to only do exploratory work to determine if treatment will work or not rather than do exploratory work to determine the actual cause of the problem. The clinic I went to publishes criteria for IVF treatment as well as success rate (70% which I was surprised by - it seems very high) I think health factors such as BMI are used to determine suitability (eligibility?) for IVF and the cut off age (I may have this wrong) was 43. There's obviously other stuff about your partner's sperm sample too. Essentially we were told that we meet the criteria if the Clomid doesn't work.

Yes the moniotring of the Chlomid is preying on my mind - I started another thread!

Hope the second appointment goes ok - it's odd the different routes that are recommended isn't it?

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Saladbomb · 05/09/2010 12:36

And do you mind me asking how old you are? I am 38 so a bit worried I am beyond eligible (or will be soon)

Saladbomb · 05/09/2010 12:34

Glad it went OK lozster I am surprised at the lack of monitoring during clomid as I was under the impression (from the NHS guidebook) that this is required. I think you should query that to be honest.

Do they know why you aren't ovulating? And have you considered acupuncture? Its might be possible to get you ovulating again if it a hormonal imbalance that is stopping it and might also help if you have any side effects from the Clomid.

Loads of luck with it, keep us posted. I have 2nd appointment next week and will be SO much more prepared thanks mostly to MNers.

lozster · 05/09/2010 12:23

ok - returning here for an update. Good job I took advice here and took partner as he was definitely needed! Very relaxed at clinic - histories taken from both of us taking half an hour plus. Confirmation that we would both be suitable for IVF which was a bit startling as it seems so early in terms of me seeking help but perhaps not in terms of my age.

Course of action is to to have some further blood tests (chlamydia, rubella, HBs Ag)and the dye test (hysterosalpingogram). If the dye test is ok I've been given a prescription 50mg chlomid for 5 cycles that I can get immediately. I have an appointment for March in case the chlomid doesn't work. The registrar said that if it doesn't we should try IVF not more chlomid but let's see. There will be no monitoring of ovulation whilst taking chlomid which I am a tad suprised/worried about .... but I'll start another thread about that one....

thanks all and hope this helps anyone else who is either waiting or thinking about asking for a referral.

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Keziahhopes · 28/07/2010 22:31

Hi - lozster you should not be sent away for not having all the tests, but why don't you go to your health centre and ask the receptionist for a nurse appointment for a smear and chlymdia test - you should easily get that done in August and don't need a gp to refer you - you just make an appointment I would think, or you could see your gp first if you wish.

Boba 12 weeks is a longish time, but it doesn't matter as long as it is done before you go back in January - and although a long wait, I didn't get HSG test ordered till my 2nd appointment and it seems like you have all tests, plus urine, that I have had over 8 months! I felt when having tests that at least there was a reason for delay and things were happening at last. But then it has been 6yrs of ttc~1 and 2yrs waiting for treatment!!! Feels like it might actually happen sometime soon.

lozster · 28/07/2010 22:13

wanting I was referred immediately after basic blood tests showed no ovulation had occurred. I think not having any children and my age may have driven this decision. The referral was a computer code to self book so I logged on everyday for 4 weeks and I think I only saw available appointments 3 times - once was too soon before partner's semen test, next was when I'm on holiday then finally one appointment came up for the start of Sept.

I'm concerned that my Gp didn't do all the tests mentioned here eg. chylmidia and that I'll be sent back again. I'm also a bit worried about the gap between your appointments boba - that seems like a long time + HSG 12 weeks too.... I'm 38 and concerned that time isn't on my side - the second GP I saw said as much Heck - I was digging in for a long haul but I'm now fretting.

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boba82 · 28/07/2010 20:39

Had good apptmt today. Had internal check and bloods done. Have booked me for HSG and ultrasound and they will monitor my hormones over 10 weeks via urine samples. THe usual gap between now and next apptmt would be 4 months but due to our holiday in 8 weeks ours will be 5 months which is xmas time so I go back 7th Jan.

Feels like an age away but this is mostly due to this urine malarky with me. HSG waitlist is currently 12 weeks at Edinburgh Royal Infirmary.

DH given all clear due to new research on SA, he is 'normal' afterall.

Hope this is of some use to anyone waiting.

Keziahhopes · 28/07/2010 18:30

Starlet - would definitely get your FSH and LH repeated while you wait and get a 2nd SA for your dH, plus an up to date smear and chlymdia done at the same time - and any other tests you can get your gp to do! Starlet, we go tomorrow for our 3rd apt with NHS fertility dr's. Seen different dr each time, but under one consultant who I have seen once. Hopefully tomorrow they decide on what treatment we need, as long as my HSG and scan results were ok.

Boba - our wait was about the same time as yours. Hope it has gone well, your apt. Wonder if you come out with more tests - that is what happened to me the first time.

MsChutney - yes according to NICE gp's not meant to give out clomid as it is meant to be monitored at a hospital and also if there other problems not found out it is not going to work. Might be worth asking gp to order a 2nd SA for dh, as hospital will ask for that when you go and it will save time when you go. I have learnt this the hard way!!

MsChutney · 28/07/2010 10:52

I'm so glad I found this thread. We've just been referred so we're waiting for our first appointment and stupidly I didn't think to ask the Doc what would happen and now I'm fretting!

Doc has said we should hear within four weeks so I'm hoping that the appointment isn't too long a wait. She also said that they weren't able to prescribe Clomid at the Docs any more so I have to wait for that. Bit of a shame really as I wanted to get started to feel as if something was happening.

I've had blood tests (5 I think it was) and a smear and all ok. MrC has had his sperm results and all ok as well although one part of the test was slightly low. Again I wish I'd asked more questions!

So now it's just a question of waiting!

Starlet22 · 28/07/2010 08:39

Thanks for the information, Keziah. How are things? X

Keziahhopes · 27/07/2010 16:12

Starlet - my Gp ordered the tests, and they can do so easily. However, I didn't have the HIV and Hep blood tests till we knew we needed IVF as no need for them till get to that stage:

  • rubella antibody test
  • HIV, Hep(all of them), FBC, Thyroid check, Prolactin blood test (prolactin if high may be reason not ovulating so better to test that
  • Smear test and chlymdia test - can be done at same time
  • LH and FSH tests - on day 3 of cycle and 7 days post ovulation (known as 21 day test assuming a 28 day cycle!!)

Then the dr at fertility clinic ordered me the Trans Vaginal scan the first time I went, a 2nd set of bloods for me as my progesterone low and a 2nd SA for dh.

On 2nd visit to fertility clinic they ordered 3rd SA as dh's results not good (poor morphology) and hormone profile for him and a 3rd set of bllods for me.

We have been told due to dH's results we will need IVF or similar, so clomid is out of the question as first line treatment.

Wanting - I am 34, been ttc for at least 2yrs and Gp referred me after initial tests and because of the length of time ttc. Took 12wks to see dr at clinic and then 3mths between first and 2nd visit adn 8weeks between 2nd and 3rd visit. Go on Thursday and hope to find out out treatment options then and queue for those. Need certain time between apt's as some tests depend on cycle length etc.

If any abnormalities in dh's SA we learnt that a man renews his sperm every 3mths throughtout his life, so testing 3mths after first test may provide better/worse results (worst for us.)

Sorry, I have waffled.

boba82 · 27/07/2010 08:58

Thanks ladies

Saladbomb I'm 28 and my GP referred me straight away as I'm not ovulating every month. We have been TTC for over a year now. GP did initial blood tests, smear and chlamydia test on me & 2 SA on DH. Letter came through approx 2 weeks after referral and approx 12 week wait for appointment at clinic.

Saladbomb · 26/07/2010 22:30

stegasaurus I'm no expert but the 'dye test' could well be HSG, this is where they fill your womb with 'dye' and take an x-ray, its actually just saline solution and is clear (which i find slightly disappointing ) They may have put you straight on clomid to get you ovulating if you haven't had a period for ages. I would ask at your next appointment if you are worried.

Boba82 think they aim for 8 weeks between first and 2nd, thats when I've got mine, might be slightly different between FC's tho?

Wanting i think it depends on circumstances. How old you are, how long you have been trying and if you already have kids. I am 38 and been trying for 3 years and never been pregnant so got referral straight away although it did take a while for an appointment to come thru.

I know 30+ you need to have been trying for a year and 35+ for 6 months, no idea if -30 tho.