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Any Noel Streatfeild fans here?

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JFDIYOLO · 06/10/2023 14:59

I love her books about children on stage, at Madame Fidolia's Academy - have done since I was very young and Mum first handed me Ballet Shoes and The Painted Garden.

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Almahart · 06/10/2023 19:01

I was also fascinated as a 1970s dungarees wearing child by what they wore, they seemed to be always having to let out an old fawn frock to go to a birthday party.

Almahart · 06/10/2023 18:59

I adored Noel Streatfield and still remember how I felt 40 years ago when I read in The Vicarage Family that John had died. @pollyhemlock I remember that bread and butter story too and that some dangerous person had wanted them to wear purple, green and white to some event or other and of course they weren't allowed to. @MargaretThursday I didn't know she had written further autobiographies, I'll definitely look for those.

ShermansSherberts · 06/10/2023 18:56

I love them. A Vicarage Family , Theatre Shoes, The Growing Summer, Caldicott Place are amongst my favourite.

Enjoyed Ballet Shoes a lot, I think my favourite ballet books as a child were the Drina series and Ballet Twins by Jean Estoril, and also the Sadler's Wells series.

CurlewKate · 06/10/2023 18:53

Me!!!!

RaeHitsEbSire · 06/10/2023 18:52

Have you read The Wicharts, OP - the unsuccessful adult novel which was recycled to become Ballet Shoes? It's a really interesting read from the Ballet Shoes perspective.

pollyhemlock · 06/10/2023 18:49

@MargaretThursday I don’t think her father was exactly weak, just very very holy. The awful bit in Vicarage Family where he reluctantly allows his daughters to go to a birthday party in Lent, but they’re not allowed to wear party dresses or eat anything except plain bread and butter!

MargaretThursday · 06/10/2023 17:17

Have you read her autobiographies?
The first one A Vicarage Family gives a lot of insight into how she wrote characters, the later ones are quite sad because she's desperate for the approval of her mother, but knows she'll never really get it.
Interestingly the original illustrations for Ballet Shoes were done by her sister (Ruth Gervis-"Isabel" in the autobiographies), not planned by them, but the publisher suggested it, not knowing they were sisters.

The sulky middle child, typical of her stories, was really her. The weak father figure was really her dad. I don't think he was really weak, just weak with his family, and she felt didn't stick up for her when he'd have liked to. He became a bishop, but died relatively young, running for a train if I remember rightly.
She did have a love, an older cousin, "John", who died in WWI. I don't know whether it would have gone further if he hadn't died.

JFDIYOLO · 06/10/2023 16:54

I love how her books begin in the 20s with the Fossils as little girls then they reappear after the war as young women with history, who the new young girls can look up to.

And how the area had been bombed and the academy was battered but still standing.

Noel wrote until the 1970s and so many of her books were set contemporarily so you get a sense of time passing.

One thing I only learned ages later was that she was gay - and on re reading the books it's striking how often they feature strong mothers and weak father figures - either completely absent like GUM, physical or mental illness, or general wet blanketness - and another strong female companion. An old nurse, a servant, a friend - it was so often two women running a home. And then the two Doctors who came to board at the Fossils.

I also loved how like E Nesbitt her children were argumentative, sulky, sad, scared, embarrassed, excited, joyful. I felt she understood adolescent girl life.

Here she is - trying to find whk the artist was.

Any Noel Streatfeild fans here?
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MargaretThursday · 06/10/2023 16:27

Yes! Could you guess?

Did you read Curtain Up too? Another one which the Fossils appear albeit as side characters.

Greeneyegirl · 06/10/2023 15:10

Yes me 😀 my eight month old was nearly called Posy as I adored Post Fossil in Ballet Shoes. I think my favourite was White Boots though

PyramusandThisbe · 06/10/2023 15:08

I've not read all of them, or anywhere near, but The Circus is Coming (reissued, I think, as Circus Shoes to capitalise on the success of Ballet Shoes) is an excellent novel, though quite a realist one for a children's novel of the period. The two main characters run away to find an uncle who works in a circus when they're facing being sent to separate children's home, and they're insufferable cosseted snobs at first, but the arc is just that they learn to be normal, and have a fairly low-key future with the circus as a low-grade acrobat, and a rider. They don't have enormous, earth-shattering talents, and their uncle doesn't come to love them, just tolerates them and is prepared to house them until they can earn their keep.

Lilifer · 06/10/2023 15:02

Yep me! Read pretty much all her books as a teenager, totally loved them!

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