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TarquinGyrfalcon · 17/11/2018 16:09

Calling all Antonia Forest Fans.

Why do you love AF books? And what/who is your favourite books/scene/character?

I think for me it is the fact the characters are quite self aware or their weaknesses are so well written by AF that I can identify with so many of their failings and feelings.

I've just reread The Marlows and the Traitor and Peter's shame at the boat thing resonates with me. The fact that he can barely bring himself to think about it but he can't out it out of his mind.

My favourite character changes all the time - I have a soft spot for Rowan - I would have loved to see what happened to her when Giles returned to claim Trennels in later years.

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StableGenius · 06/12/2018 10:06

Damn it, saw this thread title and thought it was going to be about a new reprint of all her books Sad.

OK

The Kingscote books were the first boarding school books I read that actually rang true. The characters are fully rounded with strengths and - sometimes pretty huge - weaknesses and yet I was captivated by all of them, even the ones I disliked.

I am obsessed with books about big families, and the Marlow dynamics are among the most fascinating of any I have read.

The Christmas play at Wade Minster is one of the most festive things ever written, along with the Christmas carols at the manor house in The Dark Is Rising. I have to reread it every December Blush.

I was always Team Nicola, I think because she was a singer, like me (but also because hers is the point of view in the Kingscote books). Love Rowan as well, and I longed for a big brother like Peter (or a boyfriend like Patrick Wink).

Conventicle · 06/12/2018 09:57

Well, their general blonde and blue-eyedness is mentioned right at the very beginning of Autumn Term, which was the first one I read, so no. I took it for granted! Though I will say that I don;t have a very strong sense of what any of them look like, apart from being blonde and blue-eyed, basically 'nice-looking' according to Mrs Merrick, and apparently tending to thinness.

I think I struggle with who's straight-haired and who is curly, and who wears their hair short and who long which I think we're only told once, in that same passage. I think Ann is one of the curly ones, isn' she there's the bit in End of Term where she's combing her hair with difficulty after she washes it, and Nicola thinks she should wear it loose to play Mary in the Minster.

Though I've always found it slightly odd that at the beginning of Run Away Home (I think) Nicola registers Giles across a station platform and before she recognises him as her brother, thinks that he's 'fairly gorgeous'.

Bloodybridget · 06/12/2018 04:00

Does anyone else struggle with accepting that all the Marlow children are fair-haired? (In fact, I can't remember if Peter's hair colour is ever mentioned, but all the girls are described as blonde.) Giles and Ginty, OK, but surely Karen and Rowan have dark hair, and in my head Nicola is definitely dark too, so Lawrie must be. Sorry, AF, you got it wrong!

Witchend · 04/12/2018 14:05

I felt it was more unfair that Lawrie basically whinges her way into getting the Idiot Boy without paying for it.
It's fair enough doing swapsies for cigarette cards, but Mrs M should have put a foot down and told Lawrie that was too much and she would have to pay them back the money.

NotCitrus · 04/12/2018 07:56

I remember that one too! The lurching fortunes of the Marlows are the only real betrayal that AF only ever planned one book at a time, I think, but coming up with in-world explanations is more fun.

RustyBear · 03/12/2018 23:32

Badger Books currently have End of Term in stock, as well as the Sally Hayward continuation.
www.badgerbooks.co.uk

TarquinGyrfalcon · 03/12/2018 23:14

I remember that debate!
To be fair PM does seem to have a very laidback and non planned relationship with money.

I do think it’s unfair that Peter and Lawrie have to buy the Idiot Boy whole Ginty just gets Catkin

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Conventicle · 03/12/2018 21:48

Was anyone on here around on Trennels for the great ‘Was Pam Marlow unreasonable and unfair to liquidate the family tiara and spend the proceeds on a well-bred pony for one child and an exquisite hunter for herself?’ debate? Got very heated, that one. Grin

hagsrus0 · 27/11/2018 23:55

Try Archive of Our Own, Trennels

bookworm14 · 27/11/2018 21:03

I read a very good short fanfic about Miranda and Jan Scott meeting again as adults, but I can’t remember where I found it or what it’s called.

TarquinGyrfalcon · 27/11/2018 20:43

I love some of the fanfic(although I wasn't keen on Spring Term) - there is a great crossover piece where Rowan Marlow and Roger Walker (Swallows and Amazons) end up together

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BertrandRussell · 27/11/2018 17:35

Lucy Mangan called her "Jane Austen for children".

There is fanfic..........

bookworm14 · 27/11/2018 17:31

Huge Forest fan here! She is an unrecognised genius. I love her because her characters are real, complex, recognisable people. Lois Sanger and Tim in particular are both fascinating.

TarquinGyrfalcon · 22/11/2018 21:05

I have a set of old copies - DH tracked them down for me as a Christmas present years ago. I've also doubled up and got some of the reprints that GGBP have reissued. They currently have End of Term and Peter's Room available.

I did contact GGBP and ask if there was any chance of them being issues as ebooks but sadly the answer was no,

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CloudsAway · 22/11/2018 20:58

I've bought copies of all of them through Girls Gone By Publishers as they were re-released, apart from the school stories that were available second-hand (in very battered and falling-apart copies!) I think even the GGBP editions are hard to get hold of now though, second hand, but I think they re-release them again at times.

Pinkfizzy · 22/11/2018 20:56

Hi AF fans

Do you all own much loved old copies or are any back in print? Last time I looked, I found Autumn Term, but didn't read it, knowing how frustrating it would be to read, enjoy then...No more.
I'd enjoy them even more in kindle or similar!

ATwinThing · 22/11/2018 20:49

I'm currently rereading all the home books as I know them much less than school ones. One I was excited to realise I'd never read at all (Run Away Home). I find them harder to get into than the school books but very rewarding once I do. Now I have twins of my own I'm finding the Nicola/Laurie relationship particularly interesting.

SureIusedtobetaller · 22/11/2018 20:39

Love these books.
My favourite characters are Rowan, Nicola and I do like Patrick.
Never liked the “home” ones as much as school but maybe I need to read them again.
Don’t understand why they haven’t been reprinted.

TarquinGyrfalcon · 22/11/2018 20:33

I'm rereading FL - I'd forgotten how beauty of the writing around Jon's death
The foreshadowing when Patrick says something along the lines of 'not to night, he'll be dead to the world' and then the writing when Peter tells Nicola what has happened.

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hagsrus0 · 22/11/2018 20:31

I was given Autumn Term when I was about twelve, and have been happily re-reading the books for over sixty years.

ScreamingValLongstreet · 18/11/2018 16:42

I really like the invented language in Thuggery. It's actually really clever when you look at it. It reminds me of A Clockwork Orange.

TarquinGyrfalcon · 18/11/2018 16:39

I know lots of people dislike it but I have a sneaking fondness for The Thuggery Affair. Mainly because I do love the story line - also it resolved the how on earth is Regina back that confounded me when I read The Attic Term.

I need to reread The Thursday Kidnapping as I haven't included that in my annual reread for a few years.

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BedHair · 18/11/2018 15:35

AF is a genius. I know she only ended up writing children's books by accident having decided it would be easier to be published as a children's author, and she could switch to adult books once she'd a foot in the door but even though I read them far too young to fully appreciate them, I still think their moral and cultural sophistication, and the acuity of their characterisation more than stands up to most decent writing for adults. Apart from anything else, I owe so many bits of knowledge to her the poetry that insufferable gold-eyed-- Patrick recites on the ride back from Wade Minster, the rules of cricket (I'm not from the UK), the plays of Shakespeare, the Brontes' imaginary worlds, hunting, falconry, the navy, Anglicanism, pre-Vatican II English Catholicism etc etc.

I don't think I can choose a favourite (other than not The Thuggery Affair) but I love set pieces like Nicolas playing Juliet and Viola, Patrick and Nicola riding over to Wade Minster at half-term, Patrick weeping at the classical concert and discussing cheating at exams with his mother and Claudie afterwards, the various school plays, Nicola and Lawrie at that local talent festival, Miranda's Dress, the diving competition at the regatta, Nicola cutting her hand on the four-leaved clover in its locket, and the various Christmases.

NotCitrus · 18/11/2018 15:00

I love Forest even though there are such excruciating scenes of embarrassment - it took me 20 years to re-read the Guide Court of Honour scene. My favourites would be Attic and Cricket Term, Peters Room and the Thuggery Affair. Jukie strikes me as very like Patrick only from a poor background.

TarquinGyrfalcon · 18/11/2018 14:49

I think Marie is just one of those over anxious, lumpen people (like me) who aren't good socially. She can become over officious at times but I think the key difference between Marie and Lois is she doesn't have the ability to charm.

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