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Too much of harry potter, percy jackson, Artemis fowl making DS aggresive

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mom17 · 12/08/2016 11:24

DS 10, is really crazy about above mentioned books along with other books which I aminly found it to be aggressive. I really need to try hard to make him read classicals( has read few but doesn't interest him much). He really becomes crazy till the time he finishes the books, nothing matters to him then ( exams, assessment, any other routine studies). If I say something in line that I will discontinue library membership or will not order those kind of books, he really gets so angry and starts screaming and talks badly like "lets see who will study then?". If I don't order those kind, he brings it from school library. I have read Harry potter/percy jackson little to understand what does he like there and I really feel it to be crappy/useless and feel that up to certain extent it is ok to read these to keep up with peer group but reading it again and again and ignoring other genre is not appropriate.
I feel it is general problem with boys, so would like to know how other parents have dealt with it or any suggestion ?

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FuckFaceMagee · 14/08/2016 15:34

If my 10yo wanted to read books id be happy.

Like someone else said, you're making him aggressive. Not the books.

How the hell could Harry Potter make anyone aggressive?

coolaschmoola · 14/08/2016 15:27

I'm an English teacher... I LOVE Harry Potter.

The most important thing about reading is that he does it. He has a love of reading and you are running the risk of destroying that by pushing him to read books YOU haven't read yourself! If you want to steer his reading then you really ought to at least have an understanding of what you are steering him towards.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 14/08/2016 15:25

Those are all quite action packed (in an accessible way) too, which probably makes the classics seem harder work in comparison.

I did read a bigger mix at that age because those series were only just being written, but it's the summer holidays, leave him to it for a bit! I used to re-read things like Animal Ark a lot which are much less grown up.

karalime · 14/08/2016 15:17

Even as an adult there is nothing more tiresome than 'you really need to read X, why aren't you reading X?!'

I was a quiet bookish 10yo girl and I loved Harry Potter and Artemis Fowl. Enjoy it, treasure it, because I do not think I will ever get as enthusiastic about anything as I did when I was 10.

DoctorDonnaNoble · 14/08/2016 15:10

Young ones definitely aimed at children.
I suggested the abridged Holmes as the OP seems concerned about violence.

JemimaMuddledUp · 14/08/2016 14:25

Oh, and DD who is 10 mostly reads Jacqueline Wilson. She reads some classics (recently Five Children and It and What Katy Did, but only because JW wrote stories based on them). She enjoyed Black Beauty, hated Alice in Wonderland.

She doesn't get as obsessive about books as DS2 did at her age, but I am probably more chilled out about what she reads. As others have said a love of reading is more important than reading the "right" books.

antimatter · 14/08/2016 12:38

My son's 11+ English exam was loosely based on an opening paragraph of Swallows and Amazones which his dad read to him.
My kids read all thise books you've mentioned OP and reading never interfered with their studies. It enhanced it.
They both passed 11+ to selective Grammar schools.
I wonder how many hours of study do you expect your son to do this Summer.
I suspect he is rebelling against that and as it happens reading is his hobby. It could have been football, cricket or anything else.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 14/08/2016 12:24

Sorry Doctor that wasn't meant to sound like I disagreed with you - just that they're not as inappropriate as some other classics!

Are the young ones good? Is it worth me reading them (I like a good mystery), or are they definitely for children?

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 14/08/2016 12:21

I was reading Sherlock Holmes (but probably the short stories) at that age, I wouldn't worry too much... He might not understand everything but he can always re-visit them later!

I have a nice illustrated compendium of short Shakespeare (written as stories rather than plays). I'll look later to see who published it.

DoctorDonnaNoble · 14/08/2016 12:12

Holmes is aimed at grown ups. Search young Sherlock Holmes and you'll find full stories for younger (not by Conan Doyle). Various publishers do abridged versions. Puffin might.

pieceofpurplesky · 14/08/2016 08:48

Leon Garfield writes stories based on Shakespeare plays

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JemimaMuddledUp · 14/08/2016 07:27

I get what you are saying about the obsessiveness - DS2 has always been like this (he is now 12). I never thought I would despair because my child wouldn't put a book down, but at times I have!

As I say, he is 12 now and has grown out of the Harry Potter, LOTR etc obsession. He will still re-read books that he loves (he has read Curious Incident of the dog in the Night Time at least 3 times this year) but he doesn't get quite so wound up about them. His reading tastes are also broadening. He is currently reading 12 Years a Slave, which he found in the library and I probably wouldn't have picked off the shelf for him. But he is 12 and chooses what he wants to read himself.

When I was his age I read everything from Flowers in the Attic to Wuthering Heights. It is about finding out who you are and what you enjoy.

mom17 · 14/08/2016 07:16

Thanks everybody for your suggestion, seriously I have started appreciating his reading just because of you guys. He is on first book of His Dark Material. He has read Narnia books, series of unfortunate events, warriors twice. He didn't like House on the praire, railway children a year back and left after first chapter, I will try again. Is there any book of Shakespeare, Sherlock Holmes targeted for small children ?

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Redsrule · 14/08/2016 05:52

Well, in the school I teach in, Artimus Fowl is a Y7 reader and the first Skulduggery Pleasant Y8, both chosen to get them reading for pleasure! I would second Pullman's Dark Materials trilogy, beautifully written, and Phillip Reeves. You should be so proud of your son reading for pleasure. If the books enliven his imagination that is fabulous! If you want him to look at more 'traditional' books he might enjoy Geoffrey Trease or Swallows and Amazons but if he doesn't want to persevere don't see it as a problem - I also enjoy re-reading Harry P! As does my DD1 who is a, very overworked, junior doctor and spent last week lying by a pool reading Deathly Hallows!

AnnaMarlowe · 12/08/2016 16:31

If he's reading enthusiastically and borrowing from both school and local library then that's fine!

Reading should primarily be for fun.

I read most of the classics as a child but didn't really understand them (even though I could read them if you see what I mean)

I retread them all as a teenagers and it was like reading a whole new set of books. Being able to read the words isn't the same as being able to understand the themes or nuances.

If you are concerned that his reading is narrow why not go together to the library and ask the librarian for some recommendations - they love to help.

FeckinCrutches · 12/08/2016 16:23

Classics are boring, there, i've said it. You think Harry Potter is crappy/useless? I think they are perfect reading material for a 10yo.

DoctorDonnaNoble · 12/08/2016 16:17

The reading test on our 11 plus has had some Dickens (Bleak House) a few years ago. But has also used very up to date stuff. I think it would be best to separate reading for pleasure from comprehension unless he expresses an interest in the text the extract comes from.

pieceofpurplesky · 12/08/2016 15:39

Op you may also want to refer to them as classics not classicals (not dismissing your command of English here as it is excellent) but in literary terms they are classics. Grin

Let him enjoy reading - the new GCSE will ask for his reading of pre-20th Century reading but will be short extracts - perhaps get him a short story book ?

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 12/08/2016 14:59

Yes, but the point of comprehension is that you can read and understand an unknown text Grin

We did actually do some Dickens at prep school, but it was abridged and then some extracts from the original.

GinIsIn · 12/08/2016 14:51

Why are you giving him comprehension?! For god's sake, just let him enjoy books!!

mom17 · 12/08/2016 14:50

Oh !! I didn't read Oliver Twist and he is too innocent to understand any of these. I gave him that as we encountered some comprehension based on it. Frankly speaking, I started giving him classical as lots of comprehensions were based on it. I need to careful now.

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pieceofpurplesky · 12/08/2016 14:14

Also Michael Grant's 'the gone' series, the Girl With All the Gifts and Jon Mayhew's Mortloxk series would be great for him.

I am sure you were aware of the plot of Oliver Twist though? Young boy joins gang of thieves, makes friends with a young prostitute whose boyfriend murders her then kidnaps the young boy? No wonder he enjoyed it!

DelphiniumBlue · 12/08/2016 13:46

You've had lots of suggstions, I'd second Philip Pullman, and would add Jonathan Stroud, and Michael Morpurgo.
For depth of knowledge, and particularly if he enjoys Percy Jackson, can I suggest that you find some books on ancient Greece, maybe a children's version of the Iliad and the Odessy. There are fantastic illustrated versions of stories like Jason and the Argonauts, Theseus and the Minotaur, Perseus and Medusa. These old tales are referenced in Harry Potter and Percy Jackson, so he'll make the links.