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horrid henry!

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babs100 · 12/07/2012 07:52

Hi everyone, I've specifically joined this site in order to find out how to complain about these books! I expect most of us will have seen 'horrid henry' on tv, and my grandson likes the cartoon. They seemed acceptable, so I bought 2 Horrid Henry books - A giant slice of Horrid Henry, and A helping of Horrid Henry.
I was reading through them and realised they are just terrible books - advocating and encouraging all the behaviours that no-one - just no-one - would subscribe to!

I had thought that they would be rather like the 'william' books, where the boy is often misunderstood for wanting to do 'good' actions - and actually does things that we would all accept. Not the horrid henry books. Where to start? One of the main subjects is the fact that he loves junk food. That would, I suppose, be alright as a reflection of children's preference, but the book, as it were, endorses this, and encourages it. Just one chapter - horrid henry eats a vegetable.
Henry 'lies' - it actually says this -without any mention or indication that this is bad - his brother, peter, who likes 'healthy' food - is made to look silly - and his parents are made to be unpleasant characters themselves - they make a deal with henry that if he eats healthily they will take him to his favourite takeaway - knowing (it transpires at the end) -that it has been closed and replaced by a ?'dreadful' veggie cafe.
I'm not a vegetarian - and if there was anything pleasant or funny in this chapter it wouldn't be so bad - but it is just filled with Henry unpleasantly tricking and lying to his parents (pretending to eat his food by hiding it/throwing it on the floor etc) - not being found out - but being unkindly tricked by them in the end. If he had indeed eaten all his vegetables in order to be taken to 'Gobble and Go' - how cruel were his parents - knowing that it no longer existed??

Every chapter, as far as i can see, is similar in encouraging bad, anti-social, unkind behaviour. But I have no more time! - could anyone tell me how and who I can complain to about these books as they most certainly should not be on the shelves for young children to read.

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Designedbyscott123 · 13/08/2017 10:35

Really? This is how you choose to spend your time? I can only imagine how charmed and care-free your life must be. How about this for an idea? We stop complaining about all of life's injustices and stick to raising our children to know right from wrong, and most importantly the ability to distinguish fact from fiction. That's our job. I bet you're great fun at parties.

pumpkinsweetie · 14/07/2012 08:47

I love HH, all 4 dds love HH-i think its a unique cartoon with unique books, there is nothing else like it on the market.
Infact im yet to meet a child that doesn't like HH.
My eldest dd has nearly all the books and they have encouraged her to read a lot more often.
Tbh i do not see the point in complaining as all you have to do is get rid of the books or give them to someone else.
Theres much worse things to complain about, like teen mags for example

Frontpaw · 14/07/2012 08:40

I just don't like them. The cartoons are worse because of the irritating voices. The kid's a brat, but then most kids characters are!

I wouldn't write to anyone about it though... Its hardly going to make DS grow up to be a serial killer, is it? Usually if a child reads something with 'bad' bits, its the parents job to say "oh, he told a lie - that's naughty, and I am sure he will get found out and punished", or "dreadful vegetarian cafe?, well that's his opinion, but lots of people like them." Your kids will meet real life Henrys!

There will always be some books that the parents hate but the kids love.

Rockpool · 13/07/2012 15:05

Disliking is one thing,complaining and using words like "terrible" is another.

Op joined MN to specifically to find out where to complain about HH-Shock.I think that is errr extreme and yes says a lot about her parenting skills if she is soooo concerned about them to such an extreme.

Idreamof · 13/07/2012 14:52

rockpool it's ok, calm down.
Judging people's parenting skills on wether they like HH or not...says a lot about you. Grin

Rockpool · 13/07/2012 14:30

Yes the op or you, whoever I'm a little bit Hmm of anybody scared enough to make an extreme complaint re children's fiction and yes I think it does say a lot about their parenting skills.Sorry.

Idreamof · 13/07/2012 14:26

rockpool no, it's not me wanting to " complain " about HH, where have I written a very extreme post?
You are talking about the OP aren't you?

Rockpool · 13/07/2012 14:01

We enjoy reading other things too.

I questioned your parenting ability because you seem terrified of HH,want to complain officially about them and wrote a very extreme post about a range of books adored by many.

Vagaceratops · 13/07/2012 14:00

I love HH!

Idreamof · 13/07/2012 13:55

Mewooow rockpool, glad your kids enjoy them, and thanks for pointing out they are fiction, too.
And I am taking on board that my parenting skills are not up to scratch because we enjoy reading other things than HH Confused.

timetosmile · 13/07/2012 13:19

DS, just about to start High School, is through the HH phase and out the other side.

So there is hope.
Had you posted in 'relationships' I suspect there would be legions of women queueing up to bemoan the fact that their DPs were still going through it...

marge2 · 13/07/2012 13:15

cross posted with you DarreRivers, about the pants. Hysterical.

marge2 · 13/07/2012 13:13

Whaaaat? We love HH here. My boys love being horrified at what he does. We have a bit of a HH (DS1) and PP (DS2) situation in our house, so we think it's really funny. They certainly know that HH is BAD and PP is, well, just weird.... too good iykwim. SO funny when HH had to wear the pink frilly knickers in school for PE. He's certainly no hero here.

They LOVE reading it to themselves too and anything that will encourage DS1 read is good in my view.

Rockpool · 13/07/2012 13:07

PMSL at the op.Errrr not exactly sure you can complain about children's books as thankfully we don't live in a police state.

I think HH is fab,many,many children have got hooked into reading thanks to HH.The stories are funny,sometimes have a moral and Miranda Richardson reading them is pure genius.

Kids adore them and tbh if you're that scared of them it says a lot about your parenting skills-they're fiction!

Hulababy · 12/07/2012 19:59

Think HH's moral is to parents - don't treat one child that badly otherwise you will see the consequences!

DarrellRivers · 12/07/2012 19:57

I still chuckle when I think of HH taking those pants to school Smile
I think HH has a good heart

MrsApplepants · 12/07/2012 19:56

Why must there always be a 'moral' to children's stories? Why can't some books be for entertainment alone? If it encourages them to read then what is the problem? I don't think many children would see these books as a handbook in how to behave badly.

Idreamof · 12/07/2012 19:51

Well, I for one, cannot stand HH the irritating little blighter, neither.
Is it allowed?
The characters are beyond boring, I can not see the point of the stories, and for pure entertainment, there are many many other, better written, cleverer books to chose from.
Why the lashing towards OP?

mummytime · 12/07/2012 18:51

Have you read the story where Henry is good for a day? It's may favourite.

OP you sound very like Henry's dreadful parents. What is your opinion on Perfect Peter?

DontEatTheVolesKids · 12/07/2012 18:34

I think you're extremely precious, OP.
Or else your FS in disguise trying to drum up more publicity & sales (?).

If you read Francesca Simon's interviews she is the first to say that the whole thing is a farce & that children instantly see that & enjoy it for much.

Tee2072 · 12/07/2012 18:23

Wait, your whole blog is about this? Is that why you posted in Bloggers? Cuz, ya know, you didn't mention a blog in your OP.

Hulababy · 12/07/2012 17:02

And yes - DD enjoyed My Naughty Little Sister, Naughty Amelia Jane, etc too. What about comics and cartoons like Dennis the menace, etc too?

Fairy Tales - should we complain about what some children and parents do in them as well?

Hulababy · 12/07/2012 17:00

I have read many HH books. My DD as had several, almost all of them infact, in the past although never really watched the programmes. I have also read many of them to various Y1 classes over the years.

In my experience children straight away realise that HH's behaviour can be naughty, very much so, and that is part of what they enjoy. My DD never once copies ANY of the behaviour read about in the books, not once. Neither do the children I read them too. They all acknowledge it is pretend and it is silly stuff - not real life. We've even talked about them and every one of them pretty much can tell you what it wrong with the behaviour, why it is wrong, consequences and what they would do in similar situations.

Kids are not daft. They are not so easily persuaded on the whole in my experience to make them copy naughty behaviour. Yes - if you have a child who is already prone to such behaviour you might want to vet their reading materials a little more - but for the vast majority of children they are harmless books,=. Thats been my experience anyway.

As for complaining about them - who do you mean to? They are vastly popular books, there are loads of them. There is a TV programme based on them, a film and even a stage show. They will have done their market research and they know how popular these books are. Noone forces anyone to buy them - so just don't if you don't like them. But complain about them TBH can't see that getting anywhere at all.

Frontpaw · 12/07/2012 16:57

I don't like the cartoon - he is a little sod, and DS started copying the 'noooooooooooo!' until I told him to knock it off.

Losingitall · 12/07/2012 16:55

GET A LIFE!

It's a story. Have you complained yet about Hansel & Gretel or Rumpelstiltsken or Little Red Riding Hood or any other fairy tale?

They are FULL of sinister horrid murderous behaviours!Angry