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cm club: Do I charge for bank holidays?

29 replies

jazee · 09/07/2010 11:36

Hi everyone,
I have just had an enquiery for 3 days a week, one of which is a bank holiday.
The parent wont need me to have the child on the bank holiday. I said I would require half the days fee.
Worried I may not get the job as she said I was the most expensive, but I new she liked me. She said the previous minder was really not good! and seemed really happy with me and my setting. She is looking at two more minders.
Shall I change it to NO FEE
Help. work is very sparce at the mo.
What do people charge for bank holidays?

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jazee · 16/07/2010 11:33

Hi, me again,
Well, just to let you know, I did get the job, so really pleased as things have been so quiet where I live.
I asked for half fee for Bank Holiday and would negotiate a fee if she changed her mind. I couldn't charge double as that would be £80 the day. Too much.
Also got my holidays paid at half rate and families at half rate. So pleased, very pleased.

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TheBreastmilksOnMe · 12/07/2010 21:33

I don't charge because I don't work them. If a parent really needed me on a BH then I would charge time and a half or double.

CarGirl · 12/07/2010 21:30

MUM2BLESS if you're asked to work a BH I hope you ask for a higher premium than that!

MUM2BLESS · 12/07/2010 19:44

I do not charge for Bank Hols unless I work them. So far I have not worked B/h. I would however charge an extra £1.oo extra per hour

islandofsodor · 12/07/2010 11:35

I would not pay a childminder for a bank holiday unless they were open and available to mind on those days.

It is like others have said you can't expect to have the benefits of being employed whilst having the freedom of being self-employed.

Although I am employed in one job I and my dh are also self employed so do not get paid for bank holidays.

EmMum06 · 12/07/2010 11:20

Zoodle, I am slightly confused..you said you wanted to work Tuesday-Thursday, why did you change it to Monday-Wednesday?

zoodle · 11/07/2010 08:08

Half pay for her holidays, and half pay for mine. Why are bank holidays not seen as "holiday"? They are counted in the minimum number of days which employees have to have per year.

How much give and take is there on this? It seems like she is getting the best of both worlds - demanding employee-type benefits whilst being self-employed.

I agree with Car-Girl - I would rather pay a higher daily rate and not pay bank holidays. It's not fair that working Mondays should be so much more expensive than the other days of the week.

CarGirl · 10/07/2010 20:50

My CM didn't charge if she wasn't available for work - she has all part timers and tbh I would rather pay a higher hourly rate than a lower one and start having to pay for bank holidays, holidays etc as it starts to get very complicated and unfair if you only use cm 1 or 2 days per week and they happen to be Mondays and Fridays!

HSMM · 10/07/2010 20:45

zoodle - I don't think you are paid 60% for bank holidays, I think you are just NOT paid for Thursday and Friday. Re your comment about holidays - do you pay for her holidays?

majafa · 10/07/2010 13:55

I wont work on a Bank Holiday, therefore I dont charge.

zoodle · 10/07/2010 13:14

I'm contracted Tuesday to Thursday, so have to do three days a week of work a week. I agreed to have childminding Monday to Wednesday because my employer is pretty flexible most weeks on when I do these days, and I like the minder.

My employer uses my total days holiday by taking 60% of normal holiday days plus bank holidays. Bank holidays will be taken off this (if there are any that year) and I get to choose when I take the remainder. So effectively I'm paid 60% on the bank holidays I suppose. But she's asking to be paid 100%.

Another option would be to adjust her holiday in the same way I suppose. Is this ever done?

xoxcherylxox · 10/07/2010 11:05

do you work bank holidays then and just get normal pay and bank holidays included in your 25 days. all every1 is entitles to 25 days paid holiday which includes bank holidays but the bank holidays dont need to be taken on the actual bank holiday day

zoodle · 10/07/2010 10:01

PS I don't get paid bank holidays, so her excuse that office workers get paid rankles just a little.

zoodle · 10/07/2010 09:57

I came on here to ask exactly the same question!

I am just about to start working a three day week.

I wanted to work Tuesday to Thursday; she has said she'd like three days in a row so I chose Monday to Wednesday. However, she's now said she charges bank holidays at full pay.

While this is (possibly) acceptable when one is taking her on full time, I really don't think it's fair that I should pay her for all bank holidays when I only work three days a week, just because one of them happens to be a Monday. (Christmas and NY work out to be Mondays too this year.)

Should I offer to pay 60% on bank holidays?

Or maybe adjust her total holiday days to allow for it?

lillyr · 10/07/2010 09:55

I charge normal fee if contracted as I am available. Up to parents then if they bring their child or not. So far all parents have said, " we're having a paid day off, enjoy yours too "! My dp works any way so I don't mind if I an needed.

mranchovy · 10/07/2010 01:17

Why should you charge this parent more per day of child care than another parent that has Tue/Wed/Thur?

ChildrenAtHeart · 09/07/2010 20:47

Ditto. If I'm available parent pays, if I'm not they don't, and I am not avail BH's so no fee. Keeps it simple and as 2 of my parents are also SE they don't get paid BH's either.

BoysAreLikeDogs · 09/07/2010 19:41

me too henni

hennipenni · 09/07/2010 19:39

I don't charge cos I will not work them.

Hopandpop · 09/07/2010 19:01

i charge for bank hols but i also work them, makes no odds to me as my fella works them too-all of them

looneytune · 09/07/2010 19:00

No4 - they've recommended that for years, just can't remember where I saw it all actually written LOL.

HSMM · 09/07/2010 17:57

I just find it easier to tell parents that I charge when I'm available. I don't want to work bank holidays, so I don't charge. If I was available, then I certainly would charge.

Numberfour · 09/07/2010 17:57

I don't charge for BH because I don't want to work them: if you charge you should be available to work. I prefer to spend the time with my family than work or even just to think that I might be called on to work.

However, I do have a wobbly every now and then and think that perhaps I should charge.

OP, if the parent really wants you (and they can afford you), they will come to you whether you charge BH or not. And Good Luck! Hope it works out!

(Interested to see the NCMA recommends 4 paid weeks leave year.... hmmmm.....)

looneytune · 09/07/2010 14:50

I used to charge standard rate but if needed to work them, charged double. I decided some time ago that I don't want to work them so I changed this to no fee (but if really needed and I work, I would charge double). This works ok for me now as I get paid a set monthly fee with all my holidays and bank hols deducted and the overall figure spread out over 12 months.

NCMA recommend we get 4 weeks PAID holiday a year so I would have thought they'd recommend being paid. But I got bored of the 'why should you get paid, you're SE' arguments on MN (which I partially agree with but the other part of me thinks that comparing us to plumbers and the like ISN'T the same as we have regular contracts and our fees are no where near as high as that etc......anyway that's been done to death now! lol) that I stuck with not being paid!

pippin26 · 09/07/2010 12:39

NCMA is sitting on the fence on this one. They allow (!!!)childminders to make up their own minds.

Judging by other threads on other forums - i think there is an even spilt about those charging for bank and public holidays.

Personally I charge my normal fee if it falls on a contracted day - however if they want me to work it then its double the fee.
Its the only 'paid' holiday I get. Parents have always been fine with this.
there is a huge thread about it over on Netmums.