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Urgent! How much would you pay your nanny to look after your kids for a whole weekend (incl nights)???

84 replies

Avocadoes · 30/05/2010 20:58

Just back from a weekend away. Our nanny looked after our girls for two nights and two days. She had previously said she would charge the hourly rate for this service. I actually thought it was pretty steep to charge £10 per he (her normal rate) for hours age was asleep but assumed it was normal so said ok. So 55 hours away this weekend amounted to £550! I thought she had donw pretty well out of that and gave her the huge wad of cash only for her to say it's normal to give a nanny 1.5x pay on Sundays! So she wants another £80.

I know we should have discussed exact details before but we didn't. Am I being taken for a ride or is it normal to pay £630 for a weekend of childcare?

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StarExpat · 01/06/2010 06:32

She is taking the piss. Even with the £10/hr for overnight. Don't pay the extra £80. She'll just keep doing it if you give in this time. People who take advantage of others like this make me . Yes, you agreed to the rate and that's your fault but very cheeky of her to even charge that much when most very experienced nannies do not.

K75 · 31/05/2010 23:01

Another comparison, £10 per hour babysitting; so we pay all awake hours as babysitting; so 13 hours for us for two days; £260 plus £20 extra for sleeping over i.e. £300 total.

Karoleann · 31/05/2010 21:24

We pay ours £9/hour during the day, £8 per hour babysitting. +£50 overnight after 11pm. When the children were still waking at night I paid extra for that.
So we would have paid her about £400.
Don't give her any more cash!!

Blondeshavemorefun · 31/05/2010 20:58

drhunt - hmmmmmmm orgagami - that i CANT do but i can get 3 children in bed by 7pm

seriously tho, the 10ph for every hour is a bit steep, as i said i charge £200 per 24hrs BUT you did agree to this and from what you are saying you dont object to paying the £240 per 24hrs just the additional £80

riven, i think one of us should come to you and social services can pay us so you and dh can go out for an day/evening as i know you dont get out much

sarah293 · 31/05/2010 20:42

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drinkyourmilk · 31/05/2010 20:14

Christ riven! I'm an SEN nanny and i charge £150 per 24hrs too.

sarah293 · 31/05/2010 20:08

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Hanl30 · 31/05/2010 20:00

I also agree that she is asking far too much. I never charge hourly rate overnight (unless i have a child who wakes)-i charge half rate. However i do agree that these things always need discussing before you go. I would pay what you agreed and make sure she is aware what the rate is for next time.

nannyl · 31/05/2010 19:34

i too charge £150 per 24 hours...

i think that is an extortionate amount for her to charge you, but i guess if £10 / hour is in contract that is what she is expecting...

unless time and half is in contract i would not give it to her!!!!

sounds like she is being very greedy

wrinklyraisin · 31/05/2010 18:26

She wants how much???!!!!

Bloody hell. That's as much as I make for a 24/5.5 position.

She is seriously taking the michael.

Irishchic · 31/05/2010 18:03

Avocadoes I do understand why you do not want to change your nanny at this point.

But I would have a discussion with her about the contract between you and what is understood by additional pay over weekends and so on so that she is very clear from now on what is agreed between you on these occasions.

Perhaps some amendments or additions to the contract might be necessary for the sake of clarity going forward.

If she is as good as you say, then let it go this time, but as Nannynick says, it is something to keep an eye on.

FabIsGoingToGetFit · 31/05/2010 17:09

I think you have to pay the £240 but not the extra £80. I would also make it clear you don[t take kindly to strops - should she have one about this when she has had one about the holiday. I suspect someone else has mentioned time and a half to her and as you are paying her a ridiculous amount already she is trying her luck.

DrOwenHunt · 31/05/2010 16:15

firstly to blonde i have a black belt in orgagami so trumps!!
and to the lady that appreciates that iam not the only female on the planet that thinks dr hunt is fit!!!

eastmidlandsnightnanny · 31/05/2010 15:43

I agree with what others have said she is cheeky to ask for hrly rate for all hrs worked although if you dont ask you dont get and she asked and you agreed which is fine but her asking for even more after an agreement is taking the piss!!

Most nannies have a 24hr rate they charge mine being same as blondes which is £200 unless have a baby that wakes at night and needs feeding, takes time to settle etc or have children that think 5am is a great time to get up then I do charge a little more but if children tend to sleep til 6.30/7am and go to bed before 9/10pm (obv I am thinking older children going to bed that late) then a 24hr fee is acceptable.

Maybe add an amendment to her contract that has a 24hr fee - that reflects her experience and qualifications - this can be anyway from £100-£200 as you have seen on here, and if she wants to add time/half for sundays I suppose thats something you would need to negotiate and if need be add it and then not use her on a sunday!

Blondeshavemorefun · 31/05/2010 15:18

'spits in hand and offers in agreement'

hope tomorrows chat goes well

if it doesn't point her to this thread and tell her us nannies (well me anyway) think she is a greedy cow and taking the piss and trying it on !!!

Yes I charge double for bank holiday if asked to work (never) but spoke about it upfront at interview and is in contact so both employer and employee know about it and agreed

Avocadoes · 31/05/2010 12:46

Thanks everyone. The awkward conversation looms but at least I am confident in my position.

Nikita - I appreciate why you wld question whether I want to continue with this nanny but for now I do. This incident does leave a bad taste in my mouth but that doesn't cancel out the fact that she is great with my kids and they love her. Friends who see the nanny with my kids at toddler groups etc always comment on how great she is with the kids. Also my girls don't settle easily with new people so it would be a huge upset to move them.

As for who gets to watch them next time. It'll have to be Blondes. Sorry DrOwenHunt but I can think of much better things to pay you £10 an hour for ( I presume you won't let Christina stand in our way).

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Blondeshavemorefun · 31/05/2010 12:11

love bc. Do it 3 times a week. Very theraputic and also good self defence class

nannynick · 31/05/2010 10:54

Oh I did body combat once... it's hard. So I won't fight you for it!
BodyVive is easier... off to do that now, class at 11.30am

Blondeshavemorefun · 31/05/2010 10:51
DrOwenHunt · 31/05/2010 10:47

blonde i am looking after her dc, after all i am a dr!!!

Blondeshavemorefun · 31/05/2010 10:42

glad you found the contract and as nothing is written in it at what rate you pay then as nanny didnt say BEFORE you went away that she charged/wanted time and a half on a sunday,then she doesnt get it

next time you go away, I will come and be paid 10ph every hour and look after your dc

i dont think you need to look for a new nanny, just keep an eye on things

DrOwenHunt · 31/05/2010 10:38

shit i will be your nanny! is she taking the piss or what? is she mary fucking poppins or something?

nannynick · 31/05/2010 10:36

Avocadoes - I would go with what is written in the contract. Looks to me as though that occasional overnight care was to be expected and agree with Nikita that there is implied agreement on the overnight rate based on previous.

You now have a piece of paper which is signed by your nanny which sets out what the agreement is between you. Tell your nanny that you will pay the agreed amount of usual hourly rate for all the hours and show the contract if necessary. Ball is then in the nannies court - she may not be happy but she did sign the contract and didn't agree anything different in advance for this occasion, or for what exactly was meant as "additional agreed rate".

I do agree with Nikita with regard to the attitude being displayed by your nanny. I don't agree that it is necessary to look for another nanny if everything else is going well, but this may be the start of a slippery slope so it needs keeping a close eye on.

Irishchic · 31/05/2010 10:18

Avocadoes you are correct. In the absence of an explicitly written term regarding the amount of additional pay, there is an implied agreement on the overnight rate based on the previous overnight your nanny did for you. And even if this was the first time, the clause "paid at an additional agreed rate" does not confer the right to what the nanny is now asking for. You already agreed that the normal hourly rate would apply, even for the hours slept, which is an additional agreed rate in itself, so either way, your position is covered here.

That is my opinion as a professional. But my opinion as a mother and employer of a Nanny would be start looking for another Nanny, the attitude displayed by this blatant attempt to twist your arm is not the type of thing I would expect or want from someone who is looking after my children.

bigstripeytiger · 31/05/2010 09:47

I would interpret 'additional' in the same way as you, ie additional to the standard salary.

I think if she said hourly rate then you were entitled to assume that she meant the usual hourly rate, not some variation of that that you had never heard of before.

It wont do much for your relationship with the nanny though. She does sound like she is trying it on a bit.