Two nanny problems

We-ell the thing with a nanny share is that yes, it's split 50-50 BUT the rate is often higher to compensate the nanny for working for 2 families, keeping 2 sets of parents happy etc so a £10/hour nanny might be getting closer to £13/hour, which shared between the two sets of parents makes it £6.50/hour which is more than half the hourly rate.

Then factor in it's not a nanny share - she's going to be your employee, you call the shots which means that she will need to put the needs of your child before her own rather than balance the two equally as is typical in a nanny share.

You can offer 50% but it's highly unlikely she'd accept, and unless she's very experienced or you're in a high paying area 50% of her previous wage may not be NMW. My guy instinct would be 70%.

Sorry for posting my questions twice, my computer did not re-fresh somehow. Thank you GoldFrakkincenseAndMyrrh for answering my question.

Basically we are looking for a nanny now, and there is a lady keen on the job but she has a child herself. I was just wondering how much i should offer her. Basically this situation looks to me very similar to nanny-share. So I was going to offer her 50% deduction. Does it sound too bad?

What is the market rate for nanny bringing in her own child please? Thank you!

That rather depends on her salary currently (if you employ her before the birth) or what she's been getting in her previous job. In general a 25-30% reduction in what would be expected without the child but there isn't an expected reduction - it depends on individual circumstances - and some nannies won't take a paycut at all, especially if they were in post before getting pregnant.

In the case of nanny bringing in her own child, what is the salary range for her? Many thanks in advance!

sorry all - its my first time on mumsnet and i wasn't sure how to start a new thread...let me try now

Pomigra yes you can. A nanny is only entitled to return to the job she left with the same conditions. If she wants to bring her child that would be different conditions so you would need to agree to that. But do start a new thread to get more detailed.

Lol, I didn't notice either and was about to reply. I hope the OP managed to sort the nanny problem out! :) (Poor baby being hit 5+ times a day :( )

Lol - I hadn't noticed

Oh yes, so it is - LOL!

this thread is 8mths old

im always bemused that a poster trawls through old posts then replies to bump it up

why on earth dont they start a new thread?

wonder which nanny ronipops went for - no 1 no 2 or a 3rd one

Ronipops - has your nanny decided herself when she starts her maternity leave? I'm not totally sure on this but I think I have read that you can tell her when she should start her maternity leave and I think it can be as early as 29 weeks.

Pomigra - yes, start a new thread, but just quickly - the nanny has no right to bring her child back to work with her after her maternity leave, so if that is what she was planning and you tell her that she can't bring the baby then she will probably decline coming back.

Pomigra - Can I suggest you start a thread re your problem - there are lots of legally minded people who may be able to help you but may not see your request here. x

I'd go with Nanny No. 1. Good luck with it all, it's a bloody minefield!

my nanny joined me in end Apr2010. 2 weeks after she joined she told me she was pregnant. the first few months she was fine at her work but then as she got bigger she was very tired and unable to keep up with my son who was learning to walk. My son would cry towards the end when she arrived in the morning. Whenever I would see her outside she was on the mobile and my son was just playing on his own. In the house she was extremely stressed and would often arrive to work crying because she had marital issues. She had no real love for my son and it was obvious she was pushing herself to work because she needed the money. She also complained seriously to other people about how awful i was and how she was going to take me to the cleaners. she is generally a very difficult and I'd say affected person.
she is now on maternity leave since October (she worked about 5.5months with me) and says she wants to come back to work one month after her son is born.
meanwhile i have a new nanny covering her work whilst she is on maternity leave that my son has really bonded with. the atmosphere in the house has improved dramatically and i would rather keep my new nanny who i really get on with.
Can I legally do that? Given that my old nanny worked less than 6months for me can I give her notice and maternity pay and end her contract on the basis that I did not enjoy working with her and having her in my house?

I think children are just as different as nannies and there isn't really much cause to say that because child of nanny a hit my son therefore child of nanny c will do the same. No nanny / child / employer is perfect. You may spend so much effort avoiding one bad situation that you find yourself in another bad situation.

I would just talk to potential nanny about the current situation and ask her what she would do if a similar one arises. ALso ask her how she would propose to deal with it if your son were the one hitting / biting. I she proposes a resonable cinsistent disciplinary approach that involves all of the adults (you, your DH, the nanny) working together than I would be happy with that.

Hello Ronipops

Have you tried using National Nannies?
They charge a flat rate placement fee of £600 for a full time nanny.

Hi i have just been in a very similar situation accept i was the nanny and my charge kept hitting my son. He never used to hit her back until a couple of months ago and he started to retaliate, it was very hard as no matter how many time i tried to disapline them they just seemed to rub each other up the wrong way.

In the end i took my materninty leave early as it was all getting too much, my son wasn't happy, neither was my charge, i was just so worn out so i asked to leave early. Maybe your nanny will also need to leave early when the reality of working when heavily pregnant kicks in.

Could current nanny get someone else to have her little one sometimes so she wouldn't always have to bring it to work with her. I did this a few times and it really helped.

IMO even if nanny 2 is wonderful and her child is an angel you're probably always going to have this niggling doubt in your mind going forwards. It's doubly sad because nanny-with-own-child can be a wonderful thing and really beneficial for both parties on many levels but I don't think (for now at least) you would be able to see nanny 2 and her child without the shadow of this experience with current nanny. If your gut instinct is with nanny 1 anyway then I think you should listen to it!

The current nanny can't do much more than she is already (I assume, I don't know her methods of disciplining) but it speaks well for her that she discusses it with you and is open about her own child's behaviour. As others have pointed out this is a risk whenever there's more than one child but I do understand it's particularly difficult when it's happening in your son's own home and the hitter is the nanny's child. I do think you need to talk to your current nanny about it and how it's making you feel though.

Could current nanny's child be reacting to her pregnancy if the behaviour is quite recent?

I said bullied not op

maybe have a trial day with both nannys and see how child of no 2 plays with your child

then how do you know he is 'bullied'?

Are you working from home?