EYFS - Is it OK to backdate my planning paperwork?

I dread to think what response you'd get from this company if you had a problem with their software and made a complaint!

I love mumsnet and have found people in general to be polite and welcoming. Perhaps that's because I'm not aggressive and unpleasant to others.

I wasnt suggesting you werent going to babydays

You come across as a rather argumentative/stroppy person so perhaps MN isnt the best place for you.

Over the last 6 years I have in general found MN a very welcoming and friendly place

(Its a public forum, if I would like to add my 2 cents worth I will!)

And that's exactly what I (WAS) going to do, not sure I want to now!!

BUT I did NOT want to advertise with them, they wanted money from me to ask for testers, they would have got their money, but why would I spend money on advertising 6 months ago when we had nothing for sale!

Anyone else want to put their 2 cents in here !!!!!

Anyway, I am off, you know where we are if you need us, it was good speaking to some of you and I wish you all the best with your childminding, I won't be back on this forum, too many people on here looking for arguments and I unfortunately don't have time for that.

What an odd thread! - I agree with BALD!

And fwiw babydays, you would need to pay to advertise anything on mumsnet as well......................

BabysDays 'Appears to be quite a lot of people in this forum that just want to argue all the time, it's a shame they spoil it for others! '

hmm couldn't agree more with you BabyDays - not being a 'regular' on this forum I do actually find this site rather intimidating and the manner of posting abrupt and insensitive at times (there are some really lovely postings at times too). Perhaps because its anon that people feel that they can really express themselves at times.

Always good to have the last word, clearly you have made up your mind on which side of the story to take

Appears to be quite a lot of people in this forum that just want to argue all the time, it's a shame they spoil it for others!

Sorry - this will be MY final word as I have no wish to upset or trash anyone.
BabyDays you say that the forum/owner didn't communciate with you however
a) I notice in your other postings you are saying Mumsnet haven't communciated with you (initally) - yet you refrain from making 'honest and open' comments about them

b)you say that the forum didn't communicate with you yet you say that you were told you had to pay? I presume that was the non-communication you are on about then.

c) making silly comments on peoples Twitter pages and then going on to be 'open and honest' about them in other places really doesn't make you look professional or businesslike at all IMO.

I am sure other members of the forum will be 'aware' of your product and members will make their own minds up.

Apologies to the OP'er and mumsnet for digressing away from the OP but I really feel it was unfair and unjust and I needed to defend my friends - which is what The Forum as a whole equates to.

oi oi

take it off board please

thank you

That's fine, you make us out to look like the bad ones

Communication goes a long way nowadays and thats is all we asked for, a little communication!

I have copies of all my messages to you and your replies back to me, so you must have received them.

Yes, I think it best to end this now and hope you will refrain from making such remarks in the future.

You never replied to our messages, I have got more from you now than we ever have.

The post asked for beta testers, it did not say come and buy our software its amazing, we weren't even selling it, we didn't want to sell it then.

You never said make a contribution at all, if that is what you wanted then you should have said.

We have spent £thousands on advertising and would have advertised with your forum without question, it seemed to me that you were only thinking about the money.

Maybe I am wrong and if I am I apologise for that but not replying to us did not help the situation.

Let this be the end of this unfortunate incident and good luck with your site, I thinkyour members willbecome aware of our product over time.

Regards

Mark.

I would like to clear a few points but will not get into a discussion on this:

BabysDays is NOT banned from the Childminding Forum and never has been.

He joined the Forum and posted a message which broke Forum advertising/business use rules - even though these rules had been explained when joining.

When these were explained again to him and he was told that offering testing of a product is a still a means of advertising, I received a private message which I found upsetting.

I also got a childish message via Twitter so I simply blocked Babysdays, which is my prerogative.

I receive no funding for running the Forum, it is my own personal site, why shouldn't a business make a little contribution towards running costs in return for the massive audience their product would be shown to? It also prevents the Forum from being over run with advertising and businesses that are just there to take advantage and spoiling it.

At no point did he ask how much of a contribution me might have to make - shame because it would not have been much and he would have got so much support from the Forum.

I have just been looking at your other posts BabyDays re your product.
So how long would your product have been 'free' for. I presume not permanantly you would be reeling in the customers, get them hooked and then obviously they have to start paying. So in effect, nothings 'free'.

However, that is your business venture to whcih you are entitled.

I don't think I have turned your comments into something they weren't, you were being intentionally disrepectful to the site owner/site - unfairly and in my eyes wrongly. The owner has no idea of what is being said about her/the forum and therefore has no chance to put her side across should she wish to. So just on that basis you were being grossly unfair and rather unprofessional.

Hi pippin

Like I said, my comments were open and honest, I think you have maybe turned this in to something it clearly isn't.

The owner or whoever runs the site had no interest in communicating with us, prefering to just ban us instead.

We were looking for testers, NOT to advertise, they wanted money for us to do this, perhaps they should have seen the big picture and realised their members would have got something for FREE!!

Still a shame!

Regards

Mark.

Obviously you have your opinion BabyDays and I have no knowledge of what has passed between you and the owner but I actually find it quite offensive that you feel the need to say ' it is clearly a money making tool for the owner' going on to say 'site is clearly interested in making money rather than helping its members'.

You are very wrong in your assumptions and I have no idea about slander laws but I find it wrong that you should talk about what was obviously a private business transaction in this way. Surely a PRIVATE business arrangement (or not in this case) should remain private. The owner of the Childminding Forum has not talked about you/your business in anyway - neither promoting nor disrespecting you in the manner you have about the Forum.

You call it being open and honest, I call it sounding quite bitter about YOUR potential money making business venture being rejected.

I repeat - does the owner of the site know you are talking about her/the Forum in this manner?

The site DOES help minders, its a huge network and the owner genuinely does care, contrary to your opinions. There is tons of FREE advice, support and information/document sharing on the site as well as businesses that seem happy to advertise.

Of course the Forum may not suit everybody and that is their perogative but I find it a low blow to be so accusatory when the owner has no means of reply.

pippin26, it is indeed a shame, it's a shame that they were not willing to make their childminder members aware that we were looking for testers of our system in exchange for a years FREE subscription!

Maybe they are very interested in helping childminders, they are also very interested in making money as well.

My comments were in no way slanderous, just open and honest.

Babydays - its a shame that you feel the need to talk about the childminding forum like that. I presume the owner of the site knows you are talking about them like that as well?

I can assure you that the site is VERY interested in helping childminders and I would imagine nearly all the minders on there would bear testament to that.

I can also assure you that the site/owner is NOT interested in just making money - there is a genuine interest and care by the owner.

They wouldn't, Mumsnet are nice and I'm sure would be happy to see things on this section that will help us childminders

Well I hope they don't because I want to advertise on here !!

Doesn't make any sense to me. At least Mumsnet haven't blocked you

I know looneytune, they also banned us on their twitter account as well, we were actually offering the members who helped us a FREE account for a year as well.

Had they done that for us 6 months ago then absolutely we would have advertised with them, I was completely gobsmacked to be honest - greedy springs to mind!

But like they say, what goes around... :-)

Oh look, I just found how to use the smiley faces on this forum

Have a great day

Regards

Mark.

That's crazy Babydays, you're right that this is all to HELP childminders. Surprised they banned you!

Hi Daisydaydreamer

That childminding forum were not interested in our system as they wanted us to pay just to mention our product, that forum promotes themselves as a forum to help childminders, however, it is clearly a money making tool for the owner.

We were looking for beta testers for our system and asked them if they would mention this on their forums, they said yes they would do it but we had to pay them for this.

I asked them how exactly this was helping childminders as all we wanted was some people to test our system, they never replied to us and then banned us from their forum.

That site is clearly interested in making money rather than helping its members which really is a shame.

Regards

Mark.

Why not just start from 'now' rather than trying to backdate.

All I use is an A4 ring binder,
I use a template obs form - stick the photo in
describe what the child is/was doing
what it links to in the EYFS
what my involvement was
and next steps

the more you refer to EYFS the more used to it you will become.

Not every obs has a photo, some are more detailed written documents.

From the childs interests i develop planning.

check out www.childmindingforum.co.uk for tons of advice and support from other minders.

where can i find this learning journey package?