how much?

good point - can you get the childcare bit of tax credits?

registered for child benefit? (not means tested. if not, do it!)

I'd try privately - people at the lower end of the market may be less likely to use an agency.

you may find if you have a 2nd that no-one will take you though, and childminding or other types of childcare are your only route.

(belts do go in when you have kids - bad luck. fwiw, I paid my nanny with own child about 90% of my take home, so being able to take your own child is a monster perk. bear in mind things like extra damage to employers home, and general increase in costs to employer. From experience, I think it was more bad than good, and therefore wouldn't pay as much for nwoc.

are there any jobs really close to you? if you lost the petrol / car costs you could probably do a bigger salary cut, which might then make you an appealing prospect.

Or the dreaded afterschool+holiday type role? If you were to add in a retainer for sick days, and get the holidays as full working days, does this allow any lifestyle juggling if you have more time at home?

Bad luck - kids are expensive... I'm just starting to realise how bad it is!

Looking longer term, look at the local schools, and which school yours will go to - advertise round there and local playgroups and preschools - you might find someone where you're the ideal fit and could provide long-term continuity. Nannyjob, childcare.co.uk, and even gumtree might come up.

Sure you are, but write your CV differently 4 each type of role. eg if applying for nanny housekeeper, highlight the management, organisational parts. And the paragraph of response for each application, tailor it to fit. Lots of people don't seem to.

Swaps with other people (any local mums you could swap a day with? Work 4 days... maybe down to a couple of days with a childminder or take own child only a couple of days? Own child a couple of days only would be more appealing to me)

Good luck though. It's a right b**r

my friend used to work part time and get working tax credit which bumped her wages up is that not available to you ?

have a look on gumtree.com they have jobs on there where you can take your child

Sarah have you considered weekend nanny as well as night nanny work when I assume your partner would be at home to provide childcare.

Night nanny work isnt so easy to get into even with lots of years of baby experience you may find first night nanny job you would have to do at about 60% of going rate to get experience - try advertising privately specifically as a night nanny.

Whatever line of work you go into you are likely to need childcare so can you find a job that pays enough by the sounds of it to afford childcare you need to be earning about £12 an hr gross - qualified nurses only earn around this and not many jobs pay this.

you say you cant afford to work for less or equally pay a childminder at the moment for what you would be earning - however can you afford not to work?!

Can you just work on the days that grandparents help out?

good luck

I think you may be confused about the various ofsted registers. Your nanny reg won't enable you to childmind to my knowledge. If you were to reg as a CM it would be a new reg as per anyone else starting out. Only thing that may speed it up is your existing CRB as that will have been done by Ofsted, so they may accept it. Your DH/DP would need a CRB, so there could still be the CRB check delay. Don't think you are considering being a CM now anyway.

That's a long day! Maybe just keep looking for families who will take a nanny with her own child (maybe families with more than one child will be more open to it?) and hopefully something will come up. I'd keep looking on your netmums local childcare board and just keep sending messages or ringing up people who post parent in need of childcare (who want a nanny) and hopefully someone will bite soon

If you only had to send your dc to cm 3 days/week for 8 hours each day, that would only be £120/week at £5/hour or £96/week at £4/hour (if you can find this in your area).

That's a lot better than paying for it full time.
Then you could make a regular nanny salary. But I don't know how many hours/day people need nannies for...

could your parents help look after your dc while you nanny some of the time and maybe a cm the other part of the time? Then the cm price would be cut in half and you could earn more? Again, I don't know about the circs with your parents so maybe not.

Maybe nursery nurse? Would you be able to have your own dc go at a reduced rate if you worked there?

could you move/travel to an area which pays better/has more jobs?

could you cm?

I wasn't trying to be negative. I had just never thought of nanny bringing dc to work in that way before. And then thought how appealing it would be if I could bring mine with me. But realized I wouldn't be able to put him 2nd to anyone anyway.

Interesting other side to it, too tender.

just trying to help otherwise. Sorry you are having a rough time. Best of luck.

we are here to help, but your replies were rather abrupt

you originally asked how much cms are as you cant find a job to take your child with you

so my reply was that you would earn more taking a paycut RATHER then earning a normal wage and then losing maybe almost half of it to a cm

and your reply was stroppy

your employer shouldnt pay you late and you need to stand up for yourself

good luck with the search

I have more sympathy for the OP. The subject of 'why should nannies get to to take their children to work with them when I can't' comes up often and I feel the point is always missed. Nannies expect to be able to bring their children to work because people are willing to employ them on that basis. Just as if I was a city lawyer I would expect to earn a hundred grand a year. In both cases whether my expectations are met or not depends on someone employing me on those terms. You set your expectations by what the market will bear. As a teacher, who made the decision to have a child, you would expect to paying a large portion of your salary for childcare.

I've stayed in childcare because when I have my own children I want to keep them with me while making some money. If I find that I can't do this I will be pissed off like the OP is, just as if I'd spent 5 years studying to be lawyer and couldn't get a well paying job.

people were trying to give you advice funky2sarah but you snapped back. good luck finding what your looking for.

I hadn't thought of it that way. That's very very true. I pay a cm and I'm a teacher. It cuts hugely into our pay to pay the cm but we have to work to pay other bills and rarely have a lot left over to enjoy ourselves. Since I pay for childcare, it means that my take home wages are much, much lower in the end. But that's just the way life is...

Although I teach young children, I'd never even be able to consider bringing ds to work with me. I'm there to to my job. Looking after a toddler is full on, even if you put other kids first (which, if I'm totally honest, I'd never be able to do... I have a very strong work ethic. But my child comes first).
In fact, I can't think of any job where you can bring your own dc and get paid for it...
It does sound nice, though. I would love that

I can never understand why nannies think that they should be able to bring their own child to work for a minimal drop in rates. What other job would allow you to do this? Basically most people have to pay for full time childcare to do a fulltime job - why is it so different for a nanny? The rate you quote is more than a lot of people earn so why do you expect to have no childcare costs?

In any case may I suggest that you lose the attitude if you really want a job, you have such a sense of entitlement at the momenmt it's no wonder you are struggling to find an employer.

I would hope that the agencies are not just sending your CV but are actually pre-selling you to clients first.

Lollipop has a couple of jobs where a nanny with own child will be considered. However I don't think those jobs will pay you enough, plus they are not full-time. If Ascot and Windsor are area's you could easily get to, then worth having a chat with Lollipop if you haven't already.