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Is it me,or the competition is really tight for nannies in London?nannies&even parents please help

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NannyNorthLlondon · 14/01/2010 17:10

I am looking for a nanny position since november,I tried agencies aswell,I have been for a few interviews,but no answer..
I have 3 years exp as live-in nanny+some volunteer in Eu,Icp and first aid...the crb is in progress.I am starting to get worried little bit,maybe I am doing something wrong at the interviews or my qualifications are not enough,I really dont know,because I have excellent references,and the 2 families I worked for have been really pleased with me,and we still keep in contact,but they dont need me anymore.
Nannies who have more experience and parents..what should I do?some advice please.
Thank you

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Blondeshavemorefun · 19/01/2010 21:37

mothers helps get/ask £7/9nett - thought that was what nannies got?

NannyNorthLlondon · 19/01/2010 20:32

[hug] it is good that I was born later then, so now I take all the benefits

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drinkyourmilk · 19/01/2010 20:31

blimey - i nearly took a live-in nanny job recently that paid £300 net per week and I'm 32, 13yrs experience. Thought that was on the lower end of normal?

frakkinaround · 19/01/2010 20:14

That's gone up about £100 in 3 years....

wails quietly in the corner

I knew I was born too early!

NannyNorthLlondon · 19/01/2010 20:06

frankkina most mothers help vacancies i`ve seen are paid between 7-9£/h net.So if you do 50h/week with the 7£/h equals 350£

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frakkinaround · 19/01/2010 19:54

Mothers helps earn £350 a week now?

Bloody hell where were all these jobs when I started?! My perm job before last I was on £1500 a month as a FT sole charge nanny which is about £350 a week, no? (Not very good at maths) I wouldn't have expected much more than that in my next job had it not been drastically different.

A drivers license I think would help more than a diploma in childcare. I nannied before I was qualified and whilst a qualification has been a plus, driving was much more important.

NannyNorthLlondon · 19/01/2010 13:34

Strix of course you have to be good at math to study accountancy .I am actually good at plenty things and even if I am not I try to be

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Strix · 19/01/2010 13:23

That mother was well out of line, actually. I have drilled into my kids that weekends are hers and they are not allowed to so much as breathe on her door.

I think you might be well suited to put something into your ad about being able to tutor a bit of math. If you can math fun for Key stage 1 I think you could well offer to replace the Kumon bill.

I am of course assuming that accountancy degree = good at and like math.

NannyNorthLlondon · 19/01/2010 13:11

Strix I live with my partener now and i just need more privacy.I know that the family will give me privacy(all of them at least try ), but living in with the family you dont really get your free weekend time unless you go out of the house.I know this on my skin, I used to have day off , but because dad was busy watching tv mum was still asking me "do you mind doing this, please?".So at the end of the day it was no private time for me!
If any time soon you were be looking to hire a nanny give me a buzz please
£350/week is for mothers help.

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Strix · 19/01/2010 12:59

And who in their right mind pays £350 per week for an au pair +???

Strix · 19/01/2010 12:51

NNN, every parent is different. I am forever reminding my 6 year old DD that girls can do math. So, I would love to have a female nanny who is good at math. I would not see it as a distration from your commitment to your job as a nanny.

I do agree with the live-in / live-out job. Most people who would hire you will do so because they need to save some money and are prepared to take on training you in exchange. And those peole will probably looking for a live-in nanny.

I have hired several entry-level nannies and I would probably interview you (if I was looking for a nanny which I currently am not).

I'm not really interested in the CRB since you aren't British. But, I believe I am in the minority in this view.

I've probably missed it somewhere below, but why do you not want a live-in position?

catepilarr · 19/01/2010 12:01

nannynorth, that was intended for wioaig.i certainly know what an ap or ap+ is, its her who seems to be in a muddle a bit.

NannyNorthLlondon · 19/01/2010 11:50

Nannynick i can learn for the driving license, I have that in plan and I wasnt actually sure wich one to prioritise:the diploma or the drving license.thank you for the advice once again.
catepilarr the definition of au pair plus is :
Au Pairs Plus
(30-35 Hours per week. EU residents only)

They carry out the same duties as regular Au Pairs, but work for up to 35 hours per week. They must receive a minimum of £70-80 pocket money per week and every extra hour should be paid at £3.50 minumum. They should also be allowed time off to attend an English Language Course.

Sometimes the normal 5 hours a day or 25 hours may not be enough for a busy family with two working parents. Should this be the case, for example in school holidays or even at other times, you may wish to consider an AU PAIR PLUS. However please note that an Au Pair Plus may not have sole charge of children under the age of 2 years if both parents work outside the home. Furthermore only limited sole charge is permissable for children between the ages of 2 and 3 years. If both parents go out to work, a Mothers Help or a Nanny is the appropriate choice for younger children & babies.

Of course its not a full time job,and most of the times is live-in.I went through that period where I was in search of cultural exchange almost 4 years ago and still I didnt receive just pocket money

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NannyNorthLlondon · 19/01/2010 11:38

Sumersoon the accountancy qualification will be just that, a qualification , a diploma.If I will find a nanny PA position it might help me.I study for it just once a month a few hours , so it doesnt take to much off my time , plus for me its like this:what I do in my spare time it doesnt matter for my employer!It matters what I do at work, how I spend the time with the children and looking after the house(in a housekeeping position).
I also said that I want to do the DHC , did anyone notice that?
I can take references from teachers,from the manager of the Orphanage , but those references dont count in Uk!
I am just 22, so it`s not to much to check about me,except high school diploma,a police check ,test my knowledge..I havent done anything except studying and volunteering

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catepilarr · 19/01/2010 09:10

aupair plus is certainly not a full time job and def does not pay 350 a week as you mentioned previously.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 18/01/2010 21:18

Hey - I didnt say au pair - I said au pair plus which is quite a different thing - fulltime, more responsibility, more money. Worth investigating before you dismiss it because it starts with the word au pair. It's not nec the same as mothers help, as it often includes sole charge. And better to target a job you can get, and build your experience on your chosen career path, than not be working.

Totally right re money/tax etc! You dont want to work for someone who isnt straight in their dealings with you.

nannynick · 18/01/2010 20:50

Just a quicky as I'm at choir, on a break.
I feel the not driving is an issue, could you learn? You have the ICP so I would say learn to drive before doing more childcare courses.
I lived in London in 70's and 80's and I recall my parents driving me around a lot, either that or walking. We used to drive to the local park - Greenwich, lived in Blackheath, so it was only a couple of miles.

NannyNorthLlondon · 18/01/2010 20:30

catepilarr thank you for encouraging me,is nice to see I am not the only one who thinks Au pair is not the only position I can get

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Summersoon · 18/01/2010 20:28

I interview very carefully and if I was interviewing you, I would ask a lot of questions about what she was doing before she came to this country. I think that I would prefer an explanation saying studying for accountancy because childcare and teaching pays next to nothing in Romania (and everybody knows that Romania is still a very poor country). I would also accept that once you have invested time in something, you finish it; in fact, I think that I would be quite impressed by that. I think that you just need to be really careful to emphasize your circumstances in Romania at the time and your determination to stick with something once started. I would also ask you what you intended to do once you had the accountancy qualification and how much time your were spending on it.
Finally, if I was interviewing you, I could imagine that the accountancy would bother me less than the fact that I would not be able to do a background check on your time in Romania. I can't remember how long you said you have been in the UK, but if it is less than about 5 or 7 years, is there any possibility that you could get references from people in Romania (e.g. a teacher or somebody in a respectable position)?
Also, assuming that you are still on good terms with the families you left, you might call them and tell them of your difficulties and ask them how you can present yourself more successfully - after all they know you! You cannot, in my view, ask this directly, but you might, as a result, be able to gauge whether they are giving you ok references. And you could also ask them if they would kindly mention your name if they know of anybody who is looking for childcare - a personal recommendation like that would go a long way with me.

catepilarr · 18/01/2010 20:16

nannynorth, good luck with finding a job, i know it is not easy as some of the english are just so different in their views to us /i am also from so-called eastern europe/. you are certainly not a candidate for an aupair job, but with the market as it is you might need to accept a mothers help type of job rather then sole charge nanny type.

NannyNorthLlondon · 18/01/2010 19:53

I am not searching for top notch job,but I will not consider a job in wich the parents dont want to pay the taxes for me and they want to pay under the minimum wage.Not everyone is that picky as you are, but every parents wants what is best for their child.As I said in the previous threads I dont apply for a position that clearly states "mary poppins" or "super nanny".I only apply for positions that suit me,that want non driver etc.
Thank you for the advice

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NannyNorthLlondon · 18/01/2010 19:43

WorkingItOutAsIGo I wear jeans because they are comfortable,but there are many types of jeans,and you can accesorize them to look smart ,depends on the activity you do,the places you are going.I look after myself and my image ,I am a clean person

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NannyNorthLlondon · 18/01/2010 19:37

starberries I dont drive.I always aplly for jobs that involve caring for children aged between 8 months and 9 years.This is the age group I have experience with.I never ask for feedback from families , if they dont call me I just live it how it is.It was just one lady that called me because she really liked me,but she found somebody with litlle bit more experience.
Because i dont drive I dont apply for jobs that involve more than 50min-1h travelling

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WorkingItOutAsIGo · 18/01/2010 19:30

So, NLN, what you need to do is not mention the accountancy as it is distracting. Consider studying for a childcare qualification instead. Get your CRB etc. Focus on ones with smaller kids as it sounds like you cant drive as you have not said you can. You are unlikely to get a 'top notch' nanny job right now with your current experience so consider au pair plus jobs or nanny/housekeeper jobs. You mention you only wear jeans - are you smart enough for London jobs - I want my nanny to fit in with other nannies so she will make firends so dont need her too smart but certainly also not too scruffy?

Best of luck.

nannynick · 18/01/2010 18:45

Try to adapt the CV to each job, highlighting how you have cared for similar aged children, what outings you went on, activities you did, that kind of thing. Give examples of things you did with the children.

Do you drive, have a car? In a covering letter include details of how you would be getting to and from work. As a live-out nanny you need to be 100% reliable in getting to work on time, or at least convey the impression that you will always be reliable.