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Should I pay for carpet cleaning?

61 replies

PrairieOyster · 08/01/2010 14:13

My son is 3 years old and still has some potty training issues. Recently some of his poo fell on a carpet (well a large rug really) at his childminders which she then got cleaned at a cost of £120. She has now presented me with the cleaning bill.

Should I pay it completely, or say that it is part of the reasonable expenses that a childminder should expect when they join the profession, or pay something towards the cost as a goodwill gesture, say. Or what?

Any ideas?

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xoxcherylxox · 08/01/2010 18:27

was just refering to people talking about valuables

FabIsGoingToBeFabIn2010 · 08/01/2010 18:27

He hasn't disrespected her home. He had a toilet accident fgs.

TheFallenMadonna · 08/01/2010 18:24

A bit at the idea that "respecting other people's belongings" is going to have an effect on a potty-training child's accidents...

rainbowinthesky · 08/01/2010 18:22

I would be very at my childminder if I were asked this. How odd. I certainly wouldnt pay.

lisad123wantsherquoteinDM · 08/01/2010 18:21

No i wouldnt pay, she should have more sense than to leave a special rug where children and potties are, daff moo.
Tell her to claim on house insurance but tell her that you would think something like this would happen to her items as a CM, and therefore its not your problem. How do you know it was your child?? can she prove it? LOL

BlueKangerooWonders · 08/01/2010 18:15

is she registered? Just asking as I'd assume a registered childminder would have adequate house insurance to cover just such situations. I'd tell her to refer the matter to her insurance broker!

xoxcherylxox · 08/01/2010 18:15

i dont think she should be asking you to pay but then remember its her house so she may have brought her children up to respect her belongs and other peoples for an early age therefore is hoping the mindees are the same so she therefore leaves valuable things in her livingroom. personally i would just have wiped it and hope that it looked ok surely a parent wouldnt expect a perfect stain free, clean carpet in a childminder house although there is a difference in a slight mark and a completly dirty carpet

HSMM · 08/01/2010 17:33

Will you have to pay when he crayons on the wall, or breaks a shrub in the garden with his football? I think not. She should not have a precious item in the same room as the children.

FabIsGoingToBeFabIn2010 · 08/01/2010 17:22

Actually when I was a nanny my car did leak oil all over the boss' drive and while they were not happy - it had just been done - they didn't ask me to pay to clean it up but I did buy them a bottle of wine to say sorry. Also, when their phone broke in a lightening storm and I was on it they don't ask me to buy another one.

Hando · 08/01/2010 16:49

Cheeky bitch. I wouldn't pay, in fact I'd not have been able to stand there without laughing in disgust if she even asked me to pay, or come to an agreement. I'd have to give notice and find someone else as I couldn't bear to talk to someone who had treated me like this. If you pay then she's going to be thinking you're a mug and a pushover!

Like someone said, it's like the garage charging you for your car leaking oil on their floor. Crazy thinking.

Evpen if your child did it on purpose it's tough. Different if it were a teenager, but 3 yr olds do things like that. You pay her to be responsible for him, she choose to use her home as her workplace so has to suffer the cost of wear and tear.

Tori27 · 08/01/2010 16:33

How ridiculous! She chose to open her house up to children and therefore should have ensured that anything valuable was nowhere near your child - what if he sudden fell ill and was sick everywhere? This really is not your responsibility as you did not choose her decor! How horrible for you to experience this.

Most importantly, remember that your child is HER responsibility while in HER care (that's what you pay for).

I have considered childminding and have taken the initial course - I would never do this to a client!

Hope it gets resolved xxx

PrettyCandles · 08/01/2010 15:59

She should have insurance for this sort of thing, and if she doesn't want to pay the excess, then she needs to consider it as a reasonable expense.

Besides, it doesn't cost £120 to clean a rug, not unless it's soemthing special - in which case it shouldn't be out when the children are in.

BoysAreLikeDogs · 08/01/2010 15:58

blimey

no way should you pay

CM can put the cost through her expenses

Blondeshavemorefun · 08/01/2010 15:54

babywipes and vanish work well getting poo out of carpets

if ithe rug is dry clean only and exspenisve then shouldnt be on the floor where children play

tell her to take it off her tax bill/put in exspenses

agree if you pay now, what else you may be billed for

doggiesayswoof · 08/01/2010 15:50

Agree Laurie - if you do pay a token amount make it clear that it's a one off.

doggiesayswoof · 08/01/2010 15:49

lol at Dolly

LaurieFairyCake · 08/01/2010 15:46

I think its cheeky because cleaning up a wee bit of shite can be done with a squirt of 1001 and a cloth - it's quite clear her rug was dirty from use anyway - I would offer £10 towards it as a good will gesture and wonder aloud to her if she will be asking other parents for contributions.

And I would then say that i didn't expect to pay anything for rug cleaning any more and ask her to move the rug.

BigBadMummy · 08/01/2010 15:45

£120 for one carpet?!!! She could have replaced it for that.

She had guests over Christmas and wanted to get it cleaned for them.

A can of Vanish Carpet Cleaner is £5.99. If you feel she is justified in anything, give her that. Otherwise tell her to get stuffed would be my opinion.

FimbleHobbs · 08/01/2010 15:42

LOL 'some of his poo fell on a carpet' - we need more info - was it a genuine accident or was it more of a 'little darling smeared it all in on purpose and jumped up and down on it' sort of situation?

Mind you either way she should have been watching him. Sounds like a daft thing for a CM to have - with 2 DC I don't own a rug worth £120 and we have our own carpet cleaner now.

navyeyelasH · 08/01/2010 15:12

This is precisely the reason I have just bought a second hand rug for my playroom. I would not pay anything but say you are sorry it happened and gently suggest the rug is not in the same room as the mindees.

henryhuggins · 08/01/2010 15:06

and if you are a childminder regardless of your mindees ages, anything delicate should be out of the way. accidents happen - juice, coffee, mud, whatever. terribly unprofessional of her to ask you to contribute.

don't childminders want to be seen as professional?
it really doesn't have anything to do with their salaries.

Summersoon · 08/01/2010 15:04

Given how little childminders seem to be paid, I would personally offer to pay half.

Accidents happen and it is not reasonable to expect a CM to be able to prevent a 3-year old from having the occasional lapse. (If this was a 2-year old in the first week of training, I would have expected to move everything even remotely delicate out of "striking distance".)

Strix · 08/01/2010 15:03

If you pay this, what else might you be expected to pay? I would expect a childminder to cover her running costs in the hourly rate which I pay her. Although, this point could result in her raising her hourly rate to cover these things.

But, really, this would be like the garage charging you because your car leaked oil on the floor.

PrairieOyster · 08/01/2010 14:58

Yes, I have seen the bill. Unfortunately I didn't know anything about it until she told me about the cost. Looking again at her note she has asked that we come to some kind of arrangement, so I think that she maybe doesn't expect me to pay the whole cost.

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DollyMessiter · 08/01/2010 14:55

No, you should not have to pay.
Occupational hazard.

And £120?!
Did she get a group of angels to gently fan the poo from the carpet with their shimmering gossamer wings?

I'd be looking for a new childminder too, as it is unprofessional of her to make you feel embarrassed and responsible for something that is simply part and parcel of having children around.