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Boff needs chocolate. Nanny has just resigned.

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SnowyBoff · 03/12/2009 21:38

So folks, there we were being nice, supportive employers to someone who frankly with hindsight has a major attitude problem, and she's just resigned on us and leaves in a fortnight. I am sure Christmas is a brilliant time to look for a new one (not).

This nanny thing is so angst-ridden it's untrue. It also means we may have sacrificed another agency fee for a mere 10 weeks' work as well. And the kids will be really upset and go all funny on us for a bit because they will be so confused about everything.

I am not a happy Boff.

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Tavvy · 06/12/2009 22:55

Don't think I meet your requirements or else I'd apply. You need a driver I assume given that you've mentioned a car. I'm close to being licensed but not quite and wouldn't expect to drive somebody elses precious children having just passed anyway. I'm really sorry you've had such bad luck with nannies. Sadly I can believe a lot of what I read on here because whilst I see some fab nannies where I am I see more that are awful.
I try very hard to be a good nanny. It really makes me cross

SnowyBoff · 06/12/2009 21:49

Remember the other crappy nanny who failed to turn up in September was NNEB though, and ticked all the boxes in terms of having stayed with families a long time and so on.

It seems you can never know what you are getting until they arrive.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 06/12/2009 11:52

personally i think nneb is the way to go - old school darling

really sounds as if this girl just isnt suited to working with children - you do need common sense and what you are asking for is the norm for a nanny (i think)

wishing you lots of luck boffy - my ear is always here xx

frakkinaroundthechristmastree · 05/12/2009 23:17

Ah well TNBN every nanny is different - I love under about 18 months especially newborn newborn because the challenge of getting them into a good routine etc is irresistable! But I think I'm best when it's more about working with the parents and what suits them and getting baby to do that. I'm not so great with toddlers, okay-ish with preschoolers/early schoolies (but only if they're bright), love when they're middle/older primary school and pretty good with teenagers but for totally different reasons! I think I'm still young enough to be big-sisterish with them and stubborn enough to face them down and hold my ground.

A good nanny knows their strengths and plays to them.

Missus84 · 05/12/2009 23:00

I must say, every nanny I know is good and committed to their profession. I'm sorry you've had such bad luck SnowyBoff.

thenewbornnanny · 05/12/2009 22:52

What Nick said, I just find I enjoy and am better at looking after the 0-7 age range. Older children need a different skill and mindset, neither of which I really possess. So I look for positions with newborns and stay til they're at full time school if I can. Don't get me wrong, I adore my excharges, some of whom are well into their teens now, but I couldn't nanny for them any more.

SnowyBoff · 05/12/2009 18:44

Tbh having a live out do 50 hours a week would mean I have to prune my work hours even more and it would not be ideal. My employers are nice but I am not really regarded in the same way as before maternity leave, and I have to be careful not to look flaky or as though I zip off home all the time. I already work from home two days a week which is a bit much.

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nannynick · 05/12/2009 18:31

If the larger number of hours doesn't put people off then it doesn't matter does it. I was just wondering why there was a difference as it isn't as though a live-out nanny could leave until you were home from work.

frakkinaroundthechristmastree · 05/12/2009 18:20

I think they've dropped some components from the DCE - NNEB nannies I've met seem to have done a bit of everything but now you have to choose whether you do the SN bit or not etc. NVQ is different because it's much less theoretical and more practice based in one job so it doesn't have the breadth IYSWIM. Maybe you want a BTEC nanny? Or an EY graduate?

Boff I would really want to come and work at yours if you bring toys home!

SnowyBoff · 05/12/2009 18:10

Well everyone told me it was normal to have 50/60 hours a week respectively when I started desgining the job earlier in the year ... I think the idea with live-in hours being longer is that nannies have no commute (also bear in mind my commute is 3 hours a day, which is the reason for having a nanny). We interviewed lots of people so I am not sure the hours are actually putting anyone off. Could be wrong though, I suppose.

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nannynick · 05/12/2009 17:37

Why 20% more hours if it's live in? Wondering if a 12 hour day may put some applicants off, or are extra 10 hours a week due to babysitting being included?

I wonder what differences there are between the old NNEB and the NVQ/DCE now. When I did my NNEB it was at the time things were switching over, so it is a CACHE Diploma in Nursery Nursing (NNEB) which I wouldn't have thought differs that much from the current courses.

Shelley33 · 05/12/2009 17:12

I'm an NNEB nanny too, and tbh, your job sounds lovely, and you sound like very nice employers in not wanting weird macro biotic food stuff, and equally odd things for your dc's.

Fingers crossed you find a nice normal, (NNEB if possible!) happy, non workshy, sensible nanny.

We do exist!

SnowyBoff · 05/12/2009 17:11

I am very near Cambridge (15 mins by car, 20 mins by bike from historic centre), in a large village with lots of amenities, shops, restaurants, pubs and so on. I have three DSs that need looking after (sole charge), age 11y, 8y and 8 months. The job is 50 hours a week live out or 60 hours a week live in. Natty little red nanny car and massive light and bright double bedroom with seating area provided, share bathroom with baby and guests. £300 pw net live-in or £350 pw net live out. Nursery duties only (breakfast, school run, baby care during the day, homework and music practice supervision, kids' tea with a bit extra cooked for us, kids laundry, about once a week there is also a post office or dry cleaner run (or similar, can be done whilst taking baby for a walk in the pushchair). We have a cleaner who comes twice a week (but nanny would be cleaning kids rooms and bathrooms). Email is boffinmum at hotmail dot co dot uk.

Only bright, interested people who really like nannying need apply!

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SnowyBoff · 05/12/2009 16:46

Well bring back the NNEB then, that's all I can say.

I am wondering what made it so different from NVQ DCEs though?

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nannynick · 05/12/2009 16:41

ssd - some of us nannies feel we are better at caring for younger children than older children. Perhaps that is what TNBN means. Nannying for a teenager is going to be quite different to nannying for a toddler.

drinkyourmilk · 05/12/2009 16:32

Which area are you in Boff? There may be nannies looking for work on here

Millarkie · 05/12/2009 15:20

Oh heck Boff - wishing you all the best in finding a replacement.

ssd · 05/12/2009 15:03

boff, I agree with your outlook!

I'm an NNEB trained nanny and I know what you mean

ssd · 05/12/2009 15:00

thenewbornnanny

what do you meaN YOU DON'T DO OLDER KIDS? (CAPS ON ERROr)

thenewbornnanny · 05/12/2009 14:47

"But I am coming to the conclusion that most people who work in childcare are actually not very interested in it at all.:

that's a very depressing observation to make. And you sound like a fantastic employer, considerate, reasonable, good sense of humour and common sense. I don't "do" older kids otherwise I would love to work for someone like you who just wants a nanny who loves her job and does it well.

SnowyBoff · 05/12/2009 14:26

Frakkin, she does have a very good rapport with young children, so that's probably how she got in. But for me that is not the only requirement - you have to attend to their care in a very conscientious way if they are to be healthy and happy in the medium term. This means different things to different people, but I would say for the record that I do have four children, have been around the block a bit, and most of what I expect is the kind of mainstream stuff you see being done everywhere. In other words, I am not getting her to starch Christian Dior frilly baby pants, rock the baby for 45 minutes before every nap, or hunt down obscure Eastern tofu derivatives to feed them with. I just want the kids cleaned up now and then, wrapped up warm if they go out, encouraged to do homework and to see their friends, and fed something sensible and traditional when the occasion demands. Seriously, how hard can that be? The other (excellent) nanny from the place we don't mention thought this was an ideal first job for someone, so we were very hopeful. But that nanny was from the NNEB era and perhaps things were different then.

I think my nanny doesn't know how lucky she is. I had a friend who had a Princess Christian nanny for her PFB and she made her do all these peculiar macrobiotic-type foods, and spend half her life taking said PFB to a consultant paediatrician every time she got a sniffle, and got the nanny to supervise PFB like a hawk at every single kids' birthday party in case she ate a Malteser - there is none of that nonsense here.

But I am coming to the conclusion that most people who work in childcare are actually not very interested in it at all.

One sad thing is that I brought loads of really nice demonstration Froebel and Steiner equipment home from work the other day, to show her. I thought she'd really be interested and enjoy looking at them and testing the toys out - I worked as a nursery nurse for a couple of years in my early twenties when I was training as a teacher, and I loved doing all that stuff. However she just looked at it and didn't ask any questions or anything. I found it where I had left it the next day. No interest whatsoever. I think that says it all.

Perhaps one of the factors is that she is simply not very clever.

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frakkinaroundthechristmastree · 05/12/2009 01:38

She fed your child food off the floor?!

Am actually gobsmacked at some of the stuff here. I really, really hope you find someone soon and that they sign the contract, stick to the contract and are not lazy mares with attitude problems and no idea how to look after children who have wasted vast sums of money supposedly being trained to do just that. How did she get in?! Isn't it horrendously competitive?

Blondeshavemorefun · 04/12/2009 22:44

great minds boffy

SnowyBoff · 04/12/2009 22:43

Blondes, funnily enough that was the first thing I said to DH.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 04/12/2009 22:33

you dont need to get her a christmas pressie/give bonus

always look on the bright side of life,la la, la la, la la la la la la