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Boff needs chocolate. Nanny has just resigned.

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SnowyBoff · 03/12/2009 21:38

So folks, there we were being nice, supportive employers to someone who frankly with hindsight has a major attitude problem, and she's just resigned on us and leaves in a fortnight. I am sure Christmas is a brilliant time to look for a new one (not).

This nanny thing is so angst-ridden it's untrue. It also means we may have sacrificed another agency fee for a mere 10 weeks' work as well. And the kids will be really upset and go all funny on us for a bit because they will be so confused about everything.

I am not a happy Boff.

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StillSquiffy · 11/12/2009 19:11

Hey Boffin.

Sounds like a nightmare year. Check out my thread ref Chris The Swede, the AP going spare.

Stuff you should think about: (1) He's a bloke (but better than any other AP I have had) (2) He has AP'd for me (3YO and 6YO) and a family in the states (3 kids, sub-teen but school age), but he has no baby experience. (3) He is not quite nanny standard (but not far off). Example: he happily does reading practice with my son, but whereas - for example - my nanny would notice if my son was tired and would adjust the practice into 3 short bursts or something, Chris wouldn't. Nothing major, but he sometimes needs to be told all the little tricks. Oh, and (4) He is totally bowled over by the UK but I have no idea if he would stay for more than another 6-9 months - his university degree is on hold for the moment but he hasn't sorted out his long term plans (that, by the way, is the only irritating thing about him - he is unable to make up his mind on 'decisions', and he dithers - really odd to see it in a bloke)

If I were in your position and knowing him as I do, would I employ him to do the full 60 hours with the baby during the day? No, but I would definately hire him and have him drop off the baby at a good nursery instead, and would take the cost of that out of the salary I offered him. I know my kids are safe with him, and I know they have fun with him and I know he really cares for them. And it is great when the school phone up to say that DS is ill or something and I know that if I phone him he will drop everything and head over. And when these things happen, he even (you won't believe me) refuses extra money

check out my thread and cat if you are interested...

SnowyBoff · 11/12/2009 15:18

BTW my housekeeper is good at the necessary espionage thing and managed to be discreet and informative at the same time. She refers to our nanny as 'the girl', never using her name. This tells us quite a lot of what we need to know.

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SnowyBoff · 11/12/2009 15:16

I think the free gym thing really dates from the early to mid 1990s, when gyms were relatively expensive and had steep upfront membership fees, but the Harbour Club (and latterly Next Generation etc) had a family membership and you just paid an extra £10-£20 pcm for a nanny on top of your usual membership so she could take your DCs along to things and use the facilities while they were at judo class or whatever. It's not really usual around here to sign someone up for a gym as a standalone thing any more, and I am a bit curious as to why agencies keep listing it as a perk (along with mobile phones etc). It seems a bit random, really, and would incur a tax liability.

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SnowyBoff · 11/12/2009 15:11

I think I did another 'Boff in the slough of childcare despond' thread at the time, but basically it was my EDD, but nonetheless I was meeting the Head of DS2's new school with DS2 to discuss him starting there in two weeks' time, and AP was supposed to wave DS1 off to school. That was all she had to do.

Except he nagged her to get to go to school with him on the tandem that DS2 usually used with her, and she gave in, and then he refused to wear a helmet, and she didn't want to be disliked so gave in again. She then cycled him to school on the wrong side of the road and a car pulled out, not expecting to see a bike going the opposite way to what the Highway Code would expect, and the car caught the wheel, which means they both came off and DS1 took the brunt of the fall on his arm. She then took him to school (yes, really!) and left him there. His arm started swelling up big time and school phoned me to ask me to come and get him and take him to A and E. I then went into early labour. AP then phoned me and bleated excuses down the phone telling me how terrible she felt and asking if she could come to the hospital with us as she felt so bad about it and did not want to sit alone at home. I told her how she felt was of no interest to me at all and all I cared about was getting my son to A and E and hoping he had not bumped his head badly. I then went to A and E and was roundly told off by the consultant who then realised I had had nothing to do with this, so she told DS1 off instead (quite rightly). He was bloody lucky it had only been his arm that was banged, and we all knew that. He was kept under observation for a bit but was OK and had got off lightly. My labour then stopped, luckily.

So it's been a bit of a bad year!

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Blondeshavemorefun · 11/12/2009 13:16

see you have redited again- i think it tells all you need - ages, hours, wages,car

nannies in my area dont get free gym etc - just a good wage and a nice family is all we ask

frakkinaroundthechristmastree · 11/12/2009 11:57

I've noseyed on both your ads and would respond to either of them

AtheneNoctua · 11/12/2009 11:48

I can't find your ad, Boff. I want to be nosey.

After you nanny has gone, people will come talk to you who wouldn't while she was still there and tell you what they really think of her.

I had a very enlightening (more like a confirmation of what I already knew really) conversation with another family's nanny at the school gate yesterday. This nanny is friends with my current nanny and she went on and on to tell me how my last nanny was not really suited to be a nanny. Some of the stuff I knew but had some doubts. But this nanny confirmed my suspicions. She wasn't all bad, but there a couple of points where she really fell over.

Anyway, when you have these conversations, you wil be so glad she is gone. It really is a sense of relief.

frakkinaroundthechristmastree · 11/12/2009 11:40

cackles evilly I would do the same in your shoes. You don't want her to stay though - she sounds horrid and unprofessional and more stress than she's worth.

I could offer her a nice demanding lady I interviewed with who also fired a nanny from the place we don't mention for not being up to scratch? She had an interesting list of requirements and she's looking (again) according to the agency that sent me there. But, as others have pointed out, without the refs she probably won't be getting another job as a nanny.

AtheneNoctua · 11/12/2009 11:38

She hospitalised DS1????????

SnowyBoff · 11/12/2009 11:30

I may not deserve it, but I keep getting it.

Ironically nanny just took delivery of parcel of Xmas goodies sent by my best ever AP to the boys. I took pleasure in saying airily, "x was a lovely AP, she was with us ages, gosh is it really five years ago, she still comes and stays every year you know, she was such a good AP, lovely girl".

DH would say it's like talking about pevious boyfriends, but I reckon that rubbed in the fact we are very civilised and nice and she's chucking something valuable away.

Hoep she gets a job with a pop star next and then she'll really find out what hard work it.

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frakkinaroundthechristmastree · 11/12/2009 11:26

So statistically you have get lucky this time, no? I really really hope you do because you don't deserve the treatment the others have been giving you.

That's so sad about your DSs especially as it's not been their fault at all.

SnowyBoff · 11/12/2009 11:20

Frannikin, I will believe that when I see it, the staying longer than five minutes thing, I mean. This year we've had:

AP - five months, until she ended up hospitalising DS1 on my due date and got the sack.
Nanny 1 - Never showed up.
Temp Nanny - three weeks, as we couldn't afford much more than that. She was great though.
Nanny 2 - 10 weeks.

Haven't told the kids yet. There will be tears and dismay (I have already caught DS1 muttering to DS2 in the kitchen one day, 'be really good otherwise this one will leave as well', and I must state for the record that my lads are extremely considerate and polite and are not chasing these nannies off).

I think some people forget these are families' lives they are rampaging through - it more than just a job for a faceless organisation.

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SnowyBoff · 11/12/2009 11:14

Have put a very traditional one up on Gumtree as well. Reminds me of one of the references I got for a nanny from the Place We Don't Name Because They Are Blameless In All This:

" xxxx was a lovely nanny who made little meals for our grandson and took him for walks around our estate".

Well I reckon it wasn't a high rise in Peckham they were talking about, do you?

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frakkinaroundthechristmastree · 11/12/2009 11:03

This one will stay longer than 5 minutes. Or I shall get DH to accidentally misdirect a missile to her house.

I like that ad much better - tells me everything I need to know adn shows that you ahve a sense of humour too!

SnowyBoff · 11/12/2009 10:52

Not signing any nannies up for gyms as they only stay 5 minutes anyway ...

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SnowyBoff · 11/12/2009 10:50

Is this better, everyone? The location is on Netmum and Gumtree.

Cheerful, energetic family with two housetrained boys (12y, 8y) and one chirpy, dimply baby (8 months) seeks lovely nanny to add to the mix. Must be good at Lego, art, Wii fit, feeding us homemade lasagne and baking cakes. Saxophone, cycling and swimming skills very welcome. Driver preferred - mean red boy transporting machine provided. Hours are just long enough to enjoy us, just short enough to let you recover for the next Guitar Hero challenge. You can live in if you like - there's a huge, light and bright double bedroom with TV and sitting area, and live in hours would be 7.30-7.30 Monday to Friday for £300 pwn. If you want to live out it's 50 hours a week Monday to Friday and £350 pwn. Mum says our nanny must be fully qualified (NNEB or NVQ DCE) and experienced, with paediatric first aid certificate and OFSTED registered, or near to being so, as she has lots of childcare vouchers sitting there ready to be used. January 2010 start, so if you're interested, send mum and dad your CV!

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gizzy1973 · 10/12/2009 22:01

I would reply to your ad if i lived nearer and wanted 5 days a week - much prefer ads like that as you know someone has a sense of humour

frakkinaroundthechristmastree · 10/12/2009 21:30

I tend not to reply to ads like that, although they make me smile.

If you added more businesslike specifics I might reconsider!

Why not run both ads simultaneously on Gumtree etc? Different ads will attract different nannies and both reflect the job in different ways.

AtheneNoctua · 10/12/2009 17:23

Whilst I do think your ad is funny and if I was a nanny I would definitely apply... erm, there not a lot in the ad that says what is in it for me. I would want a few more specifics, like hours, children's ages, accommodation, general location. And what are the perks? Gym membership? More nannies / au pairs at the school gate? Entice me!

(or go look at Squiffy's post about her spare au pair... not sure if he is nanny material though)

SnowyBoff · 10/12/2009 17:13

Have changed all my ads now to make them like this one.

I hadn't realised you were allowed to be funny in nanny ads!

Not getting many responses to ads though. Just from one or two disillusioned nursery workers who want out.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 10/12/2009 14:11

just perfect boffy!!!

i would def reply to an ad like that as means family has a sense of humour - which is good

Simplyme · 10/12/2009 10:10

Perfect - if I wasn't so extremely happy where I am then I'd apply

nbee84 · 09/12/2009 21:15

LOL - love it

SnowyBoff · 09/12/2009 20:58

emotionally drained family
bankrupted by agency fees family
family at end of tether

Cheerful, energetic family with two housetrained boys and one chirpy dimply baby seeks lovely nanny to add to the mix. Must be good at Lego, Wii fit, feeding us homemade lasagne and baking cakes. Saxophone, cycling and swimming skills very welcome. Driver preferred - mean red boy transporting machine provided. Hours are just long enough to enjoy us, just short enough to let you recover for the next Guitar Hero challenge.

Is that better?

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Blondeshavemorefun · 08/12/2009 15:55

got your email about ad, but only managed to look at it - yes it def says what you want/need

maybe edit slightly and see what response you get, obv you dont want nutters but might get more replys if just has basic info about being 5days/car to use and ages of children plus live in/out

still think you should make nanny pay/deduct from wages

simply me - pmsl