after school/holiday nanny - hourly rate?

as a nanny who works a couple of days after school, I have found it extremely difficult to get a second job that allows you to finish at 3ish and have school holidays off. You might find it tricky finding a nanny willing to do these hours. The going rate in North London is around £8.50 net per hour.

Hi all. I'm based in Glasgow and am hoping to get my little boy's granny to look after him in our home for two days per week. We'd like to pay her the equivalent of a child-minder / au pair / nanny, but not sure what to offer her. Any ideas?

Thanks.

I'm a nanny myself currently only do 5 1/2 hours a day, going rate for me is £10phr net then £7phr in the holidays, i'm in surrey.If the children are ill then i'm very flexible and can cover goes with part of the job that you expect.
There are plenty of part-time nannies out there,many willing to work full-time in the holidays,but with their own child maybe something to consider?

Thanks for the suggestions bluebear and vix1.

I've used agencies before, but not Simply Childcare, so will get in touch to see what they have to offer.

Anyone had any recent experiences of After School Nannies?

I know some people also use Gum Tree, but I am leery of dozens of applications from unsuitable types - and quite honestly have felt happy to have an agency put forward suitable candidates once they have checked references, done police checks etc.

I am fine with nanny with her own child, but in the past, I have had difficulty with the perception from nannies that it's too far to travel (live in London zone 1) - or, at least they think it is. Many told the agency they didn't even want to come for an interview when they realised it was a train journey into town - and then it's also difficult for when I want an evening babysitter (usually once a week, but still not easy IME) as nanny mums understandably want to get their children home to bed.

As far as a nannyshare, I don't know anyone who does it (most of my acquaintances seem to hire housekeepers who do childcare as/when needed and that's not what I'm looking for), but it must exist in these parts....just that I haven't come across it.

Still, thanks for these suggestions and I will pursue various options. And to think that 24 hours ago I was looking forward to a long, relaxing summer break followed by an easy transition into the school year.....

Im a Nanny myself, some Nannies would find it hard to get a job during the day with a seperate family, as when one child is ill or there are hollidays it gets confusing! (i used to do it)
But if you got a nannyshare it could work, cuz you could sort this out with nanny and other family.
Also, if you didnt want to share, then you could advertise for a Nanny who has their own child/children as it would prob. be an ideal job for them. I understand that some Nannies who have children find it hard to get work

I made the mistake of starting at the bottom of this thread and couldn't believe how little people were paying their nannies

Have you thought of trying to find someone to share a nanny with Earlybird? (if they have a baby/toddler and need nanny during the day, then you share the cost of the after school and holiday pay) - I've used sharingcare (there's an ad on mumsnet somewhere) and now share my nanny.
If you are in the M25 area I've heard that 'simply childcare' is a good place to look for after-school nannies, but I've also heard that they are £10net per hour.

Reviving this thread because as of this afternoon, I will be looking for an after school nanny a few days per week, coupled with some evening babysitting and possibly the option of extra daytime hours during half terms. Am I asking the impossible?

Bossykate - how did you resolve your situation? Did you use an agency, and if so, what were your good/bad experiences? Anyone else have any good suggestions for me?

BK - of course you must do what you think is right for your own children - I'll put my sticky beak away now

I'm with you BK. At the moment ds has a full time nanny but at about 18 months we plan to start him at nursery as I think he'll be ready for more regular interaction and I'd prefer him to have a chance to form more lasting relationships - dd still has lots of friends from her nursery.
We originally employed our nanny as an after school carer for dd then employed her full time because we liked her and she wanted the stability. We found her through an ad on gumtree and we got loads of replies (about 30 in a couple of days). When she was part time we paid £8 per hour cash in hand. Now she gets a monthly salary.

BK - we pay all holidays at the composite rate. Works a bit in her favour as most holidays are taken in full time weeks (which suits us).

Still give her 4 weeks paid holidays though, 2 at her choice 2 at ours and then give her the three days between Christmas and New Year off in addition to that.

If we're on holiday but she is working then she does some tidying/spring cleaning type work!

I know I'm being a sticky beak, and can see why you would like your DD in nursery, but doesn't it work out quite a bit cheaper to just get a full time nanny? You can always make sure that nanny takes her to lots of toddler groups so that she gets lots of interaction with other children??

I'm in Glasgow and I charge £2.50 per hour for all hours.

I had an after school nanny for about a year and paid her £7 per hour & the use of my car. She wasn't qualified, just had lots of childcare experience and was an angel as far as I was concerned. I live in a fairly un-glam South West London borough & there are lots of childcarers available here - possibly why the rate is a bit lower. I wasn't trying to be mean, it was what she asked for.

If you find a student or are only after a few hours you could probably pay cash in hand anyway unless you needed to declare it

We have an after-school nanny who I found on the Gumtree. She is a post-graduate law student and so is able to cover school holidays as well as 3.30pm - 6pm term-time. TBH I think I overpay her at £8.50 net an hour (£75 per full day if a school holiday), given that she doesn't have extensive nannying experience. I am treating her as an employee for tax purposes. If the weekly pay is less than a certain amount you do not have to pay tax / NIC on their behalf - the Inland Revenue new employer phoneline was helpful in this respect, although we are over the threshold. The downside with using a student is that they are unlikely to stay forever, although it depends on the individual of course.

BK - I found that Afterschoolnannies were pretty useless actually and wanted to charge a pretty heafty fee!

In the end we found ours through simply childcare and we had several applicants all desperate for the job!

Because of that we were able to get exactly what we were looking for rather than fit in with what an agency views as being the norm. Indeed whilst the agency were able to refer a few people for the afterschool term time care, they found no-one that could also do full time in the holidays!

I would certaily recommend that you try Simply Childcare first, as it is an extremely cheap way of finding someone!

Yep, that's what I've got DD1 down for. It looks a bit much when she starts, but knowing DD1 she'll be running the place by the time she's six.