So, my neighbour, a childmidner.

As far as Im aware, my insurance covers me for NO MORE than 10 mindies.

Sally x

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plimple - sadly the rules are that over 8s are not included in ratio.....my insurance covers me for 16 over 8s plus my normal 6 under 8 - yeah I know amazing isn't it?!!

As for OP - I'm not sure what you CAN do at this stage. Agree with the others - absolutely APPALLING behaviour - think you need to record these incidences and write down diary (same as others have said....)

Another thing that you could try is speaking to environmental health about noise complaint and then they will come and set up recording equipment for you so then its not you personally doing the recording its EH and maybe you'll feel less bad about that?....not sure how the law is with neighbours recording neighbours antics.....

What happened? If it came to her word against yours you can still have her for overminding. She's only allowed 6 children including her own (unless she has an unusual variation)

and me !

Yes please I was wondering the same thing.

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What's happened then? I've been watching this post to find out, have you done anything yet?

Saltire this woman is horrid!

Poor bill. I would contact school and ask them that they call Bill's mum for you and pass on you number. I would talk to the HT about it. I would approach this via the child and his mum first, then Ofsted. If this child knows you heard, and that he was not in the wrong, but the cm, he may then open up and tell mum what happened, backing up your account. Is she still registered then, or working unregistered and that's why in her logic that she is just taking older children so less on the radar?

I wouldn't use the note in bag as you live near this woman and she has already in the past intimadated you and your dcs.

How horrible. How about taking a copy of the note you have just written popping it into an envelope with another letter saying you overheard this, you found it distressing, you thought as a mum she'd want to know but you leave it up to her to decide whats best. give her your tel no if she wants to talk. label the envelope Bills mum and ask the teacher to put it in his book bag.

Saltire did you used to be a childminder?

how horrible poor poor bill, i would ask (if he is still at school today) for a note with your phone number on to be passed to bills parents through school

Tell the parent, he's old enough to give his version of events plus with your side of the story she wont be able to deny it.

Please call Ofsted and SS, children should not be subject to that kind of treatment from an adult. Parents are trusting her with their children and deserve to know whats actually going on.

This is shocking

Write down every instance - date and time... report her PLEASE!!!!

I hate to be the one to say it, but it's your word against hers at the moment. Write down what happened in detail and report it, however, if they choose not to do anything about it (I hope to the gods that they do do something about it!), at least you have a detailed written record of it and can use that record should anything like this ever happen again (which it sounds like it will!)

Remember, most mobile phones have a 'voice record facility' for at least 60 minutes.
That woman should be struck off! You need to let the parents know. Go to the teacher and say that you MUST speak to Bill's mum.
I'm sure the mum will want to listen to you.
It will then be in her court.
Well done, for doing something about it, there needs to be more concerned neighbours like yourself.

Bloody hell. I hope you called OFSTED. That is appalling behaviour!

Saltire - Did you phone OFSTED?

Ring social services
Ring school and explain you need to contact Bill's Mum and tell them why.
What a nasty woman

Is Bill friendly enough with your DS to invite him over for a playdate?

This woman sounds HORRIBLE and needs reporting to OFSTED but I can see the problems with evidence.

you can not let this continue - it is abuse,mental and possibly phyical if she does smack/kick him

if bill is in your sons class, then maybe you can get him round for a play and chat to mum what you see/hear

surely you must have a class list of names and numbers?

if not then watch out of window/bribe your ds too and then when he sees bills mum, pop out for a chat with her

does the cm act the same to bills sister - surely she would stick up for him ?

and all this happened at 7.15am?

Has school broken up yet? If not could you put a note in Bills bookbag if he is in the same class as ds asking mum to call you (like a playdate in case cm sees)

In fact could you not go into school and tell them?

OMG thats awful, I would write down everything and make a complaint to ofsted.But don't spy on her you could find that would backfire and also drive you nuts. Someone must know the childs parents in which case I would tell them. If she only minds older children now she may well not be on the voluntary register in which case she could slip through the net. If you are really concerned I would ring social services at least it is then recorded. Surely the older child would be able to say something unless its a friend of his mothers and then it may be worth speaking to the school if its still open.

This is a very distressing post. I have read a couple of others about this CM that you have put on here before, what I would do is try to record (on a machine, tape recorder) what is being said, shouted or threatened whether this is ethical or not I wouldn't particually care in this instance as if what you say is true this CM is abusing a mindee, what you also need to do is sit down and write a record as accurate as you can of exactly what you heard and any sounds that occured also, note down names of other mindees if you heard her say them and also specific times. This info is essential to establish what happened as ofsted / ss will have your account and check her records and register to ensure they were indeed present at the time of the alleged incident, older children may well be interviewed by SS to also establish what happened. I would be surprised if a child of this age didn't tell it's parents what is going on. I would approach the authorities in the first instance, ss have 24 / 7 contact lines if they deam the incident to be sufficiently serious they will act asap in effect safeguarding these mindees, I wouldn't try to contact parents remember you have to live their and if you contact ss they will act very quickly and interventions will be made professionally and you will be out of the loop.

It must be very hard for you to have to witness these events it must be so tempting not to go round and say something I don't know if I could have heard that and not reacted to this CM.

Personally I would try to catch the mother when she picks the children up - and let her know what your heard. Bill is old enough to recount accurately what went on also. If he is in your DS's class, the CM should get suspicious.

Bill can't spend the whole summer with this cow.

Its very easy for us to tell you what to do, I know in your shoes I would be less keen to confront what is clearly an angry lady.

You do need to contact Ofstead straight away, I'm sure they will be glad that you reported it.