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Nanny playing radio loud during day

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thehuntress · 01/07/2009 10:45

I want to know if my DH is being unreasonable. Our nanny is generally great with DD (2.6 years old). The issue is that he has come home two times recently while she was feeding her in the kitchen to find pop music blaring loudly on the radio. He doesn't think that our daughter should be listening to pop music on the radio at her age, particularly because of the DJ chatter which is usually mindless.

I don't feel as strongly about it, but think the music shouldn't be too loud as I generally want the nanny to be chatting, interacting with DD during dinner.

I think my DH's dislike also stems from the fact that he doesn't like pop music himself.

Do you think nanny would think we are overreacting and being strange if we ask her to not listen to the radio with DD around? That's really what we want, but I don't want to make nanny unhappy as in the whole scheme of things this is probably a small issue.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 02/07/2009 14:16

banning one programme wouldnt bother me, but bannning all tv/radio would iyswim

haveto say i havent seen max and ruby - but might watch it to see what it is like

we like back yardigans, wonder pets and ben 10

AtheneNoctua · 02/07/2009 14:09

Max and Ruby belongs in the 1950s where women (Ruby) cooked and looked pretty and took care of the men (Max). And it was okay for boys to be mischievous and girls to clean up after them.

This is not something I am prepared to expose my young daughter to. DD is now and DS is 4 and I gave into MAx and Ruby about a year ago. They both prefer Dinosaur King now.

I didn't mind DS watching Max and Ruby as much as I minded DD watching it.

I know, I know. You will all say Max and Ruby is a very nice show about a loving sister with a cute little brother. But, the messages are way too victorian for me.

Let Ruby be mischeivous and Max clean up after her and I'll get over it. For now, Max and Ruby is a horrible show and it should be banned from the airwaves.

Tanith · 02/07/2009 14:03

My mum says she used to have pop music stations on the radio all the time when we were kids. It wasn't so much the music, although her taste in music is much more up to date than mine. It was to hear an adult voice speaking on the radio and it didn't matter how inane he was, so long as he said something.

I'm assuming that nannies often don't get to hear that adult voice that reminds them there is life out there apart from their charges. In an office (since we're talking about offices), you would expect to have coffee and a chat with work collegues at some point in your working day. This is probably the nanny's alternative.

For what it's worth, my mum has continued to adore pop music and knows all the latest bands. Me? Haven't a clue! I listen to classical music, so it certainly hasn't corrupted me!

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/07/2009 13:53

my comment def wasnt meant as malicious just that i found it strange that you would adjust your music tastes

for example i LOVE james blunt, where dh doesnt, and will piss and moan when its on, but if he said dont play it, i wouldnt listen to him

i am entrigued - what job do you do huntress? one that doesnt allow you to speak to other people/pop out in your lunch hour?

my gripe with what you originally wrote

"Do you think nanny would think we are overreacting and being strange if we ask her to not listen to the radio with DD around? That's really what we want"

yes i wouldnt be happy to not be allowed to have the radio on, but i would be happy to change to a more child friendly station

as i first said we do have kiddi channel on the radio, but often 3&6yr ask "for your radio station, but not mummys as its boring and no songs"

yes some get more holiday, i do, but many i know get their stated amount and one even had to pay back a day, even though the mb was about and off work, and others still have to go in and clean/tidy playrooms/cook etc

yes i do eat at work and eat their food, and mb asks if i want anything to either put on list or just buy out of kitty

remember many also dont get ANY time to go and buy a sandwich without children or to eat it in peace, though again im lucky and my younger 2 sleep in the afternoon

so guess a perk is being able to use mb lappy and check emails, mn etc, though sure many/most of the working mums on here also do the same, but at their work

"Our nanny looks after DD, the most important thing in the world to me"

this i like and hope you tell your nanny sometimes that you are happy with her care,as words or a thank you go a long way - yes we are doing a job,but always nice to be appreicated

PixiNanny · 02/07/2009 13:49

You asked us for our opinions on whether it was unreasonable, and unlike the thread so far (which has understandably gone off track) I stuck to your request and answered stating why I thought it was unreasonable, and you're arguing it. If you didn't want answers then don't ask a question lol

I think some things are inappropriate for children too, and believe that censoring them is better. However, I also believe that exposing them to a wide variety of dfferent things is better, as then they can have a more well founded opinion, the kids I look after listen to a bit of everything and enjoy it because it was encouraged, I wish my parents encouraged it rather than having me listen to Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera as a kid, certainly an embarrassment now to not know the great rock legends as well as two children do

And, you haven't even answered our questions about whether this music was inappropriate for children (obscenities (crap spelling there), dodgy lyrics, etc), or stated which show she was listening too, so how can we make a more informed answer without you giving us more detail?

Thoguh, I must say, he'll have to get used to pop one day as your child will grow up and go through all the music phases! And little girls love pop.

tommypickles · 02/07/2009 13:43

AtheneNoctua - Please could you tell me the isuues with Max and Ruby? My son watches it very occasionally, but I have never really paid attention to it.

AtheneNoctua · 02/07/2009 12:37

Laquitar, that nanny comment was out of line, and certianly not helpful.

OP has come her for constructive advice about the radio. We all do it. The thread has meandered a bit. The comment about her DH was a tad off, but I think Blones intention was not malicious. We are past that now.

Nannies do have perks. Mine naps on the job. I'd definitely be fired for that behaviour. This is a fact and it is a perk not offered in many jobs. But, it doesn't mean I should go become a nanny. There are other aspects of the job which areno so appealing to me. (like memorising every fricken dinosaur who ever lived on planet Earth and when and how they died and how much blood there was and was it wet or dry blood)

Laquitar · 02/07/2009 12:00

OP why are you getting so defensive? When you start any thread, you get various responces. I cannot find one single attack towards you in this thread.

The comment about your dh (wasn't from me) was not malicious. You did say that you changed the music you listen since meeting your dh. So some posters would comment - with good intentions. We do it all the time. I have been challenged sometimes and i appreciated it.

Now i am going to say this and don't say that you are attacked . With all the perks you have taken the time to list you know what one could say, don't you? Yep, why don't you become a nanny?

AtheneNoctua · 02/07/2009 10:08

I have some funny quirks too. Max and Ruby was banned from my house for ages on grounds of sexual discrimination. Most people think I'm bonkers, but nonetheless our nannies have been contractually required to avoid it.

I also refuse school lunches on grounds of nutritional inferiority. Some people think I'm a tad obsessed with nutrition. But, it is important to me.

So, actually, without knowing what they were listening to (and obviously even if you told me the presenters' names I probably still wouldn't know who we are talking about!), I can't really judge unreasonableness (is that a word?).

thehuntress · 02/07/2009 09:03

I too find it annoying on mumsnet that I can ask a simple question (ie will the nanny think I'm weird if I ask her to turn off the radio) and I get comments about bowing to my DH's musical tastes. I wanted to respond to that one, so maybe I'm guilty too about going off subject. Especially about the nanny perks. But I think that the fact that I'm even stressing about telling my nanny to turn off the radio (something that my DH wants her to do and feels strongly about) demonstrates one perk of the job.

One of the perks of being a nanny is that you are treated like more than just an employee (and should be in my opinion). Our nanny looks after DD, the most important thing in the world to me. But comparing it to most jobs - if my boss wanted me to turn off the radio, she wouldn't stress - she was just tell me to do it. There is no sense of 'personal freedom' in my job. No downtime, no ability to pop out of the office to get things done during the day. No chats with my colleagues. I know not all jobs are like this, but alot are.

But I digress, other perks of being a nanny - nannies quite often get more statutory holiday each year (through no fault of nanny, usually family choice, but perk nonetheless). Nannies are usually provided food on the job. My nanny is taking my daughter to the zoo today, so I consider being able to enjoy the sunshine outside a perk. She is also going with another group of nannies, so presumably she will get some time to chat with friends (while watching the kiddies of course), which is a perk.

I don't think it is bad to say nannies have lots of perks compared to most jobs. I would assume it is part of the good things about being a nanny and I don't begrudge that one bit. What I do find is weird is that nannies get so upset by this statement. I wasn't saying it was an easy job. I wasn't saying they are overpaid. I was saying they have lots of perks, which presumably would make the bad parts of the job (ie weird parents asking them to turn off the radio) easier to bear.

And Pixinanny, I'm sorry but your statement about it being unreasonable for my DH to stop anybody listening to any type of music because of freedom of choice is ridiculous - he's not asking anybody, he is asking an employee while on the job. He could care less about what our nanny listens to in her own time, the point is that our 2 year old daughter is having to listen to it. This is something which DH should have a say on (and a right to say no to). We 'hinder' our child's access to a lot of cultural things (like music, certain TV shows, etc...) because it is inappropriate, not because we want her to be just like us. A lot of what we see in pop culture these days is geared towards young adults, and inappropriate for younger children. I don't want her growing up too fast, if you know what i mean.

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PixiNanny · 02/07/2009 00:41

Me and my two charges are always listening to music, I'm a rock/country rock person really, whilst they listen to anything and everything. We sing along and have fun, also, I think your DH would be entirely unreasonable to stop anybody listening to any type of music (unless offensive) because it's freedom of choice. You shouldn't hinder your child's access to a range of different music just because your DH doesn't like it :/

EyeballsandherSunburntNorks · 01/07/2009 23:56

tommy no one is comparing any job with any other, just talking about work in general. Calm down, you're not the op's DH are you?

nbee84 · 01/07/2009 22:23

And as limonchik says if I was asked not to have the radio on I would be but would respect their wishes and do as they say - after all their children, their rules and their money that pays my wages I would always respect what my bosses want me to do/not to do (within reason, of course).

nbee84 · 01/07/2009 22:20

When I pick the children up from nursery/school they have been known to tell me to stop talking to them so that they can listen to the radio

limonchik · 01/07/2009 21:53

If my boss told me to turn the radio off due to background noise/speech development I would go but of course do it - probably not worth leaving a job over and some parents do have these little "quirks".

Laquitar · 01/07/2009 21:49
Grin
Blondeshavemorefun · 01/07/2009 21:42

must be

and sometimes i have to flip through preset channels to find pink/beyonce or at moment fav group for 3yr boy is pussycat dolls

db says he is starting young!!!

Laquitar · 01/07/2009 21:34

Blondes how come your dcs ask you for the radio? Did they develope speech with all that music they ve been exposed to?

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/07/2009 21:28

yes im married and yes obv i compromise-what is his is mine and what is mine is mine

seriously though i would object to being told what i could listen to, if just a normal radio station, regarless if i am a nanny or at home by my dh

though i did say at work i do have kids station on as well as my music station, and often in car i put on kids music cd or a story tape and both 3 and 6yr ask for radio and then we all bop

what perks does a nanny get?

yes we may sit in garden/park in the sun a few times, but i also get soaked 9,12 and 3 many days

obv i love being a nanny, and love my family - been with them 3 years - so we must compliment each other

jonathan brand- russel ross - pmsl athene

Laquitar · 01/07/2009 21:14

Tommy no need to get so angry. It is just a debate. And nobody attacked her dh.

Laquitar · 01/07/2009 21:11

'Wow i never realised that this would produce so much debate'.

I love it when people start a thread - that contains few debatable points - and then say this. And also finish the second post by adding nicely 'i do think that some nannies don't appreciate that some of the perks they get compared to other jobs very well'. Now you will be surprised if people debate this?

tommypickles · 01/07/2009 21:11

At no point did I say that being a nanny was like an office job..........I was simply pointing out that if you have a job to do......you have a job to do, and if your employer has certain rules etc then they're to be followed.

Sometimes it's pointless saying anything on here because people choose to deliberatly miss read posts to start a row.

OP was should she ask nanny to lose the radio, that soon turned into a personal attack on her husband and how weak willed she must be to give up pop, oh what a loss, now people are saying I compared office work to nannying .

Even the OP'er has turned on me, the first person to defend her...........what a world!!

You all talk about choosing your battles..............

EllaAndTheDolphins · 01/07/2009 20:47

Anrdew?

AtheneNoctua · 01/07/2009 20:32

Is it Russell? I'm obviously out of touch. I mean the twonk who called Anrdew Sachs (and I do have that name right because I love Fawlty Towers).

LynetteScavo · 01/07/2009 20:24

Or you could just "loose" the radio.