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Nanny playing radio loud during day

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thehuntress · 01/07/2009 10:45

I want to know if my DH is being unreasonable. Our nanny is generally great with DD (2.6 years old). The issue is that he has come home two times recently while she was feeding her in the kitchen to find pop music blaring loudly on the radio. He doesn't think that our daughter should be listening to pop music on the radio at her age, particularly because of the DJ chatter which is usually mindless.

I don't feel as strongly about it, but think the music shouldn't be too loud as I generally want the nanny to be chatting, interacting with DD during dinner.

I think my DH's dislike also stems from the fact that he doesn't like pop music himself.

Do you think nanny would think we are overreacting and being strange if we ask her to not listen to the radio with DD around? That's really what we want, but I don't want to make nanny unhappy as in the whole scheme of things this is probably a small issue.

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woodstock3 · 02/07/2009 21:57

meant objecting to the noise LEVELS obviously
as in rather than the content/nanny's taste

woodstock3 · 02/07/2009 21:56
Laquitar · 02/07/2009 17:44

sBlondes i wasn't going to replly anymore but i will for you. Yes, ex-nanny for nearly 20 years. Have given advice to working mums on hiring nanny or arranging nannyshares many times

AtheneNoctua · 02/07/2009 17:42

I said full time, and then you said yes I do, and so I was clarifying if you really meant full time, which I see now you didn't. The reason I asked is becaue I think that the parenting / childcare issues are different for parents who both work full time than someone who is there part time and works part time. So, your experience of part time frelancing / locking kids in cupboard is not really comparable to those of us who either are nannies or employ nannies.

So, what exactly qualifies you to get up on your soapbox and preach on this subject?

I don't really hang out on say the sllergy threads because we don't really have allergies in my house. So I haven't got much to say.

Why do you come here? Not that you can't come here. It is a free board and everyone is welcome. But,I'm trying to understand your intent, if it is not stir things up.

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/07/2009 17:38

i thought Laquitar was a nanny/ex nanny from threads we have been on together

but im blonde though do have an idea what thread athene means

either way glad we have helped you huntress, and hope we havent scared you too much

though have to say getting fed up with EVERY radio station that seems to play his songs non stop

AtheneNoctua · 02/07/2009 17:37

ok, maybe it's not. But when a posted comes to section just to make parents feel bad about being working parents that too is not very nice. I did bite my tongue for ahile, but then she got a bit shirty with me. And I thought the OP should know some history. But the history is old enough that is no longer searchable.

I am trying to be supportive to the OP, whose thread is winding it's ugly neck out of control.

limonchik · 02/07/2009 17:36

Maria - I wouldn't leave a job over something petty like turning off the radio, but lots of petty things can add up to feeling controlled and micromanaged and do breed resentment. Lots of nannies move out of nurseries and into nanni#ying because they like being able to run the day themselves rather than being told by someone else what to do when and how to do it!

Maria2007 · 02/07/2009 17:35

Blonde- point taken. I understand where you're coming from I just personally am a bit paranoid about our wonderful nanny leaving, so I tend to jump at mentions of things such as 'I'd leave if i was asked not to play the radio'. But sure, if it were one more thing after many, of course it might make sense to consider leaving.

Laquitar · 02/07/2009 17:34

i didnt say full time Athene. You keep guessing and assuming and accusing.

As for my kids, no i lock them in the cupboardd until i come back.

Maria2007 · 02/07/2009 17:34

To be honest though Athene, it's really not very nice to be referring to what Laquitar has or hasn't said in other threads. I never like it when people do that on MN. People, after all, are allowed to change their opinions; or indeed their circumstances may change.

Laquitar, not sure though what you're referring to when you say you've helped me with some ideas? What thread are you referring to? (anyway, maybe it's me being daft here!)

AtheneNoctua · 02/07/2009 17:25

Well, anyone who wants to search the archives can. I'll leave it at that.

Do you really work full time now? And your kids go to childminder/nanny/relative? Perhaps you have changed. But, the evidence on this thread suggests otherwise frankly.

Laquitar · 02/07/2009 17:18

what the fuck are you talking about Athene?

I have given advice many times to working mums and currently i am one too. And many have thank me. Including Maria2007 i think.

I had clush with you on previous thread but had nothing to do with woking mums. You know very well what had to do with.

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/07/2009 17:12

tbh maria2007 - if a nanny is happy in her job she will compromise and try to work things out whatever the problem is - though if it is the icing on the cake, if lots of petty things have happened, then as nannys often work 11/12hrs,you HAVE to be happy in your job and as a nanny the job is obviously one that you need to get on/click with parents then yes that nanny may leave

i think i would find it very hard to not have radio on, and be in total quietness - would i really leave my perfect job - no - but then ive been there a long time, and i KNOW my mb wouldnt make me do that iyswim

if you have a problem with something your nanny does, then by all means tell her but

guess in my circumstances, if i had been allowed to do something for 3+yrs whether listen to radio/take children out/using phone etc then for it to be taken away/not allowed to go out etc - it would annoy me - would i leave - hmmmmmmmm ........ not this family, as i love them dearly - they will have to kick me out to make me leave

im a very bubbly outgoing blonde nanny and this is why my familys always employ me - they always mention they like my bubbly personality - and I work for the same kind of familys as me iyswim

"Do you think nanny would think we are overreacting and being strange if we ask her to not listen to the radio with DD around? That's really what we want"

huntress says in her Op that what we really want - but she has decided maybe after this thread to compromise as doesnt want to piss off her fab nanny and therefore to ask nanny to turn down radio/have it off for meal times is a fair compromise

AtheneNoctua · 02/07/2009 17:09

Huntress, Don't let Laquitor bother you. I think you are right about her coming her having something against you from the start. Laquitar has a history of comming onto the nanny threads to cause trouble because she doesn't approve of us working full time and handing our children over to childcare. I have been biting my tongue, but she has now said enough that I thought you should know her history.

Laquitar doesn't really know anything about being or having a nanny. She just likes to get involved so she can criticise working parents.

Incidentally, I think you have been a good employer here. You came on to get some feed back to make sure you had a good perspective and what is or is not generally acceptable among nannies and employers. You came to a sensible plan, which I assume you will now execute. job done. Why is this thread still going on? I suspect people are bored so just keep posting. There's not much else happeneing on the nanny threads just now.

Maria2007 · 02/07/2009 16:42

OP: I think it's an interesting question actually (and it's developed into an interesting discussion). We have a part-time nanny, we're very happy with her, & I too would be very very reluctant to ask her things like that (so far, thankfully, I haven't had reason to). But I think there is an essential issue here which hasn't been discussed on this thread really, and which is exactly the main difference between being an employer to anyone else & being an employer to a nanny. With a nanny, you want- ideally- the most continuity you can manage with your child, as attachment to specific people is important for small children. Right now, DP, me & our part-time nanny (about 20 hours a week) look after our DS & it's been that way since he was 5 months, & I'm so happy with the arrangement, I would make many small compromises to ensure she could stay. That obviously wouldn't mean I would compromise on something huge, but I really really like her & we have a good relationship, & I don't think huge compromises are likely to be expected. But small ones could (and they have, and I've dealt with them by usually putting aside some things).

So you wouldn't want her to leave the job, and that's a very important factor to consider. What I dread is attitudes such as those of Blonde who said she might leave the job if her employers asked her to not listen to the radio. Really Blonde?! And you've been, you say, with the family 3 years, so obviously you're close to the children & enjoy working there. But you would leave for something like that??? See that's the kind of attitude that scares me (although I do agree with most of Blonde's other points).

If you're any other type of employer... sure, continuity is good, but there is much less emotionality involved usually, compared to everything having to do with a child. So it's easier to dictate rules & to ask employees to stick to them.

Laquitar · 02/07/2009 16:36

oh fgs!

I 'm having issues with your husband for not liking pop music .

I know it has been hot today but still....

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/07/2009 16:30

perfect sense huntress

thehuntress · 02/07/2009 16:29

Laquiter - Several people have called others' opinions ridiculous (or something to that effect) in this thread. Why focus on just me saying that? Because I am the OP. Is there a mumsnet rule that OPs can't call out opinions that don't make sense?

And you didn't acknowledge that I HAD said thank you. So I'm thinking you probably had something against me from the beginning, probably something to do with my husband not liking pop music and assuming that means I must not be the type of person you like. Sigh...

Maybe I'm wrong.

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muppetgirl · 02/07/2009 16:23

can I just say that we listen to radio 1 in the morninigs and then I switch to radio 4 at 10 where it stays most of the day.

Radio 1 is drivel but we like the pop music whereas radio 4 has the most hardcore swearwords in many of its programs especially the 11.30-12 ones and the afternoon play.

Ds 1 has the most fantastic taste in music from his varied radio listening but does like the news and more information programes on Radio 4. He asks when he doesn't understand something. He's 5.

He also doesn't watch much telly as we don't have it on in the morning as his attitude changes completely if he watches, my parents have aliens, horrid henry and ben 10 and other such like.

Laquitar · 02/07/2009 16:20

No i am saying you ask for opinions and you don't say 'pixi your opinion is ridiculous'. Hope now i am clear because getting bored with this now.

thehuntress · 02/07/2009 16:12

I have said thanks several times. [hmmm] Look at the last para at my latest thread Laquitar.

Yes it must be the heat

Why is it bad to ask for opinions and then comment on those opinions. I thought this was a discussion board. So are you saying, I ask for opinions and never post again?

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Laquitar · 02/07/2009 16:00

Athene,
you know what? I ll not even going to reply to your comment about me. Too hot and sweaty right now to bother with you.

What a bizare thread! Someone asks for opinions. We waste our time to give our opinions in order to help and instead of 'thank you' we receive this and 'Pixinanny your opinion is ridiculous' .

Then the other strange woman says to me my comment is out of line, even so i havn't spoke to her or asked her opinion. So certain opinions only allowed in this thread. ok.

Jesus, must be the heat.

Oh and You are welcome OP.

thehuntress · 02/07/2009 15:05

Blondes - I think you are totally misunderstanding my reasons for pointing out that nannies have perks. It was more to point out that the good comes along with the bad (weird requests from parents offset by being able to enjoy the sunshine). Hope that makes sense. And I do tell my nanny she is fantastic all the time. I think she feels very appreciated. The whole reason I started this thread is that I was sensitive that asking her to curb her radio tastes might piss her off. Something I definitely don't want to do. As for my job, I'm hesitant to say because I'm sure that people will take against me purely for that reason, but suffice to say I work on a trading floor.

Also, sorry for not answering the question about the type of music. I don't know, my DH is the one who heard it and he has no clue about hip-hop vs pop vs dance.

I'm sorry if I sound defensive. I'm really not upset or feeling attacked about any of these posts. I find them quite interesting. The one exception was the comment about adjusting my music tastes for my DH, somehow implying that this is bad. I honestly don't think this is that weird. He hates pop music, that doesn't make him a bad person. That doesn't make me not want to be with him. It's not that important to me to be able to listen to pop music around him, as I have plenty of time to do it when we are apart. And I don't hate classical music, in fact I really like it.

Thanks for all of the responses. As I've said already, I'm not going to ban radio. I might have a chat with nanny to say make sure it's not too loud and maybe not at dinner so that DD can wind down from her day.

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AtheneNoctua · 02/07/2009 15:04

Yeah, a lot of people comment on the no parents. But that's nothing new. I recall the same oddity about Charlie Brown.

I used to love Wonder Pets because when they all yell out "Wonder pets!" DS (then aged 2) used to yell out "Under pants!"

tommypickles · 02/07/2009 14:16

OK I see. I have to say the one time I did catch some of it, I did think it a little strange that the girl seemed to be doing everything for the boy, she was bathing him and then putting him to bed and trying to comfort him (several times in and out of his bedroom at night) because he'd lost his favourite toy.

I had to ask my eldest daughter (13) what was going on, was Ruby the mum? She said no, brother and sister.

I know it's only a cartoon but thought it really strange that there were no adults around while a little girl had to struggle putting her brother to bed.....odd