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CM Club: Quite sad, not many people have applied for my job

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KatyMac · 23/05/2009 21:12

I didn't put a wage in so it's not that

I feel a bit sad tbh - I thought it was a lovely job

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KatyMac · 25/05/2009 00:26

It's tricky to know what people want/expect

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FromGirders · 25/05/2009 00:25

I think that's quite a detailed advert actually - in the past I've just put a fairly small ad in the local paper and explained the job / done a basic phone interview when people have phoned up.
But 2 or 3 applicants may be all you need - only one of them needs to be right for the job!

KatyMac · 24/05/2009 09:54

Does anyone think I should add in that we do funded Early Years Education?

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KatyMac · 24/05/2009 00:27

I'm from Liverpool....I just relocated

Never mind I'll re-think and advertise again on Tuesday

I have 2 maybe 3 to interview

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gigglinggoblin · 24/05/2009 00:22

I am in the north west! wasnt a very serious comment sorry!

KatyMac · 24/05/2009 00:20

I think that is part of the problem actually

It's a bit of a commute from most places & pretty much in the middle of no-where

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gigglinggoblin · 24/05/2009 00:15

Fair enough, if you need the it thentheres not much point bothering sbout that! I do think you are not selling yourself properly, it has amazing benfits and sounds like a wonderful setting. Dont be I would consider myself very lucky to work with you (bit too much of a commute sadly)

KatyMac · 24/05/2009 00:13

Actually Job centre ad is wrong, there's efficient for you - I'll be on the phone Tuesday morning

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KatyMac · 24/05/2009 00:03

Well they wouldn't be able to do the job

All the EYFS stuff is softcopy I need a good amount of IT literacy

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KatyMac · 24/05/2009 00:01

It's through this website

Oh & it's on the Job centre too

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gigglinggoblin · 24/05/2009 00:00

Just a thought - most of the staff in our local nursery cant use a computer so would not be able to email you their cv.

llareggub · 23/05/2009 23:58

JD by return? Obviously you need applicants for this to work, but it would be far more helpful for potential applicants to see the JD, salary and perks before they make a decision about whether to apply, and also give them the ability to tailor their CV to promote themselves effectively.

I've had lots of jobs over the years, and if I were ever to apply for another job in HR then I'd focus my CV on my achievements in HR. But if I were to return to my dim and distant past in sales, then I'd focus on that.

Could you re-think the information given to potential applicants and the process for applying? The salary isn't huge but the perks are great and worth something in monetary terms. Don't make the mistake of underselling the job.

gigglinggoblin · 23/05/2009 23:52

You should def include that you can bring your kids! Major selling point!

QS · 23/05/2009 23:52

In which case I would mention Great Perks.

KatyMac · 23/05/2009 23:50

Application is CV by email

I send back a job description by return

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KatyMac · 23/05/2009 23:48

Cos it's not great.....it's only just above minimum wage £6, £6.50 when qualified

But I do a nice lunch & you can bring your children with you in the holidays as we have a holiday play scheme (or if they are only a little bit poorly)
& it's 7 week leave (6 weeks paid)

Life is crap isn't it

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QS · 23/05/2009 23:45

I agree, the salary is a vital piece of information. If you have put it, but prefer to leave it out for MN purposes, that is understandable. But I would like to know the salary before I apply for a job, as I would need to know if it was worth my time writing an application.

llareggub · 23/05/2009 23:42

Why haven't you put the salary in? I think you should. It always irritates me when adverts lack basic but useful information. The advert itself is informative and well written, and the lack of a wage would definitely put me off.

KatyMac · 23/05/2009 23:37

So maybe:
"This is a part time position working within a well-qualified team of 6 childcare practitioners in a small and friendly setting.
Latest OFSTED grading: Outstanding
Hours will be Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Fridays 8am - 1pm and Thursdays 8am - 2pm with occasional additional hours may be required to attend training sessions. This post can be flexible and may occasionally need additional hours to cover sickness/holidays but would give as much notice of this as possible.

Applicants must be enthusiastic about working with children and also be able to assist with some administrative duties. There will be a comprehensive induction program and necessitates a CRB check which employer will arrange.

This is a great opportunity for someone with a natural flair for childcare who wishes to develop their career through training at NVQ level with the support of a friendly, outgoing staff team. Your role will be to help maintain a safe, secure and happy environment, help children achieve early learning goals and build positive relationships with parents."

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KatyMac · 23/05/2009 23:18

I hope....4x5hrs plus 1x6hrs is 26hrs.....maybe

We are a small setting although we are large for childminding. There aren't many childminding settings around.

I have generally done better with 'returning to work after children' and 'retiring but not ready to give up yet' than a youngster

My last member of staff to move on became a nursery manager

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QS · 23/05/2009 23:12

Sorry I must have counted up the hours wrong, I got it to be around 20.

But still, I think you need to ensure you phrase it correctly regards to members of staff. I dont think it sounds like a small childminding setting. A childminder is usually thought of as a one person business. If you have 5 members of staff, looking to recruit number six, i would say something like:

This is a part time position working within a well-qualified team of 6 childcare practitioners in a small and friendly childminding setting .....

Scarfmaker · 23/05/2009 23:11

Yes agree with QS about the hours - a bit erratic and maybe only helpful for somebody who hasn't any children of their own I suppose. Is that what you're looking for because once they had done all this training on a Saturday etc. then they could just swan off and become a registered childminder in their own right!

Why don't you just advertise for an assistant from the start and then see how it goes? As you say, the person is more important than their qualifications. I think the ad sounds a bit too intensive and maybe puts people off.

KatyMac · 23/05/2009 23:09

Rural Norfolk.....not far from Great Yarmouth

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Supernanny19 · 23/05/2009 23:08

Where are you based KM?

gigglinggoblin · 23/05/2009 22:53

I think I would phrase it as 'occasional additional hours may be required to attend training sessions' and then explain more fully in person. I think anyone remotely clued up about training in childcare would expect to do training evenings and weekends. It is certainly standard practice in my area, almost all the courses run outside office hours.

Personally I would also struggle with the 8 oclock start as I have a million children of my own. But thats just me. Other than that I would apply

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