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Nanny seems a bit depressed -- what are the signs and at what point...

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nannymopesalot · 11/05/2009 16:41

would you do something about it? And what exactly would you do.

Yes, I have gone a changed my name for this. Partly because I want good sound unbiased advise but mostly to protect my nanny, whom I don't want to be too hard on.

Genreally speaking, I like her, she works hard (usually), and the kids like her.

But...

Since breaking up with her boyfriend (he did the breaking up) she has been suffering from insomnia, her attention to detail (largely but not exclusively attention to tidying up), and sort her general level of enthusiasm has dropped. I think she is probably showing some classic signs of depression. But, honestly, Im not really sure what those are.

And a tiny littl part of me is wondering at what point this behaviour becomes a risk to the welfare of my kids, whom she sometimes looks after for a three or four day stretch on her own.

Perhaps it is just a phase and not really anything to worry about. But I wondered if any employers or nannies out there could share any experience.

If you know who I am, please don't reveal my identity, mostly for the protection of my nanny's identity, not mine.

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ScummyMummy · 11/05/2009 17:14

I think you should concentrate on how she is doing her job rather than worrying about whether she has depression or not, tbh. If you find she is weepy and forlorn in response to your normal boss instructions then that's an opening to express your concerns about her health but otherwise it's her business really. I'd just just say hey babycakes, chin up and look after my babies, please and be very kind but quite firm in pointing out anything that's amiss in her performance so you don't brood and get peeved about things not getting done.

nannymopesalot · 11/05/2009 17:07

Thanks for the link, Scummy.

I could put a lot of ticks on that list -- not on everything but probably about 3/4 of it. (self harming and suicide I would not tick, but irritability, lack of motivation, and difficulty remembering things would all get ticks)

How many ticks does one hoave to put for depression to be present I wonder?

being restless and agitated
waking up early, having difficulty sleeping, or sleeping more
feeling tired and lacking energy; doing less and less
using more tobacco, alcohol or other drugs than usual
not eating properly and losing or putting on weight
crying a lot
difficulty remembering things
physical aches and pains with no physical cause
feeling low-spirited for much of the time, every day
being unusually irritable or impatient
getting no pleasure out of life or what you usually enjoy
losing interest in your sex life
finding it hard to concentrate or make decisions
blaming yourself and feeling unnecessarily guilty about things
lacking self-confidence and self-esteem
being preoccupied with negative thoughts
feeling numb, empty and despairing
feeling helpless
distancing yourself from others; not asking for support
taking a bleak, pessimistic view of the future
experiencing a sense of unreality
self-harming (by cutting yourself, for example)
thinking about suicide.

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BonsoirAnna · 11/05/2009 17:06

Have your children noticed anything, btw? Do they seem different?

BonsoirAnna · 11/05/2009 17:04

You don't have to suggest she is depressed. Say that you have noticed changes in her behaviour etc and you'd feel like a bad employer if you didn't encourage her to take herself along to the GP and see whether anything is wrong.

nannymopesalot · 11/05/2009 17:02

I have bent over backwards trying to make her life easier in the last month or so. I have made concessions for her I've never even thought about for previous nannies.

There comes a point when I need her to do the job I hired her to do. And, there must come a point when I have to choose what is best for my kids over what is best for the nanny. I guess what I need to know is whether nanny's state of mind is in fact putting her best interests in conflict with my children's best interests.

Anna, the GP suggestion is tricky because if she is not depressed (or doesn't think she is) then she might take great offense to the suggestion. So, I'd sort of like to be a bit more sure of the situation before I go there.

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ScummyMummy · 11/05/2009 17:00

Depression Factsheet from MIND.

foxinsocks · 11/05/2009 16:53

how long ago was the break up?

If she didn't expect it or see it coming, it probably was incredibly traumatic. Don't think this necessarily means she's depressed. She could just be struggling with the break up of a relationship, which a lot of people do.

Could you afford for her to have a little break or holiday? Perhaps she could go and visit a friend or her family?

BonsoirAnna · 11/05/2009 16:52

It's probably best not to do any diagnosis yourself, but to encourage her to go to her GP as much as you possibly can.

nannymopesalot · 11/05/2009 16:51

I don't think this is really just about the break up. (incidentally, they dated for about 3 months so not a very long relationship)

But I think the break up may have aggraveated something that was already there.

Or maybe I am overreacting. That is a distinct possibility as I know next to nothing about depression.

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BonsoirAnna · 11/05/2009 16:46

She sounds very sad about the break-up . Can you suggest - as her employer, with her welfare as well as that of your children at heart - she sees her GP?

nannymopesalot · 11/05/2009 16:44

When I say three or four day stretch, I mean through the night, not just the days.

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