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Single parent who need childcare before 8 in the morning - what do you do?

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twinsetandpearls · 09/05/2009 18:22

Dp and I decided at our counselling session today that once we have sold our house we are probably going to go our separate ways.

That leaves me in Dorset with no family and a childcare problem. I currently live about half an hour from my school so leave for work at the latest 7:45am. That is too early for breakfast club.

I could do the following:

  1. MOve closer to my school but I think that would be hard on dd as she has just moved school ( we moved here in August , we also have some friends we have made locally who cant help in terms of childcare but can be there to support.

  2. Hire a childminder to take dd to school and pick her up. I just know that when I needed a childminder before it was very difficult to get one who would work before 8am although that was in lancashire.

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EachPeachPearMum · 09/05/2009 23:30

TSAP- I am so sorry to hear this
wishing you well, and thinking of you.

twinsetandpearls · 09/05/2009 23:24

I think the person was right in that I cant be the kind of teacher I am now and be a good parent.

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JenniPenni · 09/05/2009 23:23

"I cant teach as a single parent and be a proper parent"

It's awful that people think this - they are so ignorant! My mum raised FOUR kids on her own with no help from our father or the state (we didn't grow up in the UK)... and she was a teacher... and she was (and is!) a SUPERB mother. We've all turned out rather well too if I may say so myself! A banker, a scientist, a teacher and a graphic designer (now CM ;)).

Please try not to take to heart what thoughtles and ignorant people say.

Kewcumber · 09/05/2009 23:10

"I cant teach as a single parent and be a proper parent" - oh people will tell you that you can;t be anything as a single parent and be a "proper" parent.

You have to cultivate a thicker skin and let it slide off. Thousands of childrne in the war were succesfuly raised by working single mothers with not a father in sight!

nbee84 · 09/05/2009 23:08

rockin How long ago was this? I and a quite a few others on here are registered as nannies (on the voluntary register with Ofsted) and both those things above were needed. The first aid course had to be the 12 hour one and if the Common Core Skills were not covered by a qualification then a course had to be attended to do them. The CRB was then carried out with the registration. We also have to have insurance. nannynick is the one in the know on all this (think he also worked for Ofsted a while back)

Kewcumber · 09/05/2009 23:05

Sorry to hear your position Tinset - just like to agree with the CM sugegstuons. My CM as happy to take DS fom 7.45am without extra charges. Certainly in London many CM'swilltakechildrne from 7.30 becasue of the need to commute.

WHy not line up a few local CM's and talk to them.

RockinSockBunnies · 09/05/2009 23:02

nbee84 - We didn't need those things. Our au pair was French. She registered on the voluntary register with Ofsted. She had to send proof of having attended a normal first aid course and a French equivalent of a CRB check - essentially a document stating that she had no criminal convictions. She already had both these documents when she came to be our au pair. We duly registered with Ofsted, paid the fee and she was given a registration number, which was accepted by Tax Credit people.

There's information on the Ofsted website.

Twinset - an au pair might not mind a box room so long as she can use the rest of the house....

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nbee84 · 09/05/2009 22:53

rockinsockbunnies - you were very lucky to find an au pair that had already done a paediatric first aid course and had a qualification in the Common Core Skills to enable her to register with Ofsted. Most au pairs wouldn't have either so the employer would have the additional cost of those courses on top of the £100 Ofsted fee.

twinsetandpearls · 09/05/2009 22:52

The house we are in has 2 good sized rooms and a box room. It would not be fair to put an aupair in there.

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RockinSockBunnies · 09/05/2009 22:48

I'm not sure how big your house is but I would certainly recommend the au pair idea. I'm a single parent and had an au pair last year whilst I was working full time in the City. We're in London, have a 2-bed house so I had to share DD's room (I slept on a futon - thankfully the room is large) whilst au pair had my room with en-suite .

If there's a possibility that you can fit an au pair in your house then you can claim the cost of having one through tax credits, provided they register with Ofsted (which took around 6 weeks and cost a flat fee of £100 which I paid).

Having seen your other thread on tax credits, it appears you may be reluctant to make a claim! Nonetheless, if you do choose to do so, then an au pair could be a saving grace...

nbee84 · 09/05/2009 22:41

A couple of people have suggested an au pair - and have metioned the cost to be about £80 per week. I just wanted to point out that although you may pay them £80 the true cost is a lot more. You have to take into account energy and heating bills for someone else in the house when you are out at work - that extra tank of hot water every day for a bath/shower. And the biggest additional cost is the food bill - depending on how big your au pair eats that could be an extra £30 - £40 per week. There are other little bits and bobs too like phones and bus fares.

twinsetandpearls · 09/05/2009 22:30

Thanks, I am going to have to make huge changes, I currently work 70+ hours a week. It is very scary.

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thesilverlining · 09/05/2009 21:43

oh twinset :-(

I have heard that myself - from my own family no less!

Yes absolutely it will be a hard slog - I did it for a year as a singleton before changing career and I was physically and emotionally exhausted. BUT you will be fine as long as you use you down time wisely - ie make sure that you set aside time in the evening where you have quality time with DD - for us supper time was lovely each evening. Try not to stay late in school to finish marking or planning - take it home to do after DD is in bed. It will be more tiring for you but will do wonders for yours and DDs relationship as you will get quality time with her after school for an hour or so doing HW together and enjoying cooking together etc when shes not too tired and grouchy.

And you will have SOME time over the holls when you can leave the paperwork

You can do this AND be a great mum. Ignore the pessimist who said otherwise!

twinsetandpearls · 09/05/2009 21:37

No I know you werent but someone ( not on here) has told me today that I cant teach as a single parent and be a proper parent.

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thesilverlining · 09/05/2009 21:36

Sorry I wasn't suggesting you give up your job!!! I wish I hadn't now in alot of ways tbh so I am pleased for you that you are sticking it out!

As you are now going to be single please make sure you choose registered childcare (ie with Ofsted) so that you can get all the help you are entitled to

Good luck!

twinsetandpearls · 09/05/2009 21:24

I don't know why it is difficult tbh am sure lots of people are in the office at a similar time. Thanks silverlining.

I cant give up work as one I love my job and I suspect it is going to keep me going over the next few difficult months and secondly I need to support dd and I.

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thesilverlining · 09/05/2009 21:21

twinset - I'm across the border in Somerset so no help to you but only just moved here from dorset so know some areas of dorset very well......it will be difficult I have to be honest - its one of the main reasons I gave up teaching as I couldn't get CMs to start early enough for a school start.

HOWEVER things have changed a fair bit in the past 5 years and alot of the newer CMs coming into the profession are more willing to consider the needs of shift workers and early starters. Be prepared to offer a little more for the hour before 8am but other than that you should be ok. be up front from the start and any CMs who aren't willing to put themselves out for you aren't "career" CMs anyway - they'#re just doing it temporarily so they can stay home a little longer with their kids!!

Good luck

sassy · 09/05/2009 21:11

Crikes, twinset; sorry to hear this.

Am sure you could find an early childminder, especially if you start looking now for Sept. My (wonderful)CM took dd1 from 7.45 daily. Start with children's service for the county; they will have lists of CMs and may be able to tell you who has vacancies.

twinsetandpearls · 09/05/2009 21:06

We moved to Dorset from Lancashire in August, I have a friend round the corner who I know I could call on at any time and people at work would help out.

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Julesnobrain · 09/05/2009 20:58

Sorry I meant not trained in childcare......

Julesnobrain · 09/05/2009 20:58

Sorry to hear that. Have you thought of an AP who can do school drop and collection. Mine collects from after school club as AP's are trained in chidcare but they are more than capable of making breakfast, dressing, taking to school, and collection. Then you also have built in babysitting and cleaning etc.

spicemonster · 09/05/2009 20:15

You should be eligible for tax credits - I get them and I earn a reasonable amount. They do really help and I think they've got much better about calculating them properly than they used to (as far as I know). You are entitled to the money so you should claim I reckon. I personally would opt for a CM rather than an au pair purely because of the hassle of having some random person in my house at a time you're feeling vulnerable. And because of the continuity thing from your DD's perspective. Ring the council and get their list too - don't rely on the one on the childcare link website which is rubbish and out of date.

I also know that my CM cuts me a lot of slack because I'm a single mum - she really helps me out a lot and it's really nice for me too, not just my DS.

Have you moved recently? Do you have support for you?

mumlove · 09/05/2009 19:40

Sorry to hear this

Does Shoshe do a school run to your DD's school or know any that do?

MintyyAeroEgg · 09/05/2009 19:21

Au pair about £80 per week afaik. Actually, thats purely anecdotal, based on what friends have told me.

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