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Starting off on the right foot (APs)

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Millarkie · 01/05/2009 09:07

I wish there was a AP host family forum so I could let rip about current AP but anyway......
Tips required for how to start off on the right foot with next AP..please.

I have handbook - with info on house, routines of all of us, local info etc.
I have 'duty list' - broken down into jobs which happen at a certain time (ie. child watching 4pm-5.30pm) and jobs that need to be done by the end of the week (dust living room shelves).
I pay generously and the jobs add up to fewer than 25 hours.

So, without writing down all the niggles which we have been through and making me look like an obsessive nightmare - how do I get through the first few weeks without being a pushover and ended up in the situation I'm in now???

Unfortunately I also have an overlap between current AP and new AP (which is good if current AP introduces new AP to some friends but not so good if she also hands over her bad habits), but I"m taking off a few days to show new AP around the area etc.

When I'm back at work should I schedule nightly chats with new AP and question her as to what she's done or not done? Should I create a tick-list for jobs?

If anyone wants a laugh I can list the things that current AP has done that is making me so paranoid about the next one

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Millarkie · 01/05/2009 11:09

There is also the time when it was snowy and the school bus company said that they couldn't pick up the kids from our lane (has a steep slope that was too icy for the minibus) but was picking up children from the next lane in the village. Despite dh (who drives a car that can cope with snow) telling her clearly to 'Ring him' if there was any problem with bus she decided to drive the kids herself, in my car (fiat multipla, not a car for snow) rather than speak to him (so he could collect them) or walk them to next lane (3 min walk). That was scarey.
And she has this weird thing where if I buy something different eg. a hot choc sachet or a packet of pistachios for a treat (for me!), she eats it before the shopping's been put away..even 'special' food for the kids when I have told her - that pizza is for ds because he won't eat any other type (but we have lots of others to choose from), she will preferentially choose to eat it..once I noticed the habit it became really obvious.

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Millarkie · 01/05/2009 11:03

Thanks Guys

I feel better for the rant

I admit I don't go back to the shop to get her 'urgent' bits unless I think it's going to affect us (ie. sometimes she uses up all the veg in the house so I need to get some for our tea)

The no-lead dog thing I only found out through having time off work for some reason and being here when she took the dog off down the lane, bouncing about (the dog that is) with no lead..have spoken to her but she really does whatever she feels is right so I don't feel confident that she will change.

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HarrietTheSpy · 01/05/2009 10:56

Millarkie
You are a saint. I couldn't carry on, I couldn't carry on. There are many things on this list I would feel the need and very able to sack her for (speeding, walking the dog w/o a lead - freely admit I'm animal crazy but it's unsafe. How does she plan to explain it to you/your children if the dog gets hit??) What a lunatic with the Stonehedge arrangements?! DH would have gone into SPACE if we had a nanny/au pair do that.

Don't even think of going back to the store for her bits. Please don't do that.

Her exercise class has to wait. Just say no. I'm usually a push over, but do it.

I could go on. I feel for you.

mummydoc · 01/05/2009 10:52

oh Mllarkie, you are not beign an obsessive nightmare, tis a strange thing this au pair arrangement, but hte bottom line is she is not your guest or house share or child, she has come to do a job ( albeit as part of the family) and reall yif you tell her not to walk dog off lead for instance she should do as told ( rather like children - so actually that might be the key treat ap liek another child ) I was horrified by some people who replied to my questions about AP's who said they have detailed spread sheets of jobs, expect things ticked off etc and be tough on perks - but i think now hearing from you that maybe you have to be really clear and firm at the beginning and then you could lighten up if they are fab...

SimpleAsABC · 01/05/2009 10:32

Sounds like she has issues with listening, i.e. she doesn't!

You do not seem like an obsessive nightmare, you sound like you've been quite patient and now, quite rightly, have had enough!

Millarkie · 01/05/2009 10:04

I'm now waiting for everyone to say - that's totally normal for an AP and I am an obsessive nightmare

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Millarkie · 01/05/2009 10:02

Hey I was hoping someone would Although some of it is a 'laugh or I would be crying' thing!

Disclaimer: I know I have been useless but I'm fed up with having 'chats' with her all the time and ds takes a long time to get used to people hence she is still here and will remain til end of contract..besides you got to give her some allowance for youth

Food/Exercise
This is the AP who doesn't eat - first couple of weeks barely ate a thing but turned up my heating to the max 24 hours a day (I was sweltering it was awful), cost us £125 in heating oil in 2 weeks!..was very worried she was anorexic..she then started eating but only low carb stuff, so chicken, fish, veg, salad, protein shakes, and vast amounts of exotic fruit (about £10-15 a week just for fruit). To some extent that's all well and good (if very expensive) but then she started on my family's diet (vegetarian, no junk food, cooked from scratch most days (occasional quorn thing)). Ds has (amongst roll, fruit, yog etc) a cake bar in his school pack lunch - AP was taking it out every day (after dh/i made the lunches and left for work)..took weeks for ds to tell us. Last week AP hid the chocolate biscuits (ie. went into the biscuit barrell and took out every bourbon/choc digestive and hid them, from me, kids, everyone!) She also goes to the gym every day (at least once, sometimes twice), and (although I go to the gym 4 times a week) is constantly telling asking me to go to the gym more often. (Yes, I am overweight, but still!)
Ds has started a new club (Karate) after school and she has refused to take him/pick up (or to stay at home with dd whilst I take/pick up) because it clashes with a gym class she like to go to (booked each week so not paid in advance)..so I spend one afternoon a week entertaining dd in a leisure centre cafe whilst ds does karate and AP is in her class, and then we all have to wait (past tea time) for AP to finish so we can drive her home. (I know, the tail is wagging the dog but by now I have given up!)

'Gardening'
Gardening is not part of AP's job - so why oh why, when we were away on holiday (she was at home on full pay and had her mum/sister stay with her) did she take large lumps of tree which were sitting on the patio awaiting dh's chainsaw and place them 'artistically' around the garden in 'stonehenge' type formations..thus killing off parts of lawn, making mowing difficult, and meaning we have to collect them all for chopping (oh, and my neighbour laughed at them).

'Choosing her own jobs'
So, AP has been given a list of jobs to do, dust shelves/piano once a week, wipe windowsills, etc. but does she do them...no..not at all for first 6 weeks and then only with nagging gentle persuasion from me in any week after.
But she does do stuff we haven't asked for including...folding up the washing (not just the kids..I am coming home to folded pants ), creating flower arrangements/decorating easter eggs and dangling them from twigs 'artistically', and this week she rearranged the (folded) clothes in the kids' drawers (and then asked me why dd had so many long-sleeved tops - um...because I haven't bought her any summer ones yet!).

'Breaking the law/social conventions'
She regularly parks in the mum+toddler spaces at the gym (I have a really distinctive car so have had text messages from friends asking about it!)
She is open about speeding (in my car!) and has been caught by a speed camera.
She is open about not buying a train ticket unless she has to (has barriers)
She is studying from a book marked 'Do not remove from XXXXX library'
And she picks flowers (either 'wild' or from verges - which in our village belong to the house behind) and uses them for our 'flower arrangements'. I have always told the kids 'take nothing but photos' but she refuses to see it as wrong.
This is also reflected in the way she interacts with us - she pushes everything to the limit. We said she would have to pay towards fuel if she did a trip over 50 miles, so she does several trips of 40+ miles a week. We say ok her family can stay when we are on holiday, I fill the house with food and leave £40 for emergencies/food top ups/taxi to supermarket...come home to empty cupboards, no milk etc, and no change from my £40..we fed/housed her family for a week and didn't even get a thank you from her or them!
Talking of shopping, she also waits until I get home from work and then informs me that she needs something (agar flakes, or something obscure) for the next day and expects me to jump into the car and zip off to get them for her (rather then her get them during the day and me re-imburse her).
Oh, and I've just found out that she's been encouraging the dog to go upstairs and into her room (dog was trained not to go upstairs at all). And she walks the dog off the lead when she is on the road (also, after I have repeated told her to use the lead until she is in the fields).

Argh....ok...I know..she is young (20)..I am useless... but I really want the next AP to do the 'jobs' and to be better at recognising a 'clash' and getting rid sooner...

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Rebeccash · 01/05/2009 09:25

Make me feel better....... tell us

ilove · 01/05/2009 09:09

I need a laugh...