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NURSERY SAID WHAT?????

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coolj · 28/04/2009 17:38

I had one of my mindees parents on the phone today very upset. Her DS was at nursery this morning and accidentally broke a toy during water play. The nursery told the DC off in front of everyone and demanded an apology. The child said that it was an accident so the nursery rang the childs mum and asked her to come in to take him home .

They discussed the situation if front of everyone and the mother said she felt very small and was spoken to like a schoolchild. The child apologised but it was not accepted because he had a smile on his face (he always has btw) and told him he showed no remorse. He was told to go home and that he would not be allowed to play in the water tray ever again??? WTF.

The poor mother was clearly upset and was told to advise her childminder of the situation and to ask if I would have a problem in taking the child???

As you can imagine I didnt have a probem accepting the child but advised the mother to think very carefully about her choice of nursery.

What happened to the Unique child

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BoffinMum · 10/05/2009 16:47

Is this the nursery class to a state primary school?

MadamDeathstare · 01/05/2009 03:49

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Royale · 30/04/2009 23:56

Write them a letter saying that you were very concerned that they allow young children to play in trees that are not safe to bear their weight. State that you are concerned that the child could have fallen and injured himself, and ask what supervision was in place to ensure that the children were playing in a safe and suitable manner.

Ask to see a copy of their risk assessment for the play area, their health and safety policy for the supervision of children whilst they are playing, and a copy of the post accident risk assessment.

Make it clear that you consider that a young child is not capable of assessing the risk of such play, and that you are concerned that the nursery is not complying with their duty of care to carry out a reasonable assessment themselves. Ask them if they can reassure you that they will re-assess their procedures to ensure that all the children can play together in a safe and inclusive way.

Hopefully, making it painfully clear that you consider them to be the ones at fault might get them to back off, particularly if they realise they are at fault for not being able to produce all the necessary paperwork!

kitkatqueen · 30/04/2009 23:10

O.....M......G...... Gobsmacked. Report them to everybody, photographs of the tree and the kids climbing in them, written signed statement of "child throws hair bobble incident" to send to ofsted and possibly the nursery's insurance company? and send the whole lot to the bloody paper if they don't do something.

Poor little boy! Poor Mum!

looneytune · 30/04/2009 22:56

Nothing more to add, just and

Umlellala · 30/04/2009 20:58

FrEAKin HELL
I have just read this (am browsing in your section ) and am just so

I am a Secondary teacher. My last job was in a PRU for EXCLUDED kids in Hackney (yes, so big scary 15yo 'hoodies') and I wouldn't speak to them like that. Outrageous. No wonder you are livid. Tell the mum to get her kid OUT and stay with you for lots of cuddles. Poor little boy.

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coolj · 30/04/2009 20:42

Actually her other child does attend the school and not had any problems.

Mum reckons you are fine if your face fits if not you get a rough time.

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CrushWithEyeliner · 30/04/2009 17:55

Good God this should be reported ASAP. This sounds like some kind of brutal regime not a nursery school

Littlepurpleprincess · 30/04/2009 17:51

she could go to both, I would.

Littlefish · 30/04/2009 17:43

Not sure that Ofsted will do anything actually. She might be better off going to the governors or the LEA. I don't think that Ofsted will act on individual complaints.

Littlepurpleprincess · 30/04/2009 17:34

I can imagine Ofsted will be horrified.

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coolj · 30/04/2009 17:27

Found out this is actually the headmistress. Why she is involved with the preschoolers I dont know .

Another little boy was taken to the Head as he threw a little girls hair bobble over the fence and the parent got called in over that.

My mindees mum has now withdrawn him and told them she is looking into putting him into another school from September. She was told she was being dramatic and that there was no point in talking to her. WTF!!!

This school always has good Ofsted reports. I imagine the children have to wear straightjackets all day so they cant leave mess .

Anyway Ofsted have been told about this. Lets see what happens now.

Athene - I would have already rammed the branch down her throat .

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AtheneNoctua · 30/04/2009 15:53

If I were that mum I'd invite all the kids round for a party and then I'd tell all their parents what happened at the nursery.

Regarding what to do with the branch, I believe she was supposed to shove it up the workers arse.

This nursery should be closed down. Presumably they talk to all the kids like this.

HSMM · 30/04/2009 08:07

speechless

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coolj · 29/04/2009 21:33

As far as I can gather, this is coming from the boss. When the mum received the phone call, her DC was at the headmasters office???

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Yurtgirl · 29/04/2009 21:28

That is terrible

Is it all of the staff who think this way or just one do you think?
I am intrigued at what the manager/head teacher thinks of this - It is completely unacceptable.

Complain and shame at will

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coolj · 29/04/2009 21:22

I couldnt believe that they allow the children to climb trees. If they were monitoring the children, they would see that the branch was about to break. Thank goodness the branch wasnt higher up and caused damage to the child.

How dare they use me to get at the child as well. Im absolutely fuming and feel like getting in touch with the nursery but dont know if I should stir up yet more trouble.

I advised mum not to go back to the setting and just wait for the other nursery to give her a starting date.

I will find out tomorrow what Ofsted said.

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underpaidandoverworked · 29/04/2009 19:22

Pre-schoolers climbing trees - would love to see their risk assessment for that activity . Something urgent needs to be done about this setting - I hope your mother DOES contact Ofsted, it would serve the buggers right. How dare they treat a child like that If we did that we'd be suspended immediately.

Northernlurker · 29/04/2009 18:20

They've banned him from outside play and told him his childminder won't want anything to do with him????

I wouldn't just been ringing Ofsted - I'd be tempted to set up a picket line outside - 'What do want - competent carers, when do we want them? NOW!'

His behaviour is their responsibility when he is in their charge - that doesn't mean they can just dump him - they have to work with him - he has done nothing in this situation that wouldn't expect from any lively, healthy toddler and it is outrageous that they are behaving like this. Yesterday's thing was weird - this is just plain awful!

DuffyFluckling · 29/04/2009 17:29

Very peculiar.

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coolj · 29/04/2009 17:25

Hi there. There is now a second installment. When she arrived this afternoon with DC, she said she was called out YET AGAIN this morning (I cant believe she even took him back).

Apparantly the preschoolers are allowed to climb the trees??????? and DC had bounced on a lower branch and it snapped. Said worker had a real go at DC and called mum in again. Told her they really dont know what to do with child????? and DC will not be allowed outdoor play ever again??? So now barred from sand (health reasons) water play and outdoor play .

DC left nursery again upset. They even gave the mother the branch (what was she supposed to do with it? Sellotape it back on?) and had another go at the mother. WTF again. The nursery told the chid 'what will your CM think of your behaviour, she wont want to look after you again'

Mum and DC walked out of the discussion and came to me.

She asked me for Ofsteds number to make a formal complaint. I gave it without hesitation.

She is at a quandry now what to do about reception in Sept as she has just recvd the placement letter.

I know what Id do.

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thebody · 29/04/2009 15:20

the nursery worker should be reported to Ofsted and the mother should ask to see a copy of the discipline policy.. To be honest if thet was one of my children or one of my mindees treated that way the worker might have been lucky to escape with a bloody good telling off from me infront of everyone..cow!!!

HSMM · 29/04/2009 08:06

Even if the child deliberately broke things every day and cackled about evil witches at the same time, there are ways to deal with this that do not involve shouting at the child, or parents in front of everyone!