What would an unqualified childcare worker earn ?

Sorry nannynick Ill stop digging!

Anyways I agree with nannynick on the advert side. I advertised myself as a babysitter too, before I got present job.

It is hard driving ten miles at half 6 in the morning then gong home at half nine after tidying the house, then 'trying' to have a catch up nap when dd's around, going back at 3 to pick kids up, and cooking etc...

I took it becuase we were strapped for cash. She doesnt take advantage of me, she says I should do what I would normally do in my own home and I can bring dd whenever i like.

If the person you find doesnt have children and is qualified, drives, has fully comp insurance etc... I would pay them a bit more than I get for definate. If it was any other family, then I would ask for around £6-7hr plus petty.

I also find it nice that i get the 'day' 9:30 - 2:30 to myself though.

When I did it, I had a full-time job at the time in retail - so I was doing the nanny on my days off from the retail job.
I'm not sure how many people would be able to do this sort of thing... the timings can be a bit messy, so it may take you a while to find a suitable candidate.
When I did this... the parent contacted me after I had advertised myself as a babysitter in the local paper. So it may be worth you responding to adverts, as well as placing them.

I'm not sure exactly what it is your are looking for. Perhaps you need to focus on that - the hours and days they would work, what duties they would do, how that would differ during school holiday time, that kind of thing. Once you have created a job profile, it may give you ideas on who may fit the role - for example, a mum whose children have left the nest, a mum who brings their own child with them, a college student.

I once did some nannying which involved collecting 3 children from school/activities and taking them to various activities, also making dinner (or part-making), assisting with homework/music practice and putting the younger two to bed. I'm not sure what you are wanting... but perhaps you are wanting something similar to that.

Sorrento - I feel you need to consider hard if you really want to employ close family. If you fell out over something work related, would that affect your relationship family wise? Would your brother do as you tell him? If your brother had a problem whist caring for your children, would he call you or mum? Do you really want all your close family knowing what is happening at your home?

Give it careful thought... then if you are still thinking it would work out, ask your brother what he would want to be paid.

Chellesgirl - You seem to like digging a large hole. Stop digging

Sorry the Surestart National Standards are obsolete & have been since Sept 08

You need to be looking at the EYFS paperwork now

But Chellesgirls, as that clearly states:

"The ratios include the childminder?s own children and any others for
whom s/he is responsible and who are on the premises."

www.surestart.gov.uk/_doc/P0002411.pdf 2.2 childminding ratios.

bullet points 3,4,5

Demonstrate that you can care for any amount of children above the age of 8 (blood relative/other child) and will not count in numbers.

Also exceptions can be made for brothers/sisters

Im also thinking if your child is disabled (needing continuos care) then ofsted can make exceptions.

But it DID count with the Council register as well.

no lol that was when my mum became one lol. I knew someone would get it twisted. no I was looking about 4 months ago but decided it wasnt for me, Id rather build and own a childrens home.

and thats probably why the rules have changed Shoshe. If ofsted wernt around for childminders then, then having her own children around her (my mum) it wouldnt have counted.

I remember her having to do her NVQ a year after she started actually and when all the new rules and rgulations came into play. like educating the children in your care etc...

Ofsted didnt do Childminders in 2000, I went over in 2001???

And even before that your own children counted in your numbers.

You were looking to be a childminder in 2000? When you were 11 ?

Rules seem to change every day for cms

Chellesgirl, rules change all the time. Things have changed quite a bit since 2000.

Maybe rules have changed since 2000? i dont know. I just remember reading it on thier website when I was looking to be a childminder, but opted out as dp has caution.

No, but if challenged by Ofsted you have to be able to show how you are 'meeting the needs' of all of the children in your care. Personally, haven't minded children older than 7yrs anyway - though have adult and teenage daughters too.

But it doesnt include children over 8 yrs?

Chellesgirl, I'm a cm, ds 4yrs, and the number I can care for is reduced by 1 until he is 8years old. So I can care for 5 under-8s instead of 6. He also takes up one of my under-5 places at the moment which means I can care for 2 additional under-5s instead of 3. Blood relatives ARE counted when a 'head count' is done for the number of children in my care at any one time. Don't even have ds friend round to play if it puts me over the numbers stated on my Ofsted registration certificate.

As far as I am aware, if you are a childminder then if you care for relatives they are part of your numbers - think about your own children, if under 8 yrs old they get deducted from your allocation.

How come your own children affect how many mindees you can have on your registration certificate then? The NCMA states here "In England, Ofsted will set a number of children you can care for. The maximum is six children under 8 years old, of which usually no more than three may be under the age of 5, and of these, usually no more than one child may be under one year old (although Ofsted may grant an exception, for example, for brothers and sisters). These numbers will include your own children if you have any."

You don't have to be registered for blood relatives but if you're being paid to care for them then surely they count?

Sorrento I also say don't use friends/family for regular childcare - how much would it grate if your children were fed cornflakes for tea every day and how would you tackle the issue with your brother?

IMO it's fab for him to be around but let him stay their favourite uncle who lets them eat wacky things for tea, not their nanny who sometimes has to be the bad guy.

Blondes, becuase her business has failed, shes in rented accom with 4 children, + 2 of a weekend. She and her H have had to get other jobs, lent out by friends to keep them going and so I feel very awful charging her £6 an hour when NMW for my age is £4.77. Plus she pays me petty. I just helping her I suppose. And they also (not that I knew this before I started helping her)that her family are actually distant family friends and we have so much in common, like I used to teach her daughters friends dance and other stuff.

I only earn up to £95 a week and that maybe with petrol or without. If with petrol, It will be a max of £110.

Yes it is tru about childminders not having to count blood relatives in thier numbers. I def know that is true my mom used to be a childminder.