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Help - Nanny pay increase? Yes or No? I need your views!

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LittleOneMum · 02/03/2009 14:48

I have a truly wonderful nanny. She's been with us ten months now and looks after our DS (17 months). I live in central London and pay her £450 a week net. She's my first ever nanny and now it's coming up to the one year stage and I need to decide whether to increase her salary at that time. I'm not currently minded to, for the following reasons:
(1) I pay her for 52 weeks a year but give her ten weeks holiday (all paid) - two of them are her choice
(2) In return for the extra holiday her contract provides that I can ask her to babysit twice a month but I've asked her literally 3 times (and have always paid her extra for this)
(3) She works 8.15 to 5.30pm despite her contracted hours being longer; and
(4) I'm thinking of having another DC at some point in the next 12 months and would obviously put her salary up then and don't want to have to put it up twice

BUT I'm very keen to treat her like gold as she is fab and i don't want to annoy her at all. What should I do? Maybe I should take the babysitting clause out of the contract and agree always to pay her extra?

What is the fair thing to do? That's really what I am asking.

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willowthewispa · 02/03/2009 16:32

I think a payrise is fair, but I wouldn't automatically expect an increase for an additional child. My contract actually covers caring for all future born or adopted children.

lindseyfox · 02/03/2009 16:30

I think she has a fab salary for her hours instead of a payrise could you change her contracted hours to what she is actually doing and in effect she has had a pay rise as its a higher hourly rate?

FannyWaglour · 02/03/2009 16:18

Is 450 standard London nanny pay? I take it you pay her taxes on top, so 450 is net pay? In which case nearly 2 k net salary per month, plus baby sitting, is very generous. The holiday, and the reduced hours are nice perks indeed.

justaphase · 02/03/2009 16:18

I think she has a fantastic deal already, and I am sure she knows it.

I personally would not give her a payrise, but that would just be me being bitter - neither me nor DH got one for 2 years running.

Although I would make sure she knows the reason.

LittleOneMum · 02/03/2009 16:16

We're not getting one as self-employed, but business is affected of course. I am going to do this, i have decided:

(1) Ask her what her expectations and discuss what I had in mind
(2) Discuss the NB situation
(3) then decide. But probably put it up a bit and then more if I am lucky enough to have another DC.

Thanks ladies. Invaluable advice.

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rookiemater · 02/03/2009 16:12

The fact that you don't use her for babysitting as often as contracted and give her 10 weeks holiday are of your choosing not hers.

Therefore I think its proper and right that you should give her a pay rise.

However if and when you do have another DC, which unless you are very lucky and it happens straight away, is unlikely to happen this year, I'm not sure that this in itself would warrant a pay rise. Nannies are contracted and paid for hours, not by number of children as far as I'm aware.

ScummyMummy · 02/03/2009 15:59

Wow- she's appreciated and she gets a great salary. She sounds like she's get a nice job there, LittleOneMum. No real views on whether she should get a pay rise- are you and your partner (if any) getting one? Maybe you could put her salary up by the same proportion?

poppy34 · 02/03/2009 15:51

sorrento as I posted did think the economics differnet of nanny to nursery...

Sorrento · 02/03/2009 15:47

Unfortunately the fact is in a recsession those who keep their jobs end up paying more for everything to cover the losses of the parents who've taken their children out of the nursery due to job loss and to ensure the rising costs of food and bills are still covered without affecting the nursery owners standard of living.

poppy34 · 02/03/2009 15:32

northernlurker - I agree completely that good childcare worth paying for . What I'm more puzzled about is at what point the economic crisis filters down to all levels (incl your nursery alto presumably demand not affected there hence nursery owners need to keep good staff). I can only speak from my own very limited experience but it is definitely true that there are nannies out there looking for work at present as jobs have been lost/hours cut due to fact to fact same has happened to families they are working for. What i'm slightly more bemused about is fact why would pay for nannies not have same thing happen (ie pay freeze/market rate rise) that happens to rest of us?

although this is not very helpful to original poster..

Northernlurker · 02/03/2009 15:13

Just thought about it a bit more and I would definately put it up - I use a nursery and they've just put the fees up. The owner was very apologetic about doing so in the current climate - but she needs to keep the good staff she has and pay is a key way to do that. I don't grudge it because childcare that you are happy with is worth far more than the financial impact of the raise.

woodstock3 · 02/03/2009 15:08

i'd at least change something about the contract if not a payrise - add some kind of perk so she knows you are pleased with her. but if you can afford it would give small rise as you suggest.
i just gave ours a payrise which we cant really afford (i've got a pay freeze this year) but we love her and she's earned it.

LittleOneMum · 02/03/2009 15:01

She doesn't do contracted hours because I tend to come home early. It's my choice. I pay her for babysitting because I know she's saving up for things and I feel bad really. i think you're right though. I should put it up a bit and then if NB comes, I can put it up a bit more. Thanks for your comments. i really appreciate it and would definitely rather err on the side of being too nice rather than being mean.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 02/03/2009 14:54

guess it depends on what the contract says?

does it say annual payrise

10weeks holiday is very nice and very generous

she is on a good salary £90 a day for those hours - why do she do those hours if contracted are longer?

why do you pay extra for bs if the terms of the 10weeks holiday are for 2 bs a month?

i know not every one gets an annual payrise but I always have, as well as an increase in salary when nb comes

Northernlurker · 02/03/2009 14:53

If you want to keep her I think you should put her salary up. Most people expect a yearly cost of living increase at the very least. I think that if you don't put it up she will feel you don't appreciate her and she will go elsewhere.

Why isn't she working her contracted hours - is that yor choice - because if so it's hardly her fault. If you want to increase her salary but reduce her hours to what she actually works I think that would be fair enough - but you will lose the flexibility you presumably currently have.

10 weeks holiday is plenty - but as she can only two weeks at her discretion it's not that much of a plus is it really?

I think the fair thing is to put her wages up so that their value stays the same.

poppy34 · 02/03/2009 14:53

it doesn't sound unfair in circs and in the current economic circumstances (most of the rest of us wont be getting a payrise ) but if you're not giving payrise then some kind of bonus, take babysitting claues out would be sensible.

but I'd talk to your nanny about it - what were your dicussions/her expectations re pay review.

and ten weeks holiday is A LOT.

LittleOneMum · 02/03/2009 14:49

I should say that i've asked her to babysit three times in the whole year..., not each month.

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