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Having a bit of a downer about childminding

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KatyMac · 20/02/2009 22:01

I work very hard
I make very little money

I enjoy it
Going out to work scares me

I love running my own business
I seem to spend my life working towards goalposts that OFSTED have just moved

I can't make it all balance

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nomoreamover · 01/03/2009 08:21

I have sorted all my paperwork out into files - there's just more than 4 of them!!!!

Its a good idea though I think I'll be trying to double up some of them!

PAPERFREEK · 28/02/2009 23:38

omg just found my son's driving licence and his passport. I must have (when I was busy) picked them up and put them into my shredder as I was taking it upstairs. I keep it in my bedroom for safety reasons. I went to shred some papers and I always check in the shredder to see it is not full. There were his licence and passport. I have wasted nearly £60 on a new licence and retest for his theory he missed.

Never mind.

Glad to hear I have cheered nomoreamover and imback up. Once you get all your stuff into the four files it is really easy to keep them up to date. I don't spend much time on paperwork now and I am really enjoying minding again.

imback · 27/02/2009 12:55

i like the four files thing. if i could motivate myself i would spend a day getting all the paper in order. i will get there. jsut need the sun to start warming up its always easier in the summer.

imback · 27/02/2009 12:55

i like the four files thing. if i could motivate myself i would spend a day getting all the paper in order. i will get there. jsut need the sun to start warming up its always easier in the summer.

nomoreamover · 27/02/2009 10:46

SO needed to read this - I have been having major crisis of confidence whether all this is worth it....good to read I'm not the only one - and also good to be reminded about the positives

I like the idea of only working with the parents I like and only the hours I can manage

PAPERFREEK · 27/02/2009 04:30

I am feeling better now. Thank you all for your postings.

My two kids have been wonderful for all the years i have been minding. They have never minded sharing their toys, mum and home with the mindees. In fact at their birthday parties each year, there were more mindees than school friends, their choice.

My hubby understands that I have to do what I think is the best for our kids, and that is to be home when they come in no matter what their age. (Not knocking working mums here - I would have stayed at work but I had a very bad experience with my oldest in a nursery when he was a baby and that is why I became a childminder) Hubby doesn't like me minding, he isn't keen on the house looking like a nursery, but he understands. He helps with cleaning, cooking and putting up shelves EVERYWHERE. I only mention things once and they are done. I happended to mention I wanted a theatre for the kids, (I meant one of those you buy to stick on the table for the kids to use with finger puppets), when I arrived home he had fixed a rail to the beam in the middle of the front room for me to hang 'theatre curtains' from. The kids love it. The curtains come down at night and the rail isn't noticable. Except at first some of my friends were convinced i was up to something kinky, (hanging from the ceiling etc) when they saw the rail.

My 17 year old's friends all come to our house as a preference, probably because I feed them and sort out their personal problems, and I have minded most of them at one time or another.

My paperwork is well sorted. I only have 4
files, (1) Setting records, which contains things like parent contracts, child records, risk assessments, fire drills, complaints log, Mot on car, parent feedback, permission slips such as medical, pets etc. Anything to do with childminding forms. File no 2 is my 'what its like for a child here, this contains evidence of what I do with the kids - pictures mostly, its a general file made up of the best pictures from individual files, I use this to show ofsted and any potential new parents. File no 3 is Welfare requirements - this has my policies and procedures and evidence of how I meet all the welfare requirements. and last but not least is my personal development file which has my past history of courses attended, my certificates, what courses I need or want to do in the future, my cv etc. The only other thing I have then is the kids individual files, accident book, attendance register and accounts book. I only spend half an hour at night keeping these up to date.

I do love my job, and I do get a lot out of it. I think now and again though I get doubts when I think I would do more with my kids if I wasn't minding. You are right though, my sister has 3 kids the same age as mine and she doesnt work at all and she says she forgets things, doesnt see much of them when they are out with their friends or up in their rooms on their pc's. She's never made a pirate ship in the back garden with 10 kids, or dressed up the local climbing frame with material and had all the kids in the neighboroughood joining in. She's never had the network of friends with loads of kids to take out on trips to the seaside or zoo and her kids come to mine if they want to get messy. As a childminder all these things come with the job, and before any parents write in and say they do all these things with their kids even though they are stay at home mums and not childminders, I know a lot of them probably do, I am just comparing myself personally with my sister, who is a stay-at-home mum and doesn't need to because she has my house to do things in.

I love the freedom - I get to go out when I want, do what I want and meet who I want with the kids during the day. I am not going to replace any that leave in the future though as I think mumtobless is right, although I have always looked after quite a few kids at a time, I feel I could do with less now that mine are older, either working less days or finishing earlier. When mine were little and part of the childminding day it didn't matter how many days or hours i worked, now though I would like to spend more time with mine on their own. I rarely work holidays, most of my mums have jobs where they are home in the holidays so that isn't a problem.

By the way my son's replacement licence is on its way and my younger son's friend is still coming round even though I 'starved' him.

Scarfmaker · 26/02/2009 22:55

Paperfreek - don't worry - my eldest is 16 (Year 11) and I still have to be there for him. He has a lot on his plate lately (mock exams, teacher changes, emotional changes etc.) but I still tend to do a lot for him which as a Mum you just accept. A lot of people say "oh he can do this, do that" but I still like to be there for him and his two sisters (10 and 12).

I agree the paperwork is overwhelming and wonder if I am doing it all right but hey ho there's people worse off in the world!

MUM2BLESS · 26/02/2009 21:33

It is important that as a parent and childminder we try to balance things, I know ist not always easy.

One suggestion would be to talk to your own children and ask them how they feel. I also find it helps to talk to my hubby about what happening. It just helps you to see things from another viewpoint.

Try to set some time aside where you do things as a family without the childminded children. Weekends maybe!!!

I must admit that its getting easier as I am understanding things better. I started last September. Never a dull moment with my own four kids and also 3 minded kids, part time!!

Any more suggestions from other childminders

thebody · 25/02/2009 22:43

I have a 17 year old son as well Paperfreek, and a 19 year old and I totally agree with Katy and Willow, and totally act just like you!!!!.

Their rooms are such a bloody mess that I keep all passports and driving licence details in my room for them.. yes I know its wrong and they should stew in their own juice but there you are..

Agree with Willowthewispa, he sounds a sweety, thats boys for you, one hug and 'I love you mum 'from my two 6' 2" menaces and thats enough for me.

Wish you hadnt mentioned wine though as I am trying to be good. lol.
bet he passes first time as well....

willowthewispa · 25/02/2009 20:48

Sounds like you have a lovely son, so you can't be that bad a mum

PAPERFREEK · 25/02/2009 20:37

Son has lots of friends visit his room daily, so I keep his paper work in mine. I remember using the paper part of his licence to ring up to book his theory test and I don't know what I did with it after that. I know at 17 he is old enough to look after his own stuff and yes maybe I should have left well alone and let him get on with it. No you are right, definately, I should be letting him look after his own affairs at 17. God I had left home by that age and got married a year later. I suppose I am having a 'I am a bad mum but a fantastic childminder week'. I just wish he was a mindee, i would have known a week ago that his test was due and would have made sure all the paperwork was up to date and readily available. By the way he was really laid back about it. He just said dont worry it gives me more time to practice.

willowthewispa · 25/02/2009 20:19

Paperfreek, these things happen! You could have forgotten children playing quietly upstairs even if you weren't a childminder.

But a 17 year old's driving licence should really be his problem not yours - why didn't he know where it was? It's his paperwork, so perfectly reasonable that you keep track of YOUR paperwork and he keeps track of his.

KatyMac · 25/02/2009 20:07

Umm Paperfreek how is his license your problem?

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PAPERFREEK · 25/02/2009 19:10

My younger son invited a best friend over for tea tonight and I forgot about them, they were playing good upstairs and i was totally involved with the kids i mind. The mindees were 'played and fed' and i only remembered my son and his friend as his dad arrived to take him home (not best pleased that he hadn't been fed).

My older son should have been taking his theory driving test today, I know where all my observations, assessments, policies, procedures, risk assessments etc are BUT I DIDNT KNOW WHERE MY SON'S PAPER PART OF HIS LICENCE WAS and he COULDN'T TAKE HIS TEST. I am so sorry I let him down.

I am now on my second half of a bottle of wine and feeling human, not 'outstanding' on all counts as Ofsted has graded me on two occasions, HELP!

Illhavethisinsize12 · 25/02/2009 12:47

i am feeling the same. been minding for 8 years. paperwork, no matter what they say, is endless. .....so i dont do it until it is a huge pile and then have to plough through. i dont get the whole obs thing....say im thick, i dont care. i have folders, diaries, posters on walls. its goes on and on. yes, i earn fab money £5.50 per hour and i get paid for 5 weeks holidays a year. but, my kids hate my job i work through most school holidays and they have to amuse themselves....10 and 12, feel constantly guilty about being a bad mum cos im spending all my time being a good cm. and ofsted, well dont even go there....been waiting 4 years for my inspection!! even had the odd nightmare about them.

MUM2BLESS · 24/02/2009 11:59

I started childminding in Sept last year. I must admit that the paper work etc was a lot. It was worth it as I was inspected in Nove and got GOOD.

I have four children of my own and childmind three PART TIME, one of which is over eight. I will choose carefully with the two vacancies I have. Why? my avice to any childminder is dont take on too many children if you feel you cannot manage, even if the money is good. This can cause you to be stressed out, which will mean that you cannot give the best to your own family and to the children you are minding.

Join a good childminding group in your area. This will enable you to talk to other minders as well as the children benefiting from the facilities provided.

Hope that helps!!!

MJ

JenniPenni · 24/02/2009 08:19

With every job there are positives and negatives.

Yes, the paperwork and ever-changing OFSTED goal posts are frustrating and consume much time. After a 10-12 hour work day I then still have all this to do, and mostly do it on wkends. There are courses I go on in my own time, plus I am studying for my DHC. I don't have kids and our home looks like a nursery.

BUT

There is no contest btwn the so called high profile corporate job I had before, and me being a part of my mindees lives, watching them grow and develop. They bring me such joy.

I am fortunate that I am full, but this can change at any time (only this am a parent told me they might lose their job in April...), that is the risk of having your own business.

I am knackered at the end of the day, but it's a GOOD knackered I am my own boss plus I get to spend the day with these incredible little people.

Numberfour · 24/02/2009 06:36

Paperfreek - I loved your post above! Motto in your house is clearly "Do not stand still otherwise you will be observed, risk assessed, monitored, have labels affixed to you, your poos monitored and your hands wash. Be Warned"

vInTaGeVioLeT · 24/02/2009 01:33

i earn £3.20 an hour as i have just one mindee ATM so far this year i have only worked 7 days,
i have had to pay my ofsted yearly fee and my insurance is due next month - i'm keeeping my fingers crossed for more work.

on a positive note -
i love working with pre-schoolers
i like being my own boss
and i've really enjoyed staying at home with my son

so for me the pro's out weigh the con's

KatyMac you sound like a great c/m too me and very professional too.

KatyMac · 23/02/2009 22:35

Spent the evening laminating - so I feel a bit more enthused (ish)

Thanks guys

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thebody · 23/02/2009 18:24

Know how you feel RosieGirl, I feel my dd is a bit peeved sometimes at the amount of time I spend with mindees at her expense, shes 9. I used to counteract this by going into town with her every other sat for a pizza, shop and girly time but with the credit crunch and hubbi not currently working I cant do this.
It is a very invasive job isnt it, keep up the study though, what about a nursery post.

RosieGirl · 23/02/2009 17:19

HSMM - I am at home with my own children too, although they are more and more being told to get on with something because mum is busy and their homework gets left until late at night. (makes me smile when some people worry that childminders look after their children more than mindees) They can't bring their friends home when they want to because it messes with my numbers. I watch the mums of my mindees take a day off but still leave the kids with my so they can have some "me" time - off they go to the gymn, health club, horse riding - god I am so jelous, even if I take a day off (and feel horribly guilty that everyone has to find alternative arrangements) I still have my own children and no childminder to leave them with.

Booh I also took half term off and absolutely loved it, my husband said I was a different person in the evenings. I said I would love to do this job, but not in my own home - which rather defeats the object doesn't it.

Sorry to moan even more guys but I am also feeling rather fed up. I am working towards my NVQ3 in the hope it will open up other opportunities.

SammyK · 23/02/2009 08:16

Katymac - not sure if it would be your cup of tea but how about managing or working in a children's cenre, lots of different roles involved, liaising with children and community, etc. This is what I would do if wasn't going into fostering.

HSMM - I can add negatives toevery one of those positive points, been childminding long enough I think, feel very deflated abut it and a tad jaded.

Booh · 23/02/2009 08:16

I have just been on holiday for a whole week over half term, DH has noticed that I am so much more relaxed when I am not thinking about work.

He is sick of me still working at 10pm every night.........I know that a lot of people say there isn't a lot of paperwork with this job, but there is, about an hour a night.

I have decided that I am going to give two families notice, and just spend less.

HSMM · 23/02/2009 07:48

On the plus side (although I fully agree with all the above comments)

  • I am home when my DD is home
  • I can take her to school and collect her (although I never get a chance to talk to her teachers, or other parents)
  • I don't have to employ a childminder
  • I can occasionally get washing done during the working day (and then observe physical skills as the children tread it into the grass peg it up)
  • I don't have to deal a my boss's hormonal moments
  • I don't have to ask permission for holidays

There must be more ....