New Nanny with lots of questions, please help!!!!

sorry, actually it was more, I had to earn about £1900 which was then taxed, and then I paid her tax and 2 x National Insurance contribs, for her to end up with £880 p/m in her hand.

because it comes out of taxed income, amanda

in order to pay a nanny £880 net a month I had to earn about £1600 to cover her tax and both employer's and employee's national insurance.

Then there was £1200 extra a year for the car insurance, £250 for accountant to deal with her payroll, and food etc when she was at work.

Why do people want to pay so little to the woman who is caring for their children?

Agree with Nick. When I said £7, I meant gross.

And I think 3 kids (even with a cleaner) can still produce a whole lot of household chores. More tidying and organising and running errands, not so much scrubbing and acuuming -- that would be for the cleaner.

Employers normally say what they will pay as you work for them, not yourself.

I think it seems like they are seeing that they can get away with tbh and 3 kids under 5 is a lot.

You can but try. To me £7 net sounds high for first nanny job, £7 gross more possible based on local job ads in your area. You have to start the negotiation somewhere.
Still think it odd that the parents are not telling you what salary they are offering.

£7 sounds fine to me

good luck

I think this family have sussed that you're not too sure about the money...and not sure that's a great thing tbh. In your shoes, I would say that you're doing a bit of research into rates and will be in touch. Just sound really professional, don't let them think you're a soft touch. Just come in with the £7 rate, they aren't going to tell you to go away.

melinda - cant beleive you work for just over min wage esp if you are 32 and have years of exp

£5phnett is far to low

i would see what family suggest and go from there

I don't think you are quoting too low - sorry. For a first Nanny job Nannynick seems quite right. My first position I was working a 60 hour week with 2 children and taking home 200 pounds nett. Even now in Essex I am only on just above minimum wage and am 32 with many years experience! The Nanny wages are so low here and I'm constantly rejected from positions because someone else will undercut my wage requirements. My advice would be too ask them what sort of figure they were thinking of and see if that's acceptable to you. But don't price yourself too high because you could end up with no job at all - unfortunately!

I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I think you are getting low quotes on here for a live-out position. If you were live-in and this was your first job, I would think say £200 a week is in the right ball park. But, the accomodation and board that comes with live-in is worth a whole lot more than some £50 per week.

This is a live-out position, right?

Regarding the number of children, the trade off usually comes in how many other duties you are expected to do rather than the hourly rate. So, if you have three kids to look after, you are going to have less time for cooking. Whereas if you were looking after a baby who sleeps a lot, you be asked to do quite a bit more tidying and cooking (for the baby).

I would put £7 out there and make it clear that you aren't really sure what the going rate is and ask them what they think and say it is negotiable. See how they react. If they say , oh no, we can only pay £6, you can always take that until you have enough experience to go get a higher paid job. If you stay in this job for a year or two, you can definitely move up to better pay then.

As your first nannt job maybe £5 net an hr is suitable for your area and experience. so for a 50 hr week £250 net (so thats what you would take home)

guess depends on how much exp you have

£6gross seems a bit low to me, though canterbury isnt paid as well as my part of kent

its per family and not child, and an hourly rate

what have the family said about money?

Thats just for childminders, the benefit for the family of having a nanny is that they pay one sum no matter how many children the nanny looks after. Def remember to check out any money you discuss and work out gross and nett pay, have been caught out by that many a time!!

NannyJob: Adverts for Live-Out Full Time Nanny, Kent
This ad for a live-out nanny in Horsmonden has good detail level. They are offering £7-£10 gross per hour.
Make sure you understand about Gross and Net pay. Many nanny jobs are still advertised as Net Per Week, whereas your nursery job will be Gross per Month I expect. Also nannies can rarely be self-employed (especially if only working for one family) so you need to check that your new employer knows that they need to operate PAYE (to deduct your Tax and NI, plus pay Employers NI).

The family decides salary, you then negotiate it from there.
As its your first nanny job, I'd say £6 gross per hour upwards, so £300+ gross per week.
Work out what you need to earn, then try to get a little higher.
Also look at job ads to see what local rates are being offered.