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Becoming an au pair (panic panic)

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Kittuurn · 20/12/2008 09:40

I'm considering looking for a family in Germany to be an au pair for, for about 4-6 months next year. I will be 19 by then but have rather limited child care experience. I'm a native English speaker and have lived in Germany before so speak fairly good German. Before I commit myself and actually register with an agency, I want to get some advice. All advice is most welcome (I'm stressing!) especially about what you would expect from an au pair.

  • What sort of responsibilities would you expect an au pair to take over? I'm (obviously) quite happy to look after children, but the thought of taking responsibility for someone else's child for more than a day at a time sounds quite scary! I have basically decided to rule out the families which say things like ''we expect the au pair to be responsible for the children when we have weekends away or business trips etc.'' Is this unreasonable?
  • I've done quite a bit of baby sitting in evenings and (once) for a weekend, and I teach horse riding to under 10's. I have experienced trying to get children to listen to me, but have always had the option of getting help from the parents / my mum. Would you expect an au pair to pass things over to you when things start to go wrong? How much would you expect them to deal with?
  • Is 4-6 months (May and November) too short? I know many people look for 12+ months. Am I being unreasonable to look for a family for this period of time?
Also, what sort of things would you look for in an au pair? (character, child care experience, fluency in the language ...) All advice is most welcome.
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eandz · 23/02/2009 10:54

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cheapskatemum · 19/02/2009 22:43
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BoffinMum · 19/02/2009 20:20

I would have to kiss you on both cheeks, Cheapskate, if you solved the apostrophe crisis.

cheapskatemum · 19/02/2009 18:11

It would have to be a very long toddle, BM, as year 9 are on half term till Monday. Apostrophe scheme of work underway - wouldn't that be good for my credentials: solving the misused apostrophe crisis that's affecting UK undergraduates today? (I would then obviously be over-qualified to comment on the Education board). Ooops! Split infinitive!

Terribly sorry, Kittuurn, we seem to have hijacked your thread.

BoffinMum · 18/02/2009 17:25

Glad you looked into it, Feenie.

TBH I am staying off the education boards as much as possible now, since I fell out with MNHQ about the copyright thing not being particularly reasonable IMO (my other flounce). However it would be wrong if such boards were only populated by 'fake' specialists, though, and would rather undermine MN.

Feenie · 18/02/2009 16:34

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BoffinMum · 18/02/2009 13:39

I have only ever flounced once before (well four times on the same thread because I had to spoil it by coming back adding extra bits). I am a bit of a flounce virgin, tbh. I will try again.

Is that better?

Feenie · 18/02/2009 13:28

It was a very stylish flounce till that bit!

BoffinMum · 18/02/2009 12:55

LOL!

I did wonder about that and nearly looked it up but then thought sod it, why am I even dignifying this with a response. Still hit post though.

Feenie · 18/02/2009 10:30

That would be resplendEnt, BoffinMum!

BoffinMum · 18/02/2009 10:24

Cheapskate, how rude. It's because I can't be bothered to type properly at speed given this is effectively a chat room, and can't be bothered to preview posts, because my PC only tends to wipe them given the opportunity.

I don't think I would have spent ten years working p/t as a sub-editor for glossy international magazines to bump my salary up if my grammar was defective. Nor would I be a published author.

Now toddle off back to year 9, and try to get some of your charges to learn what an apostrophe is, so we don't have to spend years thrashing it into them at university.

letswiggle · 18/02/2009 08:47

I was an aupair once for a summer. Completely innocently spent the summer looking after the kids and wondering why the mother seemed to dislike me so much. About a year later the parents split up and the dad - who I'd always thought was nice, but again in a completely innocent way - came to find me and completely seriously proposed marriage! I was astonished. So the bit about the state of the parents relationship is not entirely stupid.

cheapskatemum · 18/02/2009 08:31

Boffinmum - LOL at your BAP comments and at your grammar: "You sounds like ..." (just in case anyone doubts my credentials as an English teacher ). When I read Melissa's post I wondered about the bit where she suggests checking the state of the parents' relationship. Are we supposed to enact "Love is..." cartoons all day & every day?

Feenie · 17/02/2009 09:38

Will do

SimpleAsABC · 17/02/2009 09:15

Hmm let us know Feenie, sounds odd to me.

BoffinMum · 16/02/2009 23:02

I am a bit slow on the uptake. Is this the same as the Judge Flounce thing? (I missed that - only joined MN recently)

Feenie · 16/02/2009 22:00

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Twims · 16/02/2009 21:57

Saw the post about having twins four years ago and her partner dying. Agree with Feenie about "A troll can be someone who sets themselves up as a professional, gets people to trust them and then disseminates crap advice, imho" and wonder if a thread the other day where someone said how do you tell mumsnet about a troll as they thought someone who stated to be a proffesional wasn't or was giving rubbish advice? After the rev defrocking etc.

Feenie · 16/02/2009 21:29

A troll can be someone who sets themselves up as a professional, gets people to trust them and then disseminates crap advice, imho.

BoffinMum · 16/02/2009 21:08

I thought a troll was someone who set up a thread to provoke fighting? Not someone who was just a crap liar?

QuintessentialShadows · 16/02/2009 21:04

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SimpleAsABC · 16/02/2009 21:03

Ah feenie I see.

Does that mean she is a troll??

BoffinMum · 16/02/2009 19:06

I should also have said something about how we choose APs. We use a grid and tick according to whether an AP has the following:

First Aid Certificate
Can swim
Can cycle
Has done some babysitting
Has done a childcare course (double tick)
Has work experience, eg waitressing or in a shop (double tick)
Interviews well on the phone in our language without it feeling tortuous
Has ideas about activities to do with the children, eg baking and making things
Can stay at least 4 months (double tick for longer than 9 months)
Can prepare a few simple meals, eg pasta
Has helped at home with cleaning and laundry
Sounds friendly and cheerful

We then choose from the ones who are friendliest and have the most ticks.

We organise a letter of invitation beforehand stating duties and rates of pay, and also a contract. We pay overtime if it goes over 30 hours a week. On arrival the AP receives a handbook with information on duties, contact phone numbers and so on.

BoffinMum · 16/02/2009 18:52

I have had more than 20 APs over two decades. You sounds like a very thoughtful person and I am sure you will make a great AP. Good that you're asking advice.

FWIW I think other people have covered much of the same ground as I would have done, but I would add it's important to add that the best APs behave as an adult in the relationship, and not see the thing as a kind of adoption or parent/child thing. I see a lot of really alarming profiles on APWorld that go on and on about 'my new family' and so on, as if APs seriously expect this, and I have certainly had a few young women in their 20s work here who were expecting me to swoop them up and mollycoddle them and look after them, as well as do their duties for them, and ended up being sadly disappointed because I refused to be a surrogate mum on those terms. I also moan about it on MN, btw, because it's depressing and tiring when this happens.

A good host family will always be kind and helpful if you have your handbag stolen, get the flu or lose your boyfriend, but as far as day to day behaviour is concerned, you need to be reasonably independent of spirit and stand on your own two feet a bit.

Essentially you are there to provide a service - usually childcare - and the fact that you get some support with lifts to and from the airport, occasional family meals, the odd tenner slipped to you for a taxi before a big night out, and inclusion in occasional sightseeing trips is the limit of what most families will expect, and what marks it out as an AP relationship and not a domestic staff one. Over time if you get on with the family well they will probably do more for you, for example we have had an entire AP's family over to stay for a week recently (and actually all had a great time).

The best APs use their initiative a lot and try to understand the mindset of the host family, how tired the parents get and so on, and appear magically with sleeves rolled up ready to help take the strain. Good APs say things like "You look tired, have you had a hard day at work? Can I make you a tea?" and "I had fun with the children today. Look at what we made" and "Let me fold that washing. You get your feet up" and "Shall I take the kids down the park so they can burn off some energy?" Rubbish APs say things like "I don't want to collect the children from school because it's raining and I don't have a coat, can't you do it?" and "Sorry, we have used up all the milk making milkshakes, can't you go back out and get some more?" and "When you are at work, your children behave very badly and you need to do something about it because it's nothing to do with me" and "I have broken the hoover again because I was trying to hoover up mashed potato". (These are all RL things various APs have said over the years to me, by the way).

So this is a very long way of saying that the more adult you are, the better it will all go. As far as preparing is concerned, it might be useful to read 1-2-3 Magic by Thomas Phelan, which gives you some insight into how children try to wind people up, and what you can do about it. It might also be good to learn to cook a few simple meals and tackle washing and ironing on a family scale.

Best of luck.

Twims · 16/02/2009 15:13

Oh I forgot to say good luck Kitturn and check out nannyjob where you may find some other nannies/aupairs working in Germany or have had experience who you can talk too.